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  • BucksMania
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2005
    • 3758

    #1

    NoCreditCard against PasswordByPhone???

    If you have tried both, which one converted better?
  • Theo
    HAL 9000
    • May 2001
    • 34515

    #2
    from the title i thought NCC sued PBP lol

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    • DaddyHalbucks
      A freakin' legend!
      • Feb 2004
      • 18975

      #3
      I think they both are tough to convert, but that may be due to the tricky nature of foreign traffic.
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      • DaddyHalbucks
        A freakin' legend!
        • Feb 2004
        • 18975

        #4
        But, of the two companies, PBP impresses me more.
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        • Bryan G
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2005
          • 8338

          #5
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          • BoardiesBitch
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2006
            • 861

            #6
            I know much better NCC's product than PBP's.
            And what is for sure is that NCC has way more options to convert your international traffic than PBP :

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            Up to $16 per phone call over 240 countries
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            Combination of Phone Access, One shot phone calls, SMS for your own content
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            Combination of Phone Access, One shot phone calls, SMS with adult content fully integrated
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            • JenniDahling
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              • Jul 2005
              • 5285

              #7
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              • BoardiesBitch
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2006
                • 861

                #8
                also being currently in Spain, i get an error on all PBP sales page :

                template parser error (ref: w3)
                - no country or ip

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                maybe it's just for spanish traffic though, would like to have some feedback from people in other countries
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                • PR_EZEKIEL
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 134

                  #9
                  Both great programs, we've been using PBP for a long time, and we're currently working with NCC to work them into our system. I look forward to long relationships with both companies.
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                  • Klen
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 32234

                    #10
                    Pbp works fine if you ask me

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                    • viki
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 2640

                      #11
                      We use NCC and we're happy with them... haven't setup PBP yet though.

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                      • flashfire
                        ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 13098

                        #12
                        I have only used PBP but they are pretty good

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                        • camchoice
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 1267

                          #13
                          we use www.pay123.com for our affiliate program cams4us.com it works SUPER..
                          our creditcard and phonebilling income are equal now.
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                          • justsexxx
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Aug 2001
                            • 13723

                            #14
                            Tried both. NCC works better for us, since they offer per minute billing. PBP is a nice idea, but we notcied many ppl hang up...Because they forst have to be like 5 minutes on the phone, and then get their password
                            Questions?

                            ICQ: 125184542

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                            • BucksMania
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 3758

                              #15
                              Originally posted by camchoice
                              we use www.pay123.com for our affiliate program cams4us.com it works SUPER..
                              our creditcard and phonebilling income are equal now.
                              what was your phonebilling % before that?

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                              • BOSS1
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 4331

                                #16
                                Does anybody use GSX Bill ?

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                                • camchoice
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2003
                                  • 1267

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BucksMania
                                  what was your phonebilling % before that?
                                  well we had a lot of european traffic but couldn't convert it.. so we searched for a solution. after that we were able to convert the european traffic.
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                                  • camchoice
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2003
                                    • 1267

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by justsexxx
                                    Tried both. NCC works better for us, since they offer per minute billing. PBP is a nice idea, but we notcied many ppl hang up...Because they forst have to be like 5 minutes on the phone, and then get their password
                                    yep you are right about PBP it takes too long. but for that we got now www.pay123.com it has the best payouts per minute for europe.
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                                    • JimmiDean
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2004
                                      • 3433

                                      #19
                                      Great thread, I would like to add one of those two also
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                                      • emjay
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2004
                                        • 4280

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by JimmiDean
                                        Great thread, I would like to add one of those two also
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                                        • B2BwithJoeD
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2004
                                          • 1390

                                          #21
                                          Both are good options for traffic that cannot be converted with credit card or real direct debit
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                                          • Nocreditcard
                                            Registered User
                                            • Dec 2007
                                            • 20

                                            #22
                                            Hi

                                            Feel Free to contact us to know more about coolaccess.com, our world wide password delivery solution.

                                            Basically, our main benefits regarding the competition are :

                                            => No Idle holding time : Less users hang up before getting the password.

                                            => The pin code is generated immediately, and our customers are paid from the first second (You make money even if the user hangs up before he gets his access, which in some countries represent up to 20% of the calls)

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                                            The Nocreditcard Team
                                            Your alternative billing provider since 1996.

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                                            • polle54
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2004
                                              • 4626

                                              #23
                                              Emjay and PasswordByPhone rocks
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                                              • emjay
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2004
                                                • 4280

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by polle54
                                                Emjay and PasswordByPhone rocks
                                                Thanks polle54
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                                                • slavdogg
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 3570

                                                  #25
                                                  who offers the best or the easiest for set up ?
                                                  we have a lot of foreign traffic going to waste right now

                                                  i'd like to hear more of who has what to offer
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                                                  • Pics Traffic
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                    • 3055

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BOSS1
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                                                    yes and no.
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                                                    • emjay
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                      • 4280

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by slavdogg
                                                      who offers the best or the easiest for set up ?
                                                      we have a lot of foreign traffic going to waste right now

                                                      i'd like to hear more of who has what to offer
                                                      Hey Slavdogg, we can have you up-and-running within 24hours, process is as follows:
                                                      1. Sign up
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                                                      3. You advise us of the location of that script and we then complete the set up for you
                                                      4. You're done

                                                      Please note that we can also create international versions of your sites and supply you with a redirect script so that you send sufers from Russia, India, China & Co straight to it...
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                                                      • Damian_Maxcash
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 12745

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by emjay
                                                        Hey Slavdogg, we can have you up-and-running within 24hours, process is as follows:
                                                        1. Sign up
                                                        2. We send you a small script that needs to be placed on your server
                                                        3. You advise us of the location of that script and we then complete the set up for you
                                                        4. You're done

                                                        Please note that we can also create international versions of your sites and supply you with a redirect script so that you send sufers from Russia, India, China & Co straight to it...
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                                                        • Nocreditcard
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Dec 2007
                                                          • 20

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by slavdogg
                                                          who offers the best or the easiest for set up ?
                                                          we have a lot of foreign traffic going to waste right now

                                                          i'd like to hear more of who has what to offer
                                                          Hi

                                                          We can setup a test of our payperaccess CoolAccess.com solution on your international traffic, with our private area, in 15 minutes. You will see immediately how much money you can make.

                                                          A complete Nats integration will take 1 hour.

                                                          But be careful, it's not only a setup issue.

                                                          CoolAccess gives access to your (or our) member's area while the user is calling : There's no Idle time, so more passwords delivered.

                                                          Even if the user hangs up before the end of the call, so before to get his password, we pay you on each minute of the call, from the first second.

                                                          Feel free to hit me on icq (211956332) for further details.

                                                          Cheers

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                                                          • JamesK
                                                            hi
                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                            • 16731

                                                            #30
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                                                            • quantum-x
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                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                              • 6863

                                                              #31
                                                              Ask who pays on incompletes ;)
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                                                              • quantum-x
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                • 6863

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Nocreditcard
                                                                Hi

                                                                Even if the user hangs up before the end of the call, so before to get his password, we pay you on each minute of the call, from the first second.
                                                                And that's the difference right there folks.
                                                                Discussion over ;)
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                                                                • traffic_buy
                                                                  Registered User
                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                  • 95

                                                                  #33
                                                                  We're providing our dialer platform for U if you just wanna convert your traffic.
                                                                  It's also no idle holding for pass, but immediate access!!!

                                                                  No payment holds, we do factoring (bi-weekly) for PRN as well as for IRN.
                                                                  Hit me up for further info if you're getting interested.
                                                                  Last edited by traffic_buy; 02-08-2008, 02:26 AM. Reason: typos
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                                                                  • MaDalton
                                                                    I am Amazing Content!
                                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                                    • 39861

                                                                    #34
                                                                    does any of the solutions do not fuck the surfer?

                                                                    everyone please raise a hand that used dialers in the past to get as much money as possible out of the people - not caring about any consequences

                                                                    and don't make me dig out all the old articles
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                                                                    • BoardiesBitch
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                                                                      • Mar 2006
                                                                      • 861

                                                                      #35
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                                                                      • quantum-x
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                        • 6863

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                        does any of the solutions do not fuck the surfer?

                                                                        everyone please raise a hand that used dialers in the past to get as much money as possible out of the people - not caring about any consequences

                                                                        and don't make me dig out all the old articles
                                                                        These aren't dialers.
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                                                                        • slavdogg
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 3570

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                          does any of the solutions do not fuck the surfer?
                                                                          if any of the solutions do a real good job of fucking the surfer
                                                                          please stand up now so we could add your solution asap.
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                                                                          • MaDalton
                                                                            I am Amazing Content!
                                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                                            • 39861

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by quantum-x
                                                                            These aren't dialers.
                                                                            but some companies have a "history"
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                                                                            • quantum-x
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                              • 6863

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                              but some companies have a "history"
                                                                              If this was 1995, you'd be rubbing your hands together over dialer cash
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                                                                              • Nocreditcard
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Dec 2007
                                                                                • 20

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by quantum-x
                                                                                And that's the difference right there folks.
                                                                                Discussion over ;)
                                                                                Thanks to point this out ;)

                                                                                But it's not the only big difference :

                                                                                With Cool Access, the user can browse your private area while he's calling. He's not only waiting passively for his password.

                                                                                You will get much more complete calls on this way.
                                                                                Your alternative billing provider since 1996.

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                                                                                • emjay
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                                  • 4280

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  PbP was originally developed with the "buy time" business model since this way webmasters could bill ALL surfers, not just those who have broadband or two phone lines which solutions like coolaccess require.

                                                                                  PbP 2.0 will redress this issue and offer PPM billing, together with a raft of innovative non-compete global tools and upsells to help webmasters make more international money

                                                                                  Watch this space!
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                                                                                  • quantum-x
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                    • 6863

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by emjay
                                                                                    PbP was originally developed with the "buy time" business model since this way webmasters could bill ALL surfers, not just those who have broadband or two phone lines which solutions like coolaccess require.

                                                                                    PbP 2.0 will redress this issue and offer PPM billing, together with a raft of innovative non-compete global tools and upsells to help webmasters make more international money

                                                                                    Watch this space!
                                                                                    But will it pay on dropped calls? Last time I checked over PBP's charge rates and payouts, the only way to cut a profit was from dropped calls. IIRC [and I do admit, it has been a while] - that I could call 5:59 of a 6 minute call, and it'd magically not appear in stats.
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                                                                                    • emjay
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                      • 4280

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by quantum-x
                                                                                      But will it pay on dropped calls? Last time I checked over PBP's charge rates and payouts, the only way to cut a profit was from dropped calls. IIRC [and I do admit, it has been a while] - that I could call 5:59 of a 6 minute call, and it'd magically not appear in stats.
                                                                                      Hi quantum-x, yes it will
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                                                                                      • Due
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                                                        • 3620

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by slavdogg
                                                                                        who offers the best or the easiest for set up ?
                                                                                        we have a lot of foreign traffic going to waste right now

                                                                                        i'd like to hear more of who has what to offer
                                                                                        To get running with us you need to:
                                                                                        1: Signup using our form
                                                                                        2: Configure your pricing using our "set your own pricing system", screenshots available here: http://www.global-acces.com/?page=ticket
                                                                                        3: Upload a script where you modified 4 lines to your own value
                                                                                        4: Put a linking code on the desired pages where you wish to use our billing options.
                                                                                        5: If done before sunday the 17th you will get your first payment on monday the 18th as long as you made minimum $25 (fast payments, even for small amounts)
                                                                                        You decide yourself if you wish to provide instant access, or if users should be forced to stay on the phone for X minutes before getting access, regardless of what options you choose you are paid for calls of all durations even it the user quit the billing event before gaining access to your site
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