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  • Robbie
    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
    • Aug 2002
    • 20960

    #16
    Originally posted by SAC
    Robbie open your eyes! RED STATE parasites are the biggest FREELOADERS in Amerika!
    Open YOUR eyes.

    I just showed you the real stats. There are no "freeloaders".

    Federal money isn't going back to states to help the poor people who live in them.

    It is money being funneled back to defense contractors and other cronies of crooked Congressmen and Senators.

    You guys are blinded and the perfect people for the govt. to continue milking like a cow.
    -Robbie
    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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    • tony286
      lurker
      • Aug 2002
      • 57021

      #17
      Originally posted by Robbie
      Those stats took me 10 seconds to google up. And they are 100% FACT.

      Show me that they are wrong. You can't.

      That b.s. from Mother Jones...saying that New Mexico is a problem? That's just twisting stats.

      They only have 2 million people. Mostly Native American and hispanics. And Mother Jones says they are a big "welfare state" getting 2.63 dollars for every dollar that their citizens pay in taxes.

      So New Mexico...the giant horrible welfare state gets a total of 5.26 million dollars a year from the federal govt.


      Yeah, carry on with that stupid political bullshit.
      here you go us news ans world report.
      http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...h-their-taxes-

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      • L-Pink
        working on my tan
        • Mar 2005
        • 39151

        #18
        "federal funding per tax dollar paid" …..Per tax dollar paid by whom? Corporate taxes included in those numbers? If so that pretty much explains the list.

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        • Fat Panda
          Porn is Dead. Move along.
          • Aug 2006
          • 13296

          #19
          its a FACT! red state parasite socialist leeches are WORTHLESS anti-American hypocrites!

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          • crockett
            in a van by the river
            • May 2003
            • 76818

            #20
            Originally posted by Robbie
            Those stats took me 10 seconds to google up. And they are 100% FACT.

            Show me that they are wrong. You can't.

            That b.s. from Mother Jones...saying that New Mexico is a problem? That's just twisting stats.

            They only have 2 million people. Mostly Native American and hispanics. And Mother Jones says they are a big "welfare state" getting 2.63 dollars for every dollar that their citizens pay in taxes.

            So New Mexico...the giant horrible welfare state gets a total of 5.26 million dollars a year from the federal govt.


            Yeah, carry on with that stupid political bullshit.

            The stats are based on what each state pays vs what they get back from the federal govt.

            New York Obviously pays more in federal taxes each year compared to New Mexico.. Obviously New York will get back more money.

            Seriously is that hard to comprehend? Are you saying that it's ok for states to get back more than what they paid? If so why bitch about welfare moms? It's the exact same so why is it ok on the State level but not on the individual level?

            Welfare states are negative income states on federal tax dollars. Those extra dollars that are returned to them have to come from somewhere. That somewhere is from the pockets of the states that pay more than they get back.

            It's simple math Robbie, why is that so hard to understand?

            The Right always bitches about welfare yet they can't even pay their own way on the state level. The bulk of red states aren't paying their own way.
            Last edited by crockett; 05-21-2013, 10:58 AM.
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            • L-Pink
              working on my tan
              • Mar 2005
              • 39151

              #21
              Originally posted by L-Pink
              "federal funding per tax dollar paid" …..Per tax dollar paid by whom? Corporate taxes included in those numbers? If so that pretty much explains the list.
              Aren't most major corporate headquarters located in blue states? If corporate taxes are part of the total collected then the blue/red mapping is worthless.

              Toyota USA for instance is headquartered in California. When they pay federal taxes does that revenue show up as California's contribution?

              Apple pays billions per year they also are based in California. Does their billions get counted as tax revenue from California?

              IBM in New York? Etc …….

              If what each state pays also includes corporate revenues, and I think it does, this entire argument is foolish.


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              Last edited by L-Pink; 05-21-2013, 11:13 AM.

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              • Robbie
                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                • Aug 2002
                • 20960

                #22
                Originally posted by crockett
                The stats are based on what each state pays vs what they get back from the federal govt.

                New York Obviously pays more in federal taxes each year compared to New Mexico.. Obviously New York will get back more money.

                Seriously is that hard to comprehend? Are you saying that it's ok for states to get back more than what they paid? If so why bitch about welfare moms? It's the exact same so why is it ok on the State level but not on the individual level?

                Welfare states are negative income states on federal tax dollars. Those extra dollars that are returned to them have to come from somewhere. That somewhere is from the pockets of the states that pay more than they get back.

                It's simple math Robbie, why is that so hard to understand?

                The Right always bitches about welfare yet they can't even pay their own way on the state level. The bulk of red states aren't paying their own way.
                The "states" don't pay ANYTHING.
                The PEOPLE living there do.

                And if you are saying that 2 million people in New Mexico are a bunch of "freeloaders" you are insane.
                Those people don't see much of ANY of that money (you know the whole 5.6 million dollars that the STATE gets)

                You are so blinded by politics that you can't see the reality. It IS simple math.
                New Mexico simply gets a tiny 5.6 million dollars per year from the Federal govt. (I deduced that from your stupid Mother Jones stats)
                And where does that money go? To cronies of their Congressmen and Senators.

                You are making it sound like a bunch of toothless redneck Republican PEOPLE are getting a big govt. handout.
                But it's not the way it is at all.

                As I said...New Mexico only has 2 million people. Mostly Native American and hispanic. If you really think that a whopping 5.6 million dollars (that those people will never see) is a "Red State on Govt. Welfare" then you and I will never agree.

                In my opinion...the Federal govt. does not NEED so much money to begin with. And shouldn't have all this power to take money FROM the people of the 50 states and then use it to extort the States to do their bidding by threatening to withhold "federal funding' (which is actually the people's money that the govt. took to begin with)

                Just go on ranting and raving about "blue" and "red".
                The politicians in Washington LOVE it! Makes their mutli-million dollar lifestyles that much easier to maintain.
                Last edited by Robbie; 05-21-2013, 11:12 AM.
                -Robbie
                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                • Sly
                  Let's do some business!
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 31375

                  #23
                  I was curious so I had to look this up. New Mexico really does only have 2 million people, LOL. That's roughly 1% of the country. The United States has more than 20 metro areas with a larger population than New Mexico.
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                  • Dirty Dane
                    Sick Fuck
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 9491

                    #24
                    I thought socialists would be the first to vote for aid.

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                    • Robbie
                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 20960

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Sly
                      I was curious so I had to look this up. New Mexico really does only have 2 million people, LOL. That's roughly 1% of the country. The United States has more than 20 metro areas with a larger population than New Mexico.
                      But according to Mother Jones...they are THE NUMBER ONE FEDERAL WELFARE STATE!
                      -Robbie
                      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                      • Sly
                        Let's do some business!
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 31375

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Robbie
                        But according to Mother Jones...they are THE NUMBER ONE FEDERAL WELFARE STATE!
                        I see what's happening. It's like the argument when people claim high earners pay less in taxes because they use tax breaks to pay a lower percentage, yet still pay more money. For some reason, in some minds, percentages trump actual dollars.
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                        • Tom_PM
                          Porn Meister
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 16443

                          #27
                          It's just math based on dollars in and dollars out. The source of the information really should be irrelevant, but whatever.

                          If you want to get into population and representation then you should join the movement to retool how our senate works. Why should states with millions of people only have 2 senators which is the same as desert states that only have a handful? Oh well, that's how the system works.
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                          • Tom_PM
                            Porn Meister
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 16443

                            #28
                            Percentage is the way you figure "how much" you pay in taxes. If you want to talk raw dollars, then just say so. But 25% is "more than" 15% in any math book.
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                            • Sly
                              Let's do some business!
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 31375

                              #29
                              Originally posted by PR_Tom
                              The source of the information really should be irrelevant, but whatever.
                              I'm going to quote this the next time you don't like a Fox News statistic.

                              Statistics are easily framed. Source is crucial.
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                              • Tom_PM
                                Porn Meister
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 16443

                                #30
                                Who pays "more"? The person who pays 10% of $100, or the person who pays 10% of $1000?
                                Not only do they pay the same rate, but in terms of reality the person who holds that 10% more dear is the one who is paying "more" aren't they... well maybe math doesn't really capture the feeling of "more" as well as we used to think.
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