Redtube Offered Us A Deal And We Told Them To Fuck Off!

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  • minddust
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2005
    • 2438

    #51
    fiddy fuck off redtube

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    • Shoehorn!
      Die With Your Boots On
      • Oct 2003
      • 22872

      #52
      Originally posted by xxxjay
      We were sending DMCA notices to Redtube to get our videos taken off. The Redtube guys comes back to make and agree to take the videos down, but then asks us if we'd like to be set up "as a producer" and we would get set links through their affiliate account like a few other programs already have.

      I told them to eat dicks.

      Here's why:

      1. It is unethical to use other people's stonle content to get your ads on more pages.

      2. The traffic is worthless. 1:50000 would be an outstanding conversion, if it even got that good.

      3. We have a good repution we want to keep up in this industry and cutting deals with thieving tube sites is a great way to ruin that.


      Fuck warez and illegal tube sites and the people who support them.

      Jay

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      • qxm
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2006
        • 5970

        #53
        I endorse this thread and so can you!

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        • xxxjay
          Tube groupie.
          • Aug 2002
          • 13482

          #54
          Originally posted by chompers
          Jay you may want to check out
          http://video.xnxx.com/video11542/Coc...r_Slutty_Holes

          He's got a ton of your videos on there. I know Xnxx is huge. is he an affiliate of yours?
          That sucks...they used to be a legit TGP, now they've turned to the darkside.

          I will speak to them.
          http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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          • tony299
            lurker
            • Aug 2002
            • 57021

            #55
            Originally posted by chompers
            Jay you may want to check out
            http://video.xnxx.com/video11542/Coc...r_Slutty_Holes

            He's got a ton of your videos on there. I know Xnxx is huge. is he an affiliate of yours?
            love the aff ad playing before you click to start the video.

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            • Sysgenix
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2005
              • 287

              #56
              Tube traffic is also heavily seeded with zango users because thats the only way that the sites can make money. Which makes that click to you useless if your site is being propped by someone in zango.
              Ads available on ebony niche site.

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              • GITZINGER
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2006
                • 929

                #57
                Originally posted by chompers
                Jay you may want to check out
                http://video.xnxx.com/video11542/Coc...r_Slutty_Holes

                He's got a ton of your videos on there. I know Xnxx is huge. is he an affiliate of yours?
                WOW, they used to be a good group. I see a ton of stolen shit on there. Time to break out the rolodex.
                Your momma was a ho!!!

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                • Satan
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 1626

                  #58
                  good work J
                  WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?

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                  • Zorgman
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 6103

                    #59
                    Good work Jay. Glad to see the power of the dark side is not so strong after all.
                    ---

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                    • vittle
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 1181

                      #60
                      Thank you!
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                      • Kimo
                        ...
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 11542

                        #61
                        good shit
                        ...

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                        • CDSmith
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • May 2001
                          • 51460

                          #62
                          0:50K? I knew tube sites were overpopulated by freeloaders but damn. Why would any sponsor want to work with that level of shit traffic?


                          Good going Jay. Nice to see that underneath all the fun and games you possess some solid convictions.
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                          • JustDaveXxx
                            I AM JUSTDAVE !
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 4111

                            #63
                            Dude!! stick to your principals!! I will hold them and you punch them!!!


                            REALLY!!


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                            • xxxjay
                              Tube groupie.
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 13482

                              #64
                              Originally posted by CDSmith
                              0:50K? I knew tube sites were overpopulated by freeloaders but damn. Why would any sponsor want to work with that level of shit traffic?


                              Good going Jay. Nice to see that underneath all the fun and games you possess some solid convictions.
                              Yeah, and let me tell you that it also involved turning my back on a TON of traffic. They have a 66 Alexa ranking now.

                              Even if the traffic blew...there still would be a ton of it and it would convert some.

                              Let me dig up the emails.
                              http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                              • seeric
                                ..........
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 41917

                                #65
                                watch as many "legitimate" bands of people in adult go to the dark side man, before it was a lot more hidden and not spoken of, now people like rude.com, pornhub, and the like will just shove a middle finger in your face and tell you to eat a shit biscuit

                                this industry could very well be imploding in a series of business model moves that people do not see are inevitably harmful but chosen because thats what everyone else is doing.

                                Regardless of how "suit and tie" people in this industry pretend to be, deep down this industry wears a renegade mentality which counter enables any unification that we can wish for. Every man for himself is the way its been and the way I see it ending one day. Eventually, either a government agency, or big business or emerging market with a serious plan will pick apart and manipulate our inability to unite and lobby together on any issue. This is the sad truth, and I do believe it.

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                                • will76
                                  Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 18037

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by xxxjay
                                  We were sending DMCA notices to Redtube to get our videos taken off. The Redtube guys comes back to make and agree to take the videos down, but then asks us if we'd like to be set up "as a producer" and we would get set links through their affiliate account like a few other programs already have.

                                  I told them to eat dicks.

                                  Here's why:

                                  1. It is unethical to use other people's stonle content to get your ads on more pages.

                                  2. The traffic is worthless. 1:50000 would be an outstanding conversion, if it even got that good.

                                  3. We have a good repution we want to keep up in this industry and cutting deals with thieving tube sites is a great way to ruin that.


                                  Fuck warez and illegal tube sites and the people who support them.

                                  Jay

                                  redtube must have taken business 101 classes in preschool. Let's see, we will fuck you, fuck you, and fuck you some more. If you keep bugging us to stop fucking you we will eventually stop, but not before asking you if you want to do some business together. WTF although I am not surprised.
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                                  • xxxjay
                                    Tube groupie.
                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 13482

                                    #67
                                    -----Original Message-----
                                    From: RedTube Support [mailto:[email protected]]
                                    Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 7:03 AM
                                    To: 'Sir Jason "The Dreaded Chief Slap-a-Ho" Quinlan III Esq. JR aka "Scooter"'
                                    Subject: RE: [RT][Report Illegal Video] we are copyright owners please remove...
                                    Hi Jay!

                                    We are improving two things:

                                    First one is to build up a black list to avoid to publish copyright
                                    protected material without allowance.
                                    Second one is to build up cooperations like we do with Twistys.com where we
                                    put permanent assigned banners next to the videos using there affiliate
                                    codes.

                                    Cheers,
                                    Mike

                                    >>>>>>> RESPONSE <<<<<<<<<<<<<

                                    HELL FUCKING NO!

                                    -----Original Message-----
                                    From: Sir Jason "The Dreaded Chief Slap-a-Ho" Quinlan III Esq. JR aka "Scooter" [mailto:[email protected]]
                                    Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 2:11 AM
                                    To: 'RedTube Support'
                                    Subject: RE: [RT][Report Illegal Video] we are copyright owners please remove...

                                    Redtube!
                                    http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                    • seeric
                                      ..........
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 41917

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by xxxjay
                                      -----Original Message-----
                                      From: RedTube Support [mailto:[email protected]]
                                      Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 7:03 AM
                                      To: 'Sir Jason "The Dreaded Chief Slap-a-Ho" Quinlan III Esq. JR aka "Scooter"'
                                      Subject: RE: [RT][Report Illegal Video] we are copyright owners please remove...
                                      Hi Jay!

                                      We are improving two things:

                                      First one is to build up a black list to avoid to publish copyright
                                      protected material without allowance.
                                      Second one is to build up cooperations like we do with Twistys.com where we
                                      put permanent assigned banners next to the videos using there affiliate
                                      codes.

                                      Cheers,
                                      Mike

                                      >>>>>>> RESPONSE <<<<<<<<<<<<<

                                      HELL FUCKING NO!

                                      -----Original Message-----
                                      From: Sir Jason "The Dreaded Chief Slap-a-Ho" Quinlan III Esq. JR aka "Scooter" [mailto:[email protected]]
                                      Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 2:11 AM
                                      To: 'RedTube Support'
                                      Subject: RE: [RT][Report Illegal Video] we are copyright owners please remove...

                                      Redtube!
                                      lollllllllllllllllllllll


                                      love how they name drop twistys like it should mean something to you and sway your opinion.

                                      "look at us, we got twistys, one of the industries big boys to say its ok with them, look they're working with us"

                                      lol

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                                      • Nails
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2007
                                        • 262

                                        #69
                                        Funny how Jay still supports AFF...

                                        Yet AFF profits more then anyone else on your videos. more then you will ever.

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                                        • Phil
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2004
                                          • 7659

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by A1R3K
                                          yup.

                                          the only good tube traffic i've got so far is snizzshare.com traffic.

                                          the rest of it is worse than skim crappy tgp traffic.
                                          kiss ass
                                          Ask Phil

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                                          • avrevenue
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2004
                                            • 1904

                                            #71
                                            Nice move Jay
                                            AV Revenue High Quality Sites to Promote
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                                            • lbc213
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2006
                                              • 2673

                                              #72
                                              Good going jay!

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                                              • flashfire
                                                ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 13098

                                                #73
                                                In all honestly I have bought ads on tube sites in the past before I "saw the light" and my conversions were pretty decent. Under 1:1000...just saying

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                                                • DjiXas
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Sep 2007
                                                  • 1108

                                                  #74
                                                  Don't want to go into your business, but why don't you try that for at least a week? Maybe conversions are better than you thought? If no, then tell them to FUCK OFF, at least you will know "the truth" about ratios. If yes, you owe me something :-)

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                                                  • Ross
                                                    Ik ben een aap
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 18874

                                                    #75
                                                    Kudos to you Jay for standing up for this business. I'll be sending some extra traffic your way.

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                                                    • viencarl
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2007
                                                      • 4234

                                                      #76
                                                      Jay you rock

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                                                      • bobby666
                                                        boots are my religion
                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                        • 21765

                                                        #77
                                                        great answer

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                                                        • cranki
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 5162

                                                          #78
                                                          twistys really has an agreement with them?

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                                                          • cosis
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                            • 5292

                                                            #79
                                                            bravo jay - wish more sponsors would do that

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                                                            • Mutt
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                              • 34431

                                                              #80
                                                              Jay you're going to paint yourself into a corner if you don't want to be a complete hypocrite - there's going to be very few sponsors left who aren't one degree seperated from this shit and your program will feel the pain.

                                                              sad but true.
                                                              I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                              • Dennis69
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                • 1685

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by cranki
                                                                twistys really has an agreement with them?

                                                                That would be interesting to know for sure?
                                                                HaHaHa

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                                                                • Why
                                                                  MFBA
                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 7230

                                                                  #82
                                                                  i just think its fucked that these people build huge websites using stolen content. then once they can afford to buy it(or get caught stealing) then all of a sudden they try to make it right.

                                                                  the way i see it is this... you built a company using MY stolen content, where are my shares in your company? until these asshats start sharing the money they made by stealing our content, they should get no love from us.

                                                                  only the ones that started out legit and always remained that way are worth a damn in my opinion.

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                                                                  • Iron Fist
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                                    • 23400

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Why
                                                                    i just think its fucked that these people build huge websites using stolen content. then once they can afford to buy it(or get caught stealing) then all of a sudden they try to make it right.

                                                                    the way i see it is this... you built a company using MY stolen content, where are my shares in your company? until these asshats start sharing the money they made by stealing our content, they should get no love from us.

                                                                    only the ones that started out legit and always remained that way are worth a damn in my opinion.
                                                                    Kinda the same thing as "It's not illegal until you get caught...."
                                                                    i like waffles

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                                                                    • Mutt
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 34431

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Why
                                                                      i just think its fucked that these people build huge websites using stolen content. then once they can afford to buy it(or get caught stealing) then all of a sudden they try to make it right.

                                                                      the way i see it is this... you built a company using MY stolen content, where are my shares in your company? until these asshats start sharing the money they made by stealing our content, they should get no love from us.

                                                                      only the ones that started out legit and always remained that way are worth a damn in my opinion.
                                                                      exactly.

                                                                      it's easy to go legit and be a 'top notch guy' once you've made yourself rich stealing from others.

                                                                      i can think of many who've followed this formula.
                                                                      I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                                      • seeric
                                                                        ..........
                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                        • 41917

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                        exactly.

                                                                        it's easy to go legit and be a 'top notch guy' once you've made yourself rich stealing from others.

                                                                        i can think of many who've followed this formula.
                                                                        the adult internet was conceived and built on stolen content. why would anyone think that its evolution into new models would be any different than the way it was birthed?

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                                                                        • seeric
                                                                          ..........
                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                          • 41917

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by CAMOKAT
                                                                          kiss ass
                                                                          eat a bag of dicks.

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                                                                          • xxxjay
                                                                            Tube groupie.
                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 13482

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                            Jay you're going to paint yourself into a corner if you don't want to be a complete hypocrite - there's going to be very few sponsors left who aren't one degree seperated from this shit and your program will feel the pain.

                                                                            sad but true.
                                                                            Hypocrite...fuck that.

                                                                            What you are saying is exactly right: There is almost no way to be completely separated from it.

                                                                            Almost everyone on this boards does some kind of business with somebody that does something on Redtube.

                                                                            I can't talk Joe Blow x, y, and z how to run their business. If they want to take advantage of the massive branding power for sites with 100 or better Alexa rankings and shit on the rest of the industry, that is their perogitive.

                                                                            All I can do is choose to not be one of those guys.

                                                                            What comes around goes around and it will bite them in the ass in the end.

                                                                            Jay
                                                                            http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                            • OzMan
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                                              • 9162

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by xxxjay

                                                                              There is almost no way to be completely separated from it.

                                                                              Almost everyone on this boards does some kind of business with somebody that does something on Redtube...
                                                                              Agreed and this was my whole point on the zango and torrents issues and applies equally here.

                                                                              After the kudos die down you will still be getting crap from all the "holier than thou's" (half of whom don't have traffic or would and do use any unethical traffic source in private) as well as those few individuals who still believe that we could all get together and stop this, for your one degree of separation from the "bad guys"

                                                                              Look at all the crap Shap is getting for trying to monetize his own content. His ads only appear on his own video's pages not on other people's stolen content pages but he is being burned at the stake last time I looked in that thread.

                                                                              So according to the mob, his one degree of separation is not ok but yours is?

                                                                              You will be slammed either way whether you allow your content and ads on there to try to monetize it or you decide to "just say no" and prefer to send out C&D's all day while still supporting those sponsors who do advertise on there directly or indirectly.

                                                                              Time will tell who's decision is the wiser one. From past experience, I think it's better to just not say anything and do what you feel is the best decision but props to both you and Shap for taking a position and being willing to defend it from any criticism, legitimate or otherwise.

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                                                                              • Miguel T
                                                                                ♦ Web Developer ♦
                                                                                • May 2005
                                                                                • 12470

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Good choise!

                                                                                Full Stack Webdeveloper: HTML5/CSS3, jQuery, AJAX, ElevatedX, NATS, MechBunny, Wordpress

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                                                                                • nophest
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 211

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                                                  That sucks...they used to be a legit TGP, now they've turned to the darkside.

                                                                                  I will speak to them.
                                                                                  I have deleted it.

                                                                                  Seriously what do you expect the 'established' sites owners to do? Sit there and die while new 'tube' sites rack in all the traffic?

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                                                                                  • nico-t
                                                                                    emperor of my world
                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                    • 29901

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    all good and well but 1:50000 is obviously a made up number to exagerate it a bit. Like you say when you have to wait 10 minutes at a drive thru window but say out of frustration 'i been waiting here for hours!'

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                                                                                    • nophest
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 211

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by nico-t
                                                                                      all good and well but 1:50000 is obviously a made up number to exagerate it a bit. Like you say when you have to wait 10 minutes at a drive thru window but say out of frustration 'i been waiting here for hours!'
                                                                                      WORSE I have seen off tube pages is 1/5000.

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                                                                                      • xclusive
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Apr 2004
                                                                                        • 35218

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by nophest
                                                                                        I have deleted it.

                                                                                        Seriously what do you expect the 'established' sites owners to do? Sit there and die while new 'tube' sites rack in all the traffic?
                                                                                        Congrats on becoming a scumbag.

                                                                                        I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                                                                                        • nophest
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                          • 211

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by xclusive
                                                                                          Congrats on becoming a scumbag.
                                                                                          Give me a break, everyone who doesn't have a tube yet yet is not because they are good guys (like you huh?) it's because they CAN'T.

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                                                                                          • xclusive
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                                                            • 35218

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by nophest
                                                                                            Give me a break, everyone who doesn't have a tube yet yet is not because they are good guys (like you huh?) it's because they CAN'T.
                                                                                            I'm actually working on a legit tube site sort of along the TEVS system. http://www.bigdotmedia.com/ i'll be using sponsor supplied content. Sorry, I'm not willing to be a thief. If i wanted to be a scumbag I could have a shittube site up within a day. I might be a small minority but I still have morals and don't do shady shit.

                                                                                            I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                                                                                            • Mutt
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                              • 34431

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by nophest
                                                                                              Give me a break, everyone who doesn't have a tube yet yet is not because they are good guys (like you huh?) it's because they CAN'T.
                                                                                              yes a tube script is such complex technology it is beyond the means of most of us.

                                                                                              SOMEBODY PLEASE TEACH ME HOW TO CONVERT WMV AND MPEGS INTO FLV FILES AND MAKE ME A FLASH PLAYER!!!
                                                                                              I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                                                              • nophest
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 211

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                yes a tube script is such complex technology it is beyond the means of most of us.

                                                                                                SOMEBODY PLEASE TEACH ME HOW TO CONVERT WMV AND MPEGS INTO FLV FILES AND MAKE ME A FLASH PLAYER!!!
                                                                                                Apparently it's still too complicated for you to setup because you give a wmv trailer when top sites already embed flash : http://www.dawsondollars.com/site.php

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                                                                                                • OzMan
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                                  • 9162

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by nophest
                                                                                                  Apparently it's still too complicated for you to setup because you give a wmv trailer when top sites already embed flash : http://www.dawsondollars.com/site.php
                                                                                                  yup I get prompted for a 19 meg 40 second download in FF to view the trailer

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                                                                                                  • xxxjay
                                                                                                    Tube groupie.
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 13482

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by nophest
                                                                                                    WORSE I have seen off tube pages is 1/5000.
                                                                                                    Dood...

                                                                                                    http://video.xnxx.com/video7803/Blac...%2C_lex_Steele

                                                                                                    How the fuck do you expect someone to pay for a blacksonblondes or lex steele memebership when you are giving away a 30 minute video for free? The only thing you can sell on a tube site is interactivity, because you have completely devalued adult content on the web by giving the whole kit-and-kaboodle away!

                                                                                                    I have a question: Did you BUY all of that content? Do you have RIGHTS to it to generate more page views for AFF?

                                                                                                    You are a fucking theif!

                                                                                                    All of these retards trying to sling tube traffic should have their heads chopped off!

                                                                                                    If you absolutely want to, you can run a legal tube site where the conetent owners upload their content at their discression like I do with www.snizzshare.com - of course, I've had a lot more trouble generating traffic because there are barely any clips over 2 minutes on it, but the point is, you can still have a tube site and do it right!

                                                                                                    A few points:

                                                                                                    1. The DVD market is all but dead.

                                                                                                    2. All of the porn that was once in members areas is out there for free.

                                                                                                    3. It costs a decent amout of money to shoot porn (trust me, I know) and if the consumers mentality is that "all porn is free and only idiots pay" then all will be left is a bunch of big tube sites with huge bandwidth bills, no new content being produced because all of the content house have shut down, and a bunch of stupid muther fucking guys flapping their dicks to fake profiles on AFF.

                                                                                                    I hope you are happy now.



                                                                                                    I stand at the 1:50000 ratio sending to any paysite, VOD, or Videobox style site...WHY THE FUCK WILL PEOPLE PAY FOR CONTENT THEY'VE ALREADY SEEN!

                                                                                                    Idiots, fucking idiots!
                                                                                                    http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                                                    • Mutt
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                      • 34431

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by nophest
                                                                                                      Apparently it's still too complicated for you to setup because you give a wmv trailer when top sites already embed flash : http://www.dawsondollars.com/site.php

                                                                                                      http://free2.dawsonmiller.com/main.php

                                                                                                      omg it's that super new technology the Flash player!

                                                                                                      idiot
                                                                                                      I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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