Redtube Offered Us A Deal And We Told Them To Fuck Off!

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  • munki
    Do Fun Shit.
    • Dec 2004
    • 13393

    #101
    100 content theft fuckoffs

    I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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    • xxxjay
      Tube groupie.
      • Aug 2002
      • 13482

      #102
      Originally posted by munki
      100 content theft fuckoffs
      I blogged you guys for snizzshare today:
      http://www.snizzshare.com/blog/index...lls-and-munki/
      http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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      • xclusive
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Apr 2004
        • 35218

        #103
        Originally posted by Mutt
        http://free2.dawsonmiller.com/main.php

        omg it's that super new technology the Flash player!

        idiot
        Fuck, Now that's what I call advanced technology

        I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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        • KrisKross
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2006
          • 5025

          #104
          While I agree with your decision and support it 110%, you're assumption about the conversions is completely wrong.

          Originally posted by xxxjay
          We were sending DMCA notices to Redtube to get our videos taken off. The Redtube guys comes back to make and agree to take the videos down, but then asks us if we'd like to be set up "as a producer" and we would get set links through their affiliate account like a few other programs already have.

          I told them to eat dicks.

          Here's why:

          1. It is unethical to use other people's stonle content to get your ads on more pages.

          2. The traffic is worthless. 1:50000 would be an outstanding conversion, if it even got that good.

          3. We have a good repution we want to keep up in this industry and cutting deals with thieving tube sites is a great way to ruin that.


          Fuck warez and illegal tube sites and the people who support them.

          Jay

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          • nophest
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2002
            • 211

            #105
            Originally posted by xxxjay

            How the fuck do you expect someone to pay for a blacksonblondes or lex steele memebership when you are giving away a 30 minute video for free?
            For the same reasons they join from pics galleries, content is already all there too.

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            • OG LennyT
              Wall Street Pimp
              • Jun 2003
              • 14345

              #106
              good for you
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              • tony299
                lurker
                • Aug 2002
                • 57021

                #107
                Originally posted by nophest
                For the same reasons they join from pics galleries, content is already all there too.
                its not the same please.

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                • Arkantiger
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 257

                  #108
                  goodwork
                  Want to submit your videos and images with a automatic tube software submission program to 1000+ tube sites?
                  $150 for a licence.
                  492-804-072

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                  • nophest
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 211

                    #109
                    Originally posted by xxxjay
                    I hope you are happy now.
                    Do you think I like the situation? I'd be making much more money without tube sites, but I have no choice.

                    Traditional free sites suffer MUCH MORE THAN PAYSITES from this, ok? In the end the best paysites will be making the same money but all free sites IMMEDIATELY make much less.

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                    • Big Red Machine
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 9586

                      #110
                      Jay your turning into a real leader.

                      ICQ:475437214

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                      • alexxx
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 393

                        #111
                        bump...
                        35zero 384 zero93

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                        • nophest
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 211

                          #112
                          Originally posted by tony404
                          its not the same please.
                          Really, tell me what's different please : http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=13783796

                          Do you understand there are persons who like pics and others who like videos.

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                          • tony299
                            lurker
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 57021

                            #113
                            Originally posted by nophest
                            Really, tell me what's different please : http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=13783796

                            Do you understand there are persons who like pics and others who like videos.
                            15 pics and a full scene are not even close to the same thing. One makes one want to join to see more, the other is a call for tissues and lotion.
                            People know this but it makes them feel better about themselves on some level to say tgps are the same thing.When they know as well as everyone else its not.

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                            • nophest
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 211

                              #114
                              I'm wasting my time here

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                              • Axeman
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 5201

                                #115
                                Originally posted by tony404
                                15 pics and a full scene are not even close to the same thing. One makes one want to join to see more, the other is a call for tissues and lotion.
                                People know this but it makes them feel better about themselves on some level to say tgps are the same thing.When they know as well as everyone else its not.
                                Fully agree with this. Which is also why mgp's were effective since they gave about 1 min of action broken up which got them teased good but frustrated them as well. Give someone a 30 min clip and they end up not watching the last 20 min since they already blew their load. Hard to get impulse joins when the explosion has already happened.

                                Of course I do agree the argument for TGPS when they came in was we were starting to give to much free porn away. From 10 to 12 to 15 pics required. Then the demands of the tgp owners to get bigger and crisper photos so they were members area quality. I think it did make a dent in sales and ratios but nowhere to the extent that tube sites offering full movies is making to hurt the industry.
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                                • Axeman
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 5201

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by nophest
                                  I'm wasting my time here
                                  If you were doing it the honest way and running a legit tube site that gave content that still teased and promoted the proper owners site instead of plastering AFF adds and stealing content and being a thief you would be getting a better result from people.
                                  XXXRewards - Karups - Boyfun - Jawked. Paying on time since 1997. Contact me at brent [at] xxxrewards.com

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                                  • bashbug
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 929

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by nophest
                                    I have deleted it.

                                    Seriously what do you expect the 'established' sites owners to do? Sit there and die while new 'tube' sites rack in all the traffic?
                                    A lot of videos you are linking to vidz.com

                                    Jordan Capri, FTV Cash, and Plenty of other sponsors, you are posting their long content and linking to your paysite that you own.

                                    You have gone to the dark side, I guess you are no longer legit.

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                                    • HXMGP
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2005
                                      • 252

                                      #118
                                      Brazzers is advertising on youporn.com now so go figure that out!

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                                      • datatank
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2004
                                        • 5471

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by Mutt
                                        yes a tube script is such complex technology it is beyond the means of most of us.

                                        SOMEBODY PLEASE TEACH ME HOW TO CONVERT WMV AND MPEGS INTO FLV FILES AND MAKE ME A FLASH PLAYER!!!

                                        I think he is reffering more to the cash for the BW.

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                                        • Voodoo
                                          ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 10600

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by nophest
                                          Do you think I like the situation? I'd be making much more money without tube sites, but I have no choice.

                                          Traditional free sites suffer MUCH MORE THAN PAYSITES from this, ok? In the end the best paysites will be making the same money but all free sites IMMEDIATELY make much less.
                                          You have a choice to NOT steal content.

                                          "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

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                                          • Voodoo
                                            ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠
                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 10600

                                            #121
                                            When are these people going to get it? IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW MUCH TRAFFIC YOU HAVE!!!! IT'S ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY YOU MAKE WITH YOUR EXISTING TRAFFIC!!!

                                            Fuck your traffic stats. I'd much rather you send me 20 hits a day with an average daily of 2 joins, over 5000 with 2 joins.

                                            Get the picture?

                                            Filter your fucking traffic! STOP STEALING OUR CONTENT!

                                            "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

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                                            • cem
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2002
                                              • 415

                                              #122
                                              I think jay should get a medal for this.

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                                              • Roald
                                                SecretFriends.com
                                                • May 2001
                                                • 27910

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by tony404
                                                love the aff ad playing before you click to start the video.
                                                Originally posted by Nails
                                                Funny how Jay still supports AFF...

                                                Yet AFF profits more then anyone else on your videos. more then you will ever.
                                                lol selective reading rocks!


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                                                • Roald
                                                  SecretFriends.com
                                                  • May 2001
                                                  • 27910

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by cem
                                                  I think jay should get a medal for this.
                                                  PPPlease, nothing against Jay but as long as he is promoting AFF who supports and pays these guys no one should be getting a medal


                                                  WE ARE BUYING PAY SITES! CONTACT ME



                                                  ClubSweethearts | ManUpFilms | SinfulXXX | HOT * AdultPrime * HOT


                                                  Paying webmasters since 1996! Contact: r.riepen @ sansylgroup.com | telegram: roaldr

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                                                  • Davy
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                    • 4323

                                                    #125
                                                    Congrats, xxxjay!
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                                                    ICQ 14-76-98 <-- I don't use this at all

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                                                    • rockbear
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 806

                                                      #126
                                                      Jay you did the right thing. I just hope that a lot of sponsors will do like you.

                                                      Two thumbs up Jay

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                                                      • figweed
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 90

                                                        #127
                                                        Kudos to you xxxjay!

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                                                        • gleem
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                          • 5593

                                                          #128
                                                          the new biz model will be producers creating exclusive content for tube sites, and using the tube traffic to upsell to personals and live webcams... it's the logical conclusion to the timeline going on here.


                                                          I'm starting on my own 100% exclusive content tube site now before it's too late.. spend a few million on exclusive scenes, $50 on a tube script, and sit back and watch the AFF/Fling sales come rolling in.. bingo!




                                                          Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

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                                                          • gleem
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                            • 5593

                                                            #129
                                                            oh, and for the record.. anyone who's been in the biz as long as me knows all this free content bullshit was started with TGP's, before TGP's surfers paid at least $10 to join an AVS network... and GFY was started for TGPer's so fuck you GFY!




                                                            Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

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                                                            • gleem
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 5593

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by Voodoo
                                                              When are these people going to get it? IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW MUCH TRAFFIC YOU HAVE!!!! IT'S ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY YOU MAKE WITH YOUR EXISTING TRAFFIC!!!

                                                              Fuck your traffic stats. I'd much rather you send me 20 hits a day with an average daily of 2 joins, over 5000 with 2 joins.

                                                              Get the picture?

                                                              Filter your fucking traffic! STOP STEALING OUR CONTENT!

                                                              BINGO! I have a few affiliates that have sites with around 1k uniques daily and they are doing 1 or more sales per day to my site alone.. and I know several that do 100k of traffic to get the same result..




                                                              Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

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                                                              • ultimatebbwdotcom
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2006
                                                                • 591

                                                                #131
                                                                It would help if the surfer got bored to tears looking at the same FHG's and decided that they might have to buy a membership to get some new stuff. Some places seem to have 9 million photo/video galleries and on top of that many tgps archive every link ever sent to them by every program - thats a lot of unnecessarily free product IMO.

                                                                Anyone ever thought of trimming down a a bit on whats given away. Surely shit from 3 years ago doesn't need to be available still.
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                                                                • xxxjay
                                                                  Tube groupie.
                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 13482

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by nophest
                                                                  For the same reasons they join from pics galleries, content is already all there too.
                                                                  So you would take every single pic from a site like met-art.com, post them ALL for free on your site, and still expect that someone would go over to Met-Art and BUY a membership under YOUR refferal code?

                                                                  Bro, you are slicing your own throat? I know you guys aren't stupid. Why can't you see that?
                                                                  http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                  • xxxjay
                                                                    Tube groupie.
                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                    • 13482

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                                    PPPlease, nothing against Jay but as long as he is promoting AFF who supports and pays these guys no one should be getting a medal
                                                                    Dood, like I said, I can't tell Brazzers, AFF, Twistys or anyone else how to run their business. I only know how I run mine.
                                                                    http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                    • seeric
                                                                      ..........
                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                      • 41917

                                                                      #134
                                                                      many situations and outcomes are lose/lose to sponsors.

                                                                      no matter which way you choose to go or what decisions you make there are trapdoors.

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                                                                      • xxxjay
                                                                        Tube groupie.
                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                        • 13482

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                        many situations and outcomes are lose/lose to sponsors.

                                                                        no matter which way you choose to go or what decisions you make there are trapdoors.
                                                                        Considering some other threads on the board. I think this one is back open for discussion.
                                                                        http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                        • Red Ezra
                                                                          redezra.com
                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                          • 4678

                                                                          #136
                                                                          wtg jay u rock

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                                                                          • Luscious Media
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                                            • 785

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by nophest
                                                                            I have deleted it.

                                                                            Seriously what do you expect the 'established' sites owners to do? Sit there and die while new 'tube' sites rack in all the traffic?
                                                                            Wow...just...wow. Rather than lose a little crap traffic to tube sites you join their ranks and steal content. Now we all know EXACTLY what to expect from you. Once a thief always a thief.
                                                                            Luscious Media
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                                                                            • xxxjay
                                                                              Tube groupie.
                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                              • 13482

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by Luscious Media
                                                                              Wow...just...wow. Rather than lose a little crap traffic to tube sites you join their ranks and steal content. Now we all know EXACTLY what to expect from you. Once a thief always a thief.
                                                                              Thanks...ok, now start sending traffic to www.occash.com and www.freshchecks.com and support decent sponsors that don't work with tube sites!
                                                                              http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                              • signupdamnit
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Aug 2007
                                                                                • 6697

                                                                                #139
                                                                                I used to not like you, Jay. That's all changed. Thanks for taking a stand.

                                                                                You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                                • xxxjay
                                                                                  Tube groupie.
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 13482

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                  I used to not like you, Jay. That's all changed. Thanks for taking a stand.
                                                                                  Thanks dood. It wasn't part of a popularity contest. Just doning what is right, even if it costs us a few hundred thousand hits.
                                                                                  http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                                  • xxxjay
                                                                                    Tube groupie.
                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                    • 13482

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    we have a new site out: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=808419
                                                                                    http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                                    • RomaCash
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2007
                                                                                      • 213

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      'illegal tubes suck. sponsor supporting tubes rock.'

                                                                                      99% tube sites use 'illegal' content. They cant control all uploads by users.

                                                                                      'ad supporting biz model' is the only one way for tubes how to keep and running their biz.
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