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  • Shap
    Confirmed User
    • May 2001
    • 8313

    #1

    RedTube No Longer an Affiliate of TwistysCash

    I'm going to do my best to keep this post short. ;)

    Our policy as a company is that we will accept any affiliate who is willing to run an honest business and abide by our rules for sending signups to TwistysCash. This goes for TGPs, Blogs, Review Sites, Pay Sites AND Tube Sites.

    Regarding RedTube: When we agreed to accept RedTube as an affiliate, he indicated he would follow our rules and WAS in the process of working towards becoming a legitimate site. We took his word for it and decided to give him a shot. Then on Friday, in a separate post, it was pointed out to me that Red Tube was breaking some of our rules. I checked it out and it was true - strike one. I contacted RedTube right away and had our Twistys content removed. He was very quick to fix the issues I brought up and asked to re-activate his affiliate links. I told him to wait.

    I spent some time going through RedTube page by page, link by link. I was looking for ANY indication that he was sticking to his earlier promise - ANY attempt to evolve the site towards a cleaner more honest Tube site. But I found nothing. His videos are still 25 minutes long and they still give no credit to the copyright/site holder. Strikes two and three.

    As of Friday afternoon, he has not sent us any traffic. We have decided we will NOT accept any more RedTube traffic until we are convinced he is taking the steps necessary to become a legitimate Tube site. Right now I see no signs of that so he is currently not an active TwistysCash affiliate. He is no longer permitted to use our videos and is not being paid for signups. However, as I mentioned at the beginning of this post, if he DOES take positive steps and demonstrates he is cleaning up his site, we will commence doing business with him again pending another review of RedTube.
  • xclusive
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Apr 2004
    • 35218

    #2
    Thank you for not funding content theft.

    I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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    • IamShaider
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2005
      • 545

      #3
      nice
      $3 banner? That's fucking insane!

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      • ProjectNaked
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2004
        • 4309

        #4
        good move man

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        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
          best designer on GFY
          • Mar 2003
          • 30307

          #5
          I'm with ya Shap

          Dispite ya not liking me much thats irrelevant you do good business

          Cheer's to another 12 pager!
          Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 02-17-2008, 06:49 PM.

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          • Daruma
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2002
            • 3494

            #6
            now if only the other advertisers there (and other tube sites) would take some action in the same direction..

            RIP TD

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            • papill0n
              Unregistered Abuser
              • Oct 2007
              • 15547

              #7
              An EXCELLENT decision Shap. I associate the Twistys name with high quality porn and honest hard work. I know it must be a fucking nightmare dealing with content theft so hopefully RYC is able to help you with that and Twistys can continue to be the excellent program we all know it to be.

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              • media
                Confirmed Moneymaker
                • Apr 2002
                • 9853

                #8
                Interesting turn of events...
                I'm here for the violence!

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                • Penny24Seven
                  So Fucking What
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 6287

                  #9
                  Have you not looked at that site before you approved the account?
                  Our site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and Penny

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                  • will76
                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                    • May 2003
                    • 18037

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hookers and School Girls
                    Have you not looked at that site before you approved the account?
                    lol i guess you missed the other threads.
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                    • Kevsh
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 8619

                      #11
                      Okay, good call. But seriously, what made you think a guy who peddles stolen content would be trustworthy in the first place?

                      And of course, a devil's advocate might suggest:

                      A) The real reason you took the moral high ground was because he wasn't sending you any traffic anyway.

                      B) The people spoke and the bad publicity and feedback was the real reason.

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                      • notoldschool
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 5687

                        #12
                        now all your shits still gonna be on there without you making any money from it. LOL
                        No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                        -- Learned Hand

                        http://www.bjpenn.com

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                        • L-Pink
                          working on my tan
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 39151

                          #13
                          You deserve better than they will ever offer.

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                          • NosMo
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 1025

                            #14
                            Nice move.

                            NosMo

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                            • MandyBlake
                              The one and only!
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 17761

                              #15
                              rock on!!!
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                              • TampaToker
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2006
                                • 5828

                                #16
                                Shap as a anti illegal tube guy im happy to see you pulled there account for wha t ever reason it was. On a side not when you get a moment could you hit me up on icq please 247-742-205 thanks
                                Icq 247-742-205

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                                • Darkhorse
                                  Horsing Around
                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 5881

                                  #17
                                  Well done mate....

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                                  • Zorgman
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 6103

                                    #18
                                    1. Thief steal content from sponsor
                                    2. Sponsor asked theif to remove content
                                    3. Thief contacts sponsor to make a deal
                                    4. Sponsor agrees with specific rules
                                    5. Thief agrees to the rules
                                    6. Thief then brakes the rules
                                    7. Sponsor finds out and drops thief.
                                    8. Community happy!

                                    Media, your right, Awesome turn of events.
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                                    • clicker
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2006
                                      • 1113

                                      #19
                                      If a site becomes popular because of stolen videos, why offer them a chance to clean up there act in the first place?? It is only a short term poor business decision imho. It just faciliates the root of the problem and will cause a long drawn out cluster fuck of more thieves and more free porn.

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                                      • sicone
                                        Retired
                                        • Jan 2004
                                        • 18453

                                        #20
                                        Good Move

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                                        • A.J. Angel
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2007
                                          • 859

                                          #21
                                          Neat move!

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                                          • »Rob Content«
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2006
                                            • 4348

                                            #22
                                            Nice one, great talking with you a few times brother.

                                            You're welcome as well ;)

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                                            • »Rob Content«
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2006
                                              • 4348

                                              #23
                                              Nice one, great talking with you a few times brother.

                                              You're welcome as well ;)

                                              80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
                                              3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
                                              >> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557


                                              ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom

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                                              • Brujah
                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 22157

                                                #24
                                                Nice gesture.

                                                It's just too bad that it really won't matter much except a loss in branding to you and whatever sales you were getting from them. You still deal with Brazzers I assume as a cross sell, which gives them a lot of sales to fund more and more Tube sites with that inevitably brand them instead.

                                                I don't expect you to change that either. I mention it to illustrate that it's a difficult decision that AFF/Brazzers/etc.. put you guys in when they're less selective and run entirely different business models from a revenue stream standpoint than you.

                                                We can safely assume a few things; your videos will continue to show up on these sites, they will continue to be funded by the usual cast of sponsors which enable them to exist in the first place, and that sites like yours will continue to make more money to the ones funding them. A to B to C.

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                                                • »Rob Content«
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                  • 4348

                                                  #25
                                                  Nice one, great talking with you a few times brother.

                                                  You're welcome as well ;)

                                                  80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
                                                  3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
                                                  >> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557


                                                  ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom

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                                                  • Brujah
                                                    Beer Money Baron
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 22157

                                                    #26
                                                    Double post.
                                                    Last edited by Brujah; 02-17-2008, 08:11 PM.

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                                                    • »Rob Content«
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                      • 4348

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Brujah
                                                      Double post.
                                                      I beat you with a triple

                                                      80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
                                                      3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
                                                      >> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557


                                                      ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom

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                                                      • teksonline
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                        • 2904

                                                        #28
                                                        Welcome back to the strong side, I was afraid you forgot who along with your hard work and point to quality made you famous. I like you again now.

                                                        Trust me the affiliate industry is going nowhere

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                                                        • Spunky
                                                          I need a beer
                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                          • 133978

                                                          #29
                                                          Good desicion.they have to start playing by the rules

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                                                          • The Judge
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2006
                                                            • 1647

                                                            #30
                                                            legitimate tube site = dead site

                                                            but he does have Brazzers ads on every page

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                                                            • xxxjay
                                                              Tube groupie.
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 13482

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by The Judge
                                                              legitimate tube site = dead site

                                                              but he does have Brazzers ads on every page
                                                              Here is a legit tube site:
                                                              www.snizzshare.com

                                                              People need to stop fucking with redtube and take their funding away so they will be crushed by their bandwidth bill.

                                                              Oh yeah, my traffic is free, the clips are short, and I offer a ton of other bonuses to those who whose to walk on the legal side.
                                                              http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                              • djroof
                                                                JuicyDevils.gr Owner
                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                • 25504

                                                                #32
                                                                Thanks for the info

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                                                                • Zorgman
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 6103

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Jay, Im glad to see your site is doing so well. More sponsors should hit Jay up and get your stuff together.

                                                                  Good to see so many good sponsors willing to sponsor the legit tube sites.
                                                                  ---

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                                                                  • Iron Fist
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                                    • 23400

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Interesting
                                                                    i like waffles

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                                                                    • Violetta
                                                                      Affiliate
                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                      • 28735

                                                                      #35
                                                                      nice to hear!
                                                                      M&A Queen

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                                                                      • HouseHead
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                        • 5539

                                                                        #36
                                                                        that is insane how much full length shit is on there.. id like to see some porn membership conversion ratios...
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                                                                        • V_RocKs
                                                                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                          • 32451

                                                                          #37
                                                                          You tried and it looks like RedTube just hanged himself and set a precedent for others when it comes to trusting tube sites.

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                                                                          • VeriSexy
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                                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                                            • 25463

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Nice move on your part
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                                                                            • donnylong
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Mar 2007
                                                                              • 2164

                                                                              #39
                                                                              good job too bad everyone does not do the same. Ban those pricks. They are destroying our business

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                                                                              • xxxjay
                                                                                Tube groupie.
                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                • 13482

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Insane Matt
                                                                                that is insane how much full length shit is on there.. id like to see some porn membership conversion ratios...
                                                                                We had pornotube sending us traffic (we didn't even ask for it, they just did it) and it was like 0:60000 when we asked them to take the links off. Pornotube is a lot more legit than redtube too.
                                                                                http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                                • kane
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                  • 20684

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  This thread is one of the reasons I think most of these big tube sites will eventually fail and either go out of business or they will have to change how the site works and start using small clips. They have limited advertising options on them already because it is hard to sell memberships to porn sites when you give away hours of free porn movies every day. Eventually you have to assume these dating and cam sites will starts to stagnate. If people refuse to take their traffic, or their traffic is so crappy it doesn't convert how long can they maintain their current status without losing money?

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                                                                                  • Martin
                                                                                    "Assassins"
                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                    • 17274

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I wish we could come together as a community to clean this business up. GFY has shown the power many times to make big changes happen. We could easily get things back on track and start seeing the paysite ratios return to normal again. We have given the surfer no reason to join paysites thus the reason why illegal Tube sites are so popular and why ratios are at best these days 1-3000.

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                                                                                    • xxxjay
                                                                                      Tube groupie.
                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 13482

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      The best way to deal with the tube sites is to cut all their sources of funding and let them hang themselves with their own bandwidth bill.

                                                                                      The VP of on of the major sponsors tells me that everytime they put out a message on the boards regarding a prepay, it is the tube sites that are the first ones to come running.

                                                                                      Not that this will ever happen, but if the entire industry makes a policy out of not dealing with them, we can win.

                                                                                      It just might be a bit of a mexican standoff!
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                                                                                      • shunga
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                        • 994

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Good move, Shap. If the bad tubes are to become legit there has to be leverage there to make them, and with people like www.removeyourcontent.com on your team you're adding to that leverage.
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                                                                                        • pornguy
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                          • 62910

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Great work Shap, and thanks for stepping up the the plate..
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                                                                                          • xmas13
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                                            • 5176

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Thumbs up.
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                                                                                            • Luscious Media
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                              • 785

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Good news. Too bad Brazzers doesn't have the same ethics.
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                                                                                              • Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                • 7515

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                People you are unbelievable

                                                                                                - Shap got in bed with the thieves
                                                                                                - GFY caught on to this and gave him shit
                                                                                                - Under gfy pressure Shap backs off from the RedTube deal
                                                                                                - GFY gives him props, saying what a stand up guy he is.

                                                                                                Wake up you sheep!

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                                                                                                • CyberHustler
                                                                                                  Masterbaiter
                                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                                  • 28777

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by shunga
                                                                                                  Good move, Shap. If the bad tubes are to become legit there has to be leverage there to make them, and with people like www.removeyourcontent.com on your team you're adding to that leverage.
                                                                                                  Are juggcash and brazbucks really your clients?
                                                                                                  Last edited by CyberHustler; 02-18-2008, 05:57 AM.
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                                                                                                  • Shaze
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                                                    • 2662

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    if only all the other content owners would do the same so these type of tube sites will die off
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