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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942
    #1

    Another processor goes out of the business.

    Just off the phone with the people at Webstream and they've had their ability to process pulled on them.

    They are in the process of contacting all the merchants now, so heads up if you process through them.



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    • Paul Markham
      Too old to care
      • Jun 2001
      • 52942
      #2
      You had better start reading this.



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        • cherrylula
          lol
          • Jan 2002
          • 15969
          #3
          never heard of them, thankfully.

          good luck cleaning up the mess.

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            • MaDalton
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              • Feb 2004
              • 39861
              #4
              i am so god damn happy that i told them to gfy after they wanted to limit me to $99 per transaction.
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                • dready
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                  • Oct 2002
                  • 5247
                  #5
                  It was only a matter of time.
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                    • Paul Markham
                      Too old to care
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942
                      #6
                      Originally posted by cherrylula
                      never heard of them, thankfully.

                      good luck cleaning up the mess.
                      Not a good one, fortunately most of the bigger orders now go through our merchant account. They had their account pulled. This is why processors need to be double sure they check on everything they process for.



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                        • Webcam Guru
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                          • Aug 2004
                          • 788
                          #7
                          Do you know how many will click on that thread title praying that it will not be the processor they work with that is going down. I know I did.
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                            • The Adult Broker
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                              • Dec 2004
                              • 5265
                              #8
                              thank you for the heads up! Totally appreciate it. I will distribute in broker network.

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                                • pornguy
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 62910
                                  #9
                                  I know I have bought though them, and it much have been from you paul.

                                  Hope you get any money they owe you.
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                                    • Dennis69
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                                      • Feb 2003
                                      • 1685
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Webcam Guru
                                      Do you know how many will click on that thread title praying that it will not be the processor they work with that is going down. I know I did.

                                      Yeah my heart was in my throat when I clicked into this thread! Not a good feeling when a processor closes shop
                                      HaHaHa

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                                        • Paul Markham
                                          Too old to care
                                          • Jun 2001
                                          • 52942
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Webcam Guru
                                          Do you know how many will click on that thread title praying that it will not be the processor they work with that is going down. I know I did.
                                          Need to shake up a few people that moan when people like CCBILL and Epoch are strict about who they work with. Not a good piece of news for us.



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                                            • Paul Markham
                                              Too old to care
                                              • Jun 2001
                                              • 52942
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by pornguy
                                              I know I have bought though them, and it much have been from you paul.

                                              Hope you get any money they owe you.
                                              Not looking good and it will not be for a while. If ever.

                                              I think it's time for a special offer that's under $180 the CCBILL limit. Or two for those who can pay with Epass and the merchant account.



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                                                • pr0
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                                                  • May 2001
                                                  • 23088
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                  i am so god damn happy that i told them to gfy after they wanted to limit me to $99 per transaction.
                                                  i remember you posting that (i believe)

                                                  always sucks when a processor bites the dust...hopefully they don't pull an ibill & forget the last checks
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                                                    • fuzebox
                                                      making it rain
                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                      • 22365
                                                      #14
                                                      Saw the message on the weekend when we logged in, no other communication or responses to emails yet

                                                      Anyone know what's happening with pending payouts?

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                                                        • Paul Markham
                                                          Too old to care
                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                          • 52942
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                          Saw the message on the weekend when we logged in, no other communication or responses to emails yet

                                                          Anyone know what's happening with pending payouts?
                                                          They told me their bank accounts have been frozen. Seems like it will be a while if ever.



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                                                            • MaDalton
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                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                              • 39861
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                              They told me their bank accounts have been frozen. Seems like it will be a while if ever.
                                                              probably the same time it takes MyVirtualCard to pay their debts...
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                                                                • Premier Payments
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                                                                  • Nov 2007
                                                                  • 28
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Scary.

                                                                  Premier Payments Online can help any of you who have lost processing as a result.

                                                                  [email protected]
                                                                  www.premierpaymentsonline.com

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                                                                    • Drake
                                                                      Hello world!
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 12508
                                                                      #18
                                                                      How did you find them and start using them? I'm curious because I've never heard of them before.

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                                                                        • fuzebox
                                                                          making it rain
                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                          • 22365
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                          How did you find them and start using them? I'm curious because I've never heard of them before.
                                                                          They process for a lot of more "alternative" niches

                                                                          They also have a decent shopping cart system for one time downloads (content brokers) and tangibles (DVDs).

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                                                                            • Davy
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                                                                              • Apr 2006
                                                                              • 4323
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Never heard of them, either.
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                                                                                • bobby666
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                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                  • 21765
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  the name is new for me ....

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                                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                      • 52942
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      They were recommended to us and excellent. They allowed a lot more than the normal processors. So it seems I'm looking for a new one.



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                                                                                        • Christina Muller
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                                                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                                                          • 923
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          I know its easy to say it after its happened....but dont some people learn ?.

                                                                                          Go with a trusted billing corp its your money but dont always put greed first,just because it sounds more flexible and a little cheaper does that mean its good?

                                                                                          CCbill and many other billing methods exsist and or go with a merchant account if you can ,but please stop crying when you go with a unknown outfit and it doesnt work out

                                                                                          Im not the sharpest tool in the box but I have never lost 1 cent to a billing corp.

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                                                                                            • Christina Muller
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                                                                                              • Mar 2007
                                                                                              • 923
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Im in Montreal and so was MyVirtualCard ,did I go with them ..it would have been so smooth and easy to do.

                                                                                              NO I didnt

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                                                                                                • Trixxxia
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                  • 5600
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Christina Muller
                                                                                                  I know its easy to say it after its happened....but dont some people learn ?.

                                                                                                  Go with a trusted billing corp its your money but dont always put greed first,just because it sounds more flexible and a little cheaper does that mean its good?

                                                                                                  CCbill and many other billing methods exsist and or go with a merchant account if you can ,but please stop crying when you go with a unknown outfit and it doesnt work out

                                                                                                  Im not the sharpest tool in the box but I have never lost 1 cent to a billing corp.
                                                                                                  Christina - going with a trusted company doesn't necessarily mean you're protected. In the case of Ibill, for example, they were one of the largest and they fell and a lot of people will agree that they were all far from protected. With that example, those that didn't have any other processor to switch to, not only lost what they were owed, but some 'stuck' around because they had no other option and got burnt further.

                                                                                                  The thing with trying other processors/methods is to:
                                                                                                  1) keep your eggs spread out
                                                                                                  2) diminishes your vulnerability to downtime/scrubbing
                                                                                                  3) billing options that aren't offered by the 'well known' guys
                                                                                                  4) help maintain your chargebacks/returns
                                                                                                  5) the chance that more transactions get through/more countries allowed
                                                                                                  6) lower costs

                                                                                                  Not everyone looking to lose money - they take the risk, in the hopes of making 'new found' money - if a few years down the line something should happen, hopefully the gain is/was much better than the potential loss (which unfortunately, isn't always the case).

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                                                                                                    • NETbilling
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                      • 8598
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Please let us know if we can help any of you. We have been in business since 1998 and surely not going anywhere.

                                                                                                      Mitch


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                                                                                                        • Violetta
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                                                                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                                                                          • 28735
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          never delt with them..
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                                                                                                            • MikeB
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                                                              • 2012
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Trixxxia
                                                                                                              Christina - going with a trusted company doesn't necessarily mean you're protected. In the case of Ibill, for example, they were one of the largest and they fell and a lot of people will agree that they were all far from protected. With that example, those that didn't have any other processor to switch to, not only lost what they were owed, but some 'stuck' around because they had no other option and got burnt further.

                                                                                                              The thing with trying other processors/methods is to:
                                                                                                              1) keep your eggs spread out
                                                                                                              2) diminishes your vulnerability to downtime/scrubbing
                                                                                                              3) billing options that aren't offered by the 'well known' guys
                                                                                                              4) help maintain your chargebacks/returns
                                                                                                              5) the chance that more transactions get through/more countries allowed
                                                                                                              6) lower costs

                                                                                                              Not everyone looking to lose money - they take the risk, in the hopes of making 'new found' money - if a few years down the line something should happen, hopefully the gain is/was much better than the potential loss (which unfortunately, isn't always the case).
                                                                                                              The best piece of advice is not to put all of your eggs in one basket. Nicely said Trixxxia :-)

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                                                                                                                • JFK
                                                                                                                  FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                  • 67369
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                  Not looking good and it will not be for a while. If ever.

                                                                                                                  I think it's time for a special offer that's under $180 the CCBILL limit. Or two for those who can pay with Epass and the merchant account.
                                                                                                                  Sorry to hear that Paul

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                                                                                                                    • The Judge
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                                                                                                                      • Jan 2006
                                                                                                                      • 1647
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      I heard iBill is having some trouble too

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                                                                                                                        • V_RocKs
                                                                                                                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                          • 32451
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Another reason to use EPOCH/Paycom!

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                                                                                                                            • MichaelAncher
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                              • 742
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Yeah, it's a hell of a problem, they are my main processor.

                                                                                                                              I spoke with them on the phone last night, and they don't expect to process again, and they are afraid that the frozen funds are lost..and we are talking millions...bad shit

                                                                                                                              I have been with them for more than 4 years and never had any problems, now I have to seach the market for a new one..and who can you trust ?
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                                                                                                                                • MaDalton
                                                                                                                                  I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 39861
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                                                                                  Please let us know if we can help any of you. We have been in business since 1998 and surely not going anywhere.

                                                                                                                                  Mitch
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                  Another reason to use EPOCH/Paycom!
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Christina Muller
                                                                                                                                  I know its easy to say it after its happened....but dont some people learn ?.

                                                                                                                                  Go with a trusted billing corp its your money but dont always put greed first,just because it sounds more flexible and a little cheaper does that mean its good?

                                                                                                                                  CCbill and many other billing methods exsist and or go with a merchant account if you can ,but please stop crying when you go with a unknown outfit and it doesnt work out

                                                                                                                                  Im not the sharpest tool in the box but I have never lost 1 cent to a billing corp.

                                                                                                                                  the problem that most of you don't understand is:

                                                                                                                                  if you run a contentshop you are massively limited in billing options

                                                                                                                                  you can't use CCBill or Paycom because they do not allow larger transactions than maybe $150 or $200 at once, and for a merchant account you need to do $50,000 per month. and how many contentshops do that??? maybe 2 or 3

                                                                                                                                  so please stop pretending to be smarter than us who have to live with this problem to keep our business up for those of you who need to buy content and want the freedom of paying with your credit card.

                                                                                                                                  thank you
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                                                                                                                                    • papill0n
                                                                                                                                      Unregistered Abuser
                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2007
                                                                                                                                      • 15547
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Christina Muller
                                                                                                                                      I know its easy to say it after its happened....but dont some people learn ?.

                                                                                                                                      Go with a trusted billing corp its your money but dont always put greed first,just because it sounds more flexible and a little cheaper does that mean its good?

                                                                                                                                      CCbill and many other billing methods exsist and or go with a merchant account if you can ,but please stop crying when you go with a unknown outfit and it doesnt work out

                                                                                                                                      Im not the sharpest tool in the box but I have never lost 1 cent to a billing corp.

                                                                                                                                      Wow kinda harsh Christina. You ever hear of websitebilling? Globill? iBill?

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                                                                                                                                        • Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 7515
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          never heard of them

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                                                                                                                                            • jcsike
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2006
                                                                                                                                              • 689
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                                                                                              Please let us know if we can help any of you. We have been in business since 1998 and surely not going anywhere.

                                                                                                                                              Mitch

                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Premier Payments
                                                                                                                                              Scary.

                                                                                                                                              Premier Payments Online can help any of you who have lost processing as a result.

                                                                                                                                              [email protected]
                                                                                                                                              *vermin*

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                                                                                                                                                • Sebastano Perero
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 458
                                                                                                                                                  #37
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                                                                                                                                                  We just have not been notified. They just stole our money, not even warning that the stop work. The answers are still not. Where to find the billing system for the shop? Unfortunately, not all payment systems suitable for our purposes.
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                                                                                                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 52942
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by JFK
                                                                                                                                                      Sorry to hear that Paul
                                                                                                                                                      Thanks mate. Will be doing a little Spam tomorrow to make up for it. LOL



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                                                                                                                                                        • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                          Too old to care
                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 52942
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                          the problem that most of you don't understand is:

                                                                                                                                                          if you run a contentshop you are massively limited in billing options

                                                                                                                                                          you can't use CCBill or Paycom because they do not allow larger transactions than maybe $150 or $200 at once, and for a merchant account you need to do $50,000 per month. and how many contentshops do that??? maybe 2 or 3

                                                                                                                                                          so please stop pretending to be smarter than us who have to live with this problem to keep our business up for those of you who need to buy content and want the freedom of paying with your credit card.

                                                                                                                                                          thank you
                                                                                                                                                          Well said.

                                                                                                                                                          Amazing how people are coming in and giving advice without a clue. Or spamming a thread like this.

                                                                                                                                                          We have a Merchant account Mitch and you can't get anywhere near the level they give us.

                                                                                                                                                          As for the "Go with the established names!!!" It's been said already.



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                                                                                                                                                            • Poppy
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                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2002
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
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                                                                                                                                                                • NETbilling
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 8598
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                  the problem that most of you don't understand is:

                                                                                                                                                                  if you run a contentshop you are massively limited in billing options

                                                                                                                                                                  you can't use CCBill or Paycom because they do not allow larger transactions than maybe $150 or $200 at once, and for a merchant account you need to do $50,000 per month. and how many contentshops do that??? maybe 2 or 3

                                                                                                                                                                  so please stop pretending to be smarter than us who have to live with this problem to keep our business up for those of you who need to buy content and want the freedom of paying with your credit card.

                                                                                                                                                                  thank you
                                                                                                                                                                  Actually, if you are selling content that you are shipping on a DVD, there is no monthly minimum. It is only for downloadable to get a merchant account that has the minimum and if you are in the US, we can now place you for smaller monthly amounts.


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                                                                                                                                                                  CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                                                                                  Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                                                                                  Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                                                                                                    • MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                      I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 39861
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                                                                                                                      Actually, if you are selling content that you are shipping on a DVD, there is no monthly minimum. It is only for downloadable to get a merchant account that has the minimum and if you are in the US, we can now place you for smaller monthly amounts.
                                                                                                                                                                      i have yet to understand why it is a higher risk when clients download the content right after their purchase compared to me burning a DVD with that content and send it by mail. this makes absolutely no sense at all.

                                                                                                                                                                      what no one seems to understand is that we are a business to business operation that sells to webmasters - who can download their purchased content right after making their payment.

                                                                                                                                                                      it has nothing to do with "downloadable content" that is offered to surfers on paysites - but it's being thrown in the same pot. it is stupid, it makes no sense and no one will ever convince me of something different.

                                                                                                                                                                      and no, we're still not based in the US

                                                                                                                                                                      but we have found a good solution with www.paysite-cash.biz - everything works like we need it, their rate is reasonable, they offer american express and they pay on time every week.

                                                                                                                                                                      so - my search is over for now
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                                                                                                                                                                        • jtpornstar
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 122
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Here's the reason: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/tex...on=&in_chn_id=
                                                                                                                                                                          Hard to believe any biller would be so short sighted. We billed one quite big site with them for over 3 years and have been told that all is lost.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Rochard
                                                                                                                                                                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 75762
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              I never heard of this company.....
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Trixxxia
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 5600
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by jtpornstar
                                                                                                                                                                                  Here's the reason: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/tex...on=&in_chn_id=
                                                                                                                                                                                  Hard to believe any biller would be so short sighted. We billed one quite big site with them for over 3 years and have been told that all is lost.
                                                                                                                                                                                  In that article they also mentioned NetCash - anyone know if they're also facing the same issues?

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • will76
                                                                                                                                                                                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 18037
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Christina Muller

                                                                                                                                                                                      Im not the sharpest tool in the box but I have never lost 1 cent to a billing corp.
                                                                                                                                                                                      considering ibill was the second biggest processor and they went out of business and fucked a lot of people, I would say that you never lost 1 cent to a billing corp because either A. you never used one, B. you don't make any money, or C. you are extremely lucky, or D. you have only ever used ccbill.


                                                                                                                                                                                      Lots of smart people have lost lots of money to a billing company either from using them for their own sites or by being an affiliate of a company that used them.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • will76
                                                                                                                                                                                          Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 18037
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by RageCash-Ben
                                                                                                                                                                                          Wow kinda harsh Christina. You ever hear of websitebilling? Globill? iBill?
                                                                                                                                                                                          If you have been around since 99 or earlier there were 3 big billing companies back then... ccbill, ibill, and drm/web800.

                                                                                                                                                                                          DRM/Web800 went out of business late 99, early 2000. Lots of people got fucked.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Ibill went out of business 2005?, lots of people got fucked.


                                                                                                                                                                                          ccbill is the only one left of the orginal big three. So no matter how smart you are, if you have been around for 10 years or so there is a very good chance you have lost money to a third party biller in the past. And it's not from using smaller unknown companies either, the big ones have gone down just the same as the smaller ones.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • fuzebox
                                                                                                                                                                                              making it rain
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 22365
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Easy enough to say from your position I for one will probably never be able to bill with ccbill given my nationality and residence, and I know people with tame, legal content that have a difficult time finding billing as well.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Christina Muller
                                                                                                                                                                                              I know its easy to say it after its happened....but dont some people learn ?.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Go with a trusted billing corp its your money but dont always put greed first,just because it sounds more flexible and a little cheaper does that mean its good?

                                                                                                                                                                                              CCbill and many other billing methods exsist and or go with a merchant account if you can ,but please stop crying when you go with a unknown outfit and it doesnt work out

                                                                                                                                                                                              Im not the sharpest tool in the box but I have never lost 1 cent to a billing corp.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Sebastano Perero
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 458
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Actually, if you are selling content that you are shipping on a DVD, there is no monthly minimum. It is only for downloadable to get a merchant account that has the minimum and if you are in the US, we can now place you for smaller monthly amounts.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  We are in the Czech Republic. You will be working with us?
                                                                                                                                                                                                  European adult content provider,
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Recipes , Накопительное страхование

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Iron Fist
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 23400
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Congrats to all the winners?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      i like waffles

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