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  • GigoloJustin
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    • Jan 2005
    • 2244
    #1

    Top Level Programmer Needed - Starting Salary of up to 100k per year (DOE)

    I am looking to hire a high level programmer to lead the development of an adult dating site + affiliate program.

    Tasks would include:

    Development of CMS for members
    Development of spam compliant email system
    NATS affiliate software setup (open to other options)
    Integrating affiliate software/cms/email system
    Developing incoming/outgoing API scripts

    Applicant must have strong references and experience in dealing with high traffic complex projects.

    Also, you must be willing to relocate to Wenatchee, WA - Would consider Seattle, WA for the right person.

    We want the best, and we will pay for the best. Starting wage ranges from $70-100k per year. Will cover cost of relocation.

    Please email me your resume to [email protected]
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    • Harmon
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      • Mar 2004
      • 20012
      #2
      Good opportunity for somebody. Bumps for you.
      [email protected]

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        • Dankasaur
          So Fucking Fossilized
          • Sep 2011
          • 1432
          #3
          Intredasting...

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            • edgeprod
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              • Mar 2004
              • 10019
              #4
              Good luck with this, but GFY isn't likely to be the place to find an ideal candidate.

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                • Klen
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 32234
                  #5
                  Originally posted by edgeprod
                  Good luck with this, but GFY isn't likely to be the place to find an ideal candidate.
                  Yeah dont see point at all publishing inhouse job,question is is there any member from that area here not just is there any programmer living there.

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                    • GigoloJustin
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                      • Jan 2005
                      • 2244
                      #6
                      Originally posted by edgeprod
                      Good luck with this, but GFY isn't likely to be the place to find an ideal candidate.
                      I posted on indeed as well =) It would be nice to find someone on here that's familiar with NATS/Netbilling.

                      There has to be a ton of out of work programmers around here since the fall of the adult affiliate model that would be willing to relocate for 100k a year?

                      and lol @ no members from the area. Didn't you know that Wenatchee used to be the Cross Sale capital of the world? Both us and Quickbuck had offices in Wenatchee.

                      I had two different programmers from GFY relocate to our lovely town!

                      Most of my programmers never left office/house.. so I don't think they really gave a shit where they worked from. As long as we kept the redbull stocked.

                      Dom - Sharky told me that he doesn't love you no more and you gotta come work with me! Sorry for the bad news! =)
                      Last edited by GigoloJustin; 05-13-2013, 06:49 AM.

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                        • Barefootsies
                          Choice is an Illusion
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 42635
                          #7
                          Originally posted by edgeprod
                          Good luck with this, but GFY isn't likely to be the place to find an ideal candidate.
                          Amen to dat shit BROmance.

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                            • Dankasaur
                              So Fucking Fossilized
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 1432
                              #8
                              I'm willing to relocate, but not for $100k/yr.. I can make that working remote or for myself.

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                                • blackmonsters
                                  Making PHP work
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 20992
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by edgeprod
                                  Good luck with this, but GFY isn't likely to be the place to find an ideal candidate.
                                  If you are speaking about yourself then cool.

                                  Otherwise, I promise you that you don't have a clue about who is on this board.

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                                    • fuzebox
                                      making it rain
                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 22353
                                      #10
                                      Nice opportunity for someone

                                      Justin it's been too long

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                                        • Sid70
                                          Downshifter
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 16413
                                          #11
                                          100k needs a bump.
                                          Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                            • edgeprod
                                              Permanently Gone
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 10019
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                              Yeah dont see point at all publishing inhouse job,question is is there any member from that area here not just is there any programmer living there.
                                              Well, I think that enough programmers think that the salary justifies a move (just maybe not "top-level" programmers like the title states) .. it's just that so few truly senior-level programmers are still in adult, and fewer still are available and/or browsing GFY.

                                              I'm just a mediocre programmer, and I'm almost constantly engaged. I think I've made "looking for work" posts twice on here in almost a decade.


                                              Originally posted by GigoloJustin
                                              I posted on indeed as well =) It would be nice to find someone on here that's familiar with NATS/Netbilling.

                                              There has to be a ton of out of work programmers around here since the fall of the adult affiliate model that would be willing to relocate for 100k a year?
                                              I'd argue that training someone on NATS/Netbilling would be a much better option than settling for a programmer simply because they had experience with them .. especially if you're willing to relocate someone. You could get a very solid mid-level person for $100k, who really knew their shit and had a good work ethic. Learning the NATS/Netbilling paradigms should be cake, versus trying to find a NATS/Netbilling person and hope that they have the technical talent. Hope that makes sense.


                                              Originally posted by GigoloJustin
                                              Dom - Sharky told me that he doesn't love you no more and you gotta come work with me! Sorry for the bad news! =)
                                              Ha! Me love Sharky long time. He'd have to rumble me in the cage to get me to leave the team.


                                              Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                              If you are speaking about yourself then cool.

                                              Otherwise, I promise you that you don't have a clue about who is on this board.
                                              As an employer of people from this board for over a decade, I can tell you that non-GFY sources of technical talent have been producing superior results for some time now.

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                                                • Fat Panda
                                                  Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                  • 13296
                                                  #13
                                                  great opportunity !

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                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                      • 42635
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                      I can tell you that non-GFY sources of technical talent have been producing superior results for some time now.
                                                      Last edited by Barefootsies; 05-13-2013, 10:59 AM.
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                                                      Enough Said.

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                                                        • blackmonsters
                                                          Making PHP work
                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 20992
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by GigoloJustin
                                                          I am looking to hire a high level programmer to lead the development of an adult dating site + affiliate program.

                                                          Tasks would include:

                                                          Development of CMS for members
                                                          Development of spam compliant email system
                                                          NATS affiliate software setup (open to other options)
                                                          Integrating affiliate software/cms/email system
                                                          Developing incoming/outgoing API scripts

                                                          Applicant must have strong references and experience in dealing with high traffic complex projects.

                                                          Also, you must be willing to relocate to Wenatchee, WA - Would consider Seattle, WA for the right person.

                                                          We want the best, and we will pay for the best. Starting wage ranges from $70-100k per year. Will cover cost of relocation.

                                                          Please email me your resume to [email protected]
                                                          You should offer this job as a "remote position".

                                                          http://goo.gl/maps/TAk4G


                                                          Your neighbor will murder you with frogs
                                                          Click here

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                                                            • SpicyM
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                              • 4575
                                                              #16
                                                              Are you the Justin from TrafficGigolos ??
                                                              no sig, sorry

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                                                                • 96ukssob
                                                                  So Fucking Banananananas
                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 12991
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Good luck! Good programmers are hard to come by.

                                                                  No offense, but even at $100k you are on the low end for a "high level" programmer, let along someone that would be willing to relocate. I have a number of friends who are developers, some are insanely good and wouldn't take anything less than $200k to relocate. Just my 2cents, but hope you get someone good!
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                                                                    • xNetworx
                                                                      So Fucking What
                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                      • 14445
                                                                      #18
                                                                      There are probably some fine candidates willing to relocate for 100k. Not sure why everybody is being negative. Nice to see a solid job opportunity posted here. Good luck to both parties.

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                                                                        • Barefootsies
                                                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                          • 42635
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                          I'm willing to relocate, but not for $100k/yr.. I can make that working remote or for myself.
                                                                          Not everyone is you.

                                                                          There are plenty of people, just like worker bees who prefer a pay check versus scrambling for jobs every day/week/month, who would enjoy just getting a pay check and not having to worry about chasing down more gigs. Some people prefer the 'opportunity' to make more money while others simply want 'stability' of a weekly paycheck. No additional thought required.

                                                                          Should You Email Your Members?

                                                                          Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                                          Enough Said.

                                                                          "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                                            • edgeprod
                                                                              Permanently Gone
                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 10019
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by bossku69
                                                                              Good luck! Good programmers are hard to come by.

                                                                              No offense, but even at $100k you are on the low end for a "high level" programmer, let along someone that would be willing to relocate. I have a number of friends who are developers, some are insanely good and wouldn't take anything less than $200k to relocate. Just my 2cents, but hope you get someone good!
                                                                              That was my initial thought as well, but then I thought about some of the senior guys I know who are only making $165k-$180k due to all of the other talent available (job losses) .. and if they lost their jobs, might jump at $100k just to keep from being underwater.

                                                                              Also, for some, $100k of stable money would be a lot better than a good salary that's more speculative.

                                                                              The unfortunate part is that it's difficult for non-programmers to be able to tell the senior-level guys from the junior-level guys .. especially since the need for senior-level might be in architecture, not in execution, or in test coverage, not in ongoing maintenance, etc. Different strokes, and all that.

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                                                                                • edgeprod
                                                                                  Permanently Gone
                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                  • 10019
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                  Not everyone is you.

                                                                                  There are plenty of people, just like worker bees who prefer a pay check versus scrambling for jobs every day/week/month, who would enjoy just getting a pay check and not having to worry about chasing down more gigs. Some people prefer the 'opportunity' to make more money while others simply want 'stability' of a weekly paycheck. No additional thought required.

                                                                                  Get out of my head!

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                                                                                    • adultmobile
                                                                                      No, I am not banned
                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                      • 5345
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      If really can't fina anyone already in USA (unlikely?), last resort offer this to some filipino or indian along with help with VISA to immigrate in USA. I know people in Florida do it with romanians too.

                                                                                      PS: You did not specified any language or operating system in the job request.
                                                                                      Last edited by adultmobile; 05-13-2013, 12:52 PM.

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                                                                                        • Dankasaur
                                                                                          So Fucking Fossilized
                                                                                          • Sep 2011
                                                                                          • 1432
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                          Not everyone is you.

                                                                                          There are plenty of people, just like worker bees who prefer a pay check versus scrambling for jobs every day/week/month, who would enjoy just getting a pay check and not having to worry about chasing down more gigs. Some people prefer the 'opportunity' to make more money while others simply want 'stability' of a weekly paycheck. No additional thought required.

                                                                                          Except that he's asking for a "high" level programmer, which ultimately means a senior programmer, and anybody who's at that stage are either snagged up and have no intentions of leaving where they currently are, or they work for themselves and would require a lot more than $100k/yr and paying for their relocation to take it.

                                                                                          I currently do not make even close to 100k/yr but my skills are at that level.. Why do I not make that much but turn down such a job? Because the joys of working for myself and not for someone else far outweigh making 100k/yr.

                                                                                          Many people in my position could make more with such a job offer than we do now, but we're not right now planners, we're future planners. At such a level of pay, I highly doubt there's any wiggle room for raises... I'm 99% sure that if I took such a job, I'd be making that 100k/yr my whole time there, whereas right now, I may not be making that much, but in a year or 2 I could be, and I am not stuck working 9-5 for someone else putting all my skills into making them rich just for a "stable paycheck".

                                                                                          Our skills are in high enough demand that it's not hard to come by that "stable paycheck".

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                                                                                            • BareBacked
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2007
                                                                                              • 3685
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              you could get 3 romainians for that.
                                                                                              NEW SITE PAYING $30 for a $1 TRIAL

                                                                                              Selfies

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                                                                                                • Poppy
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                                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                                  • 6254
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Just shot you an email Justin. Good to see you around. Been a long time.
                                                                                                  VP Sales, Peak5Payments
                                                                                                  [email protected] Skype: consultpoppy
                                                                                                  In adult since 98'

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                                                                                                    • slapass
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                      • 14625
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I should become a programmer.

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                                                                                                        • Klen
                                                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                                                          • 32234
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by slapass
                                                                                                          I should become a programmer.
                                                                                                          Yes you should,salaries for top notch programmers are higher then of some company ceo's.

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                                                                                                            • Gozarian
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                                                                                                              • Jun 2012
                                                                                                              • 558
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by BareBacked
                                                                                                              you could get 3 romainians for that.
                                                                                                              But could you trust them?

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                                                                                                                • 2013
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Dec 2012
                                                                                                                  • 4390
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  i like pooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooo

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                                                                                                                    • BareBacked
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                      • 3685
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Gozarian
                                                                                                                      But could you trust them?
                                                                                                                      depends 100% on the person. I would not trust anyone right off the bat with emails or members data

                                                                                                                      what you gonna do?
                                                                                                                      NEW SITE PAYING $30 for a $1 TRIAL

                                                                                                                      Selfies

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                                                                                                                        • adulttraffic
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                          • 797
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by GigoloJustin
                                                                                                                          I am looking to hire a high level programmer to lead the development of an adult dating site + affiliate program.

                                                                                                                          Tasks would include:

                                                                                                                          Development of CMS for members
                                                                                                                          Development of spam compliant email system
                                                                                                                          NATS affiliate software setup (open to other options)
                                                                                                                          Integrating affiliate software/cms/email system
                                                                                                                          Developing incoming/outgoing API scripts

                                                                                                                          Applicant must have strong references and experience in dealing with high traffic complex projects.

                                                                                                                          Also, you must be willing to relocate to Wenatchee, WA - Would consider Seattle, WA for the right person.

                                                                                                                          We want the best, and we will pay for the best. Starting wage ranges from $70-100k per year. Will cover cost of relocation.

                                                                                                                          Please email me your resume to [email protected]
                                                                                                                          LOL UP TO 100k a year?? A TOP level programmer can do this monthly by them self.
                                                                                                                          Respect My Authoritah!

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                                                                                                                            • xNetworx
                                                                                                                              So Fucking What
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                              • 14445
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by adulttraffic
                                                                                                                              LOL UP TO 100k a year?? A TOP level programmer can do this monthly by them self.
                                                                                                                              So why the rude comment? When did you last offer a person a 100k/yr job?
                                                                                                                              Last edited by xNetworx; 05-13-2013, 02:09 PM.

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                                                                                                                                • BareBacked
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                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                  • 3685
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by adulttraffic
                                                                                                                                  LOL UP TO 100k a year?? A TOP level programmer can do this monthly by them self.
                                                                                                                                  Awesome to hear you are doing so well. What is the best way to contact you regarding traffic?
                                                                                                                                  NEW SITE PAYING $30 for a $1 TRIAL

                                                                                                                                  Selfies

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                                                                                                                                    • fuzebox
                                                                                                                                      making it rain
                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 22353
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Lol at all the programmers making $200k a year... Back when I did this, full time positions in both adult and non-adult were like $50-90k. Have times changed or are egos just more inflated?

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                                                                                                                                        • hand-held
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                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2006
                                                                                                                                          • 136
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                                                                          Lol at all the programmers making $200k a year... Back when I did this, full time positions in both adult and non-adult were like $50-90k. Have times changed or are egos just more inflated?
                                                                                                                                          Depends on where you are and what you do. Getting someone to move from Seattle for 100k is rough, getting someone to move from California for 100k would be near impossible. Even PHP folks these days! Ultimately you're looking for the person that wants the job, not just the salary. Then hopefully they'll be reasonable.
                                                                                                                                          Pimp pimp... hooray! Pimp pimp... hooray!

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                                                                                                                                            • edgeprod
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                                                                              Lol at all the programmers making $200k a year... Back when I did this, full time positions in both adult and non-adult were like $50-90k. Have times changed or are egos just more inflated?
                                                                                                                                              It's important to clarify (not just for you, but for the driveling idiots who will latch onto your comment without context): he's asking for a SENIOR-level programmer, not some random programmer. Random programmers still make $50-$90k, that's the entry-level and mid-level norms, not just in adult.

                                                                                                                                              Regardless of whether he actually needs what he's asking for, the salary level he's offering is possible for that type of talent, if they are looking at intangibles beyond the paycheck, etc.

                                                                                                                                              You're correct that most programmers (or, in this case, senior-level programmers) are not making $200k. People whose names you would probably recognize (people who have worked for me in the past) are at $165k-$180k now. $200k isn't easy to come by anymore, and I'd say it's all but unheard of in adult.

                                                                                                                                              To put that in perspective, my freelance hourly rate is generally $225/hr (less for projects I like, more for projects I don't). I'd have to code (not work -- CODE) almost 20 hours per week at that rate to come out at $200k/year. It's unreasonable to expect that you could acquire customers at your chosen rate, complete their projects with all of the overhead and administrative bullshit, and still put in a solid 20 or so hours per week. That's why many people (myself included) choose to take a salary at this point until things get less speculative and the market returns in many industries. $100k without the "hassles" of the freelance is appealing to some.

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                                                                                                                                                • adulttraffic
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                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                                                  • 797
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                                                                                                                  It's important to clarify (not just for you, but for the driveling idiots who will latch onto your comment without context): he's asking for a SENIOR-level programmer, not some random programmer. Random programmers still make $50-$90k, that's the entry-level and mid-level norms, not just in adult.

                                                                                                                                                  Regardless of whether he actually needs what he's asking for, the salary level he's offering is possible for that type of talent, if they are looking at intangibles beyond the paycheck, etc.

                                                                                                                                                  You're correct that most programmers (or, in this case, senior-level programmers) are not making $200k. People whose names you would probably recognize (people who have worked for me in the past) are at $165k-$180k now. $200k isn't easy to come by anymore, and I'd say it's all but unheard of in adult.

                                                                                                                                                  To put that in perspective, my freelance hourly rate is generally $225/hr (less for projects I like, more for projects I don't). I'd have to code (not work -- CODE) almost 20 hours per week at that rate to come out at $200k/year. It's unreasonable to expect that you could acquire customers at your chosen rate, complete their projects with all of the overhead and administrative bullshit, and still put in a solid 20 or so hours per week. That's why many people (myself included) choose to take a salary at this point until things get less speculative and the market returns in many industries. $100k without the "hassles" of the freelance is appealing to some.
                                                                                                                                                  The offer was for TOP LEVEL programmer, meaning NOT entry level. Its you thats the idiot.
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                                                                                                                                                    • adulttraffic
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                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2006
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      And most TOP LEVEL programmers dont need to find with on a gfy. They are either working for the like of google or making millions from their own projects.
                                                                                                                                                      Respect My Authoritah!

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                                                                                                                                                        • edgeprod
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by adulttraffic
                                                                                                                                                          The offer was for TOP LEVEL programmer, meaning NOT entry level. Its you thats the idiot.
                                                                                                                                                          Obviously, you either didn't bother to read, or your reading skills are marginal at best. I addressed that in my comment -- in fact, right in the first paragraph (wow).

                                                                                                                                                          If you think you can't find a senior-level programmer for $100k, your head is so far up your ass, you have to fart to breathe. Salaries have changed in the past couple of years.

                                                                                                                                                          You just said that a senior-level programmer makes $100k in a MONTH -- you're a space cadet at best, slinging stupid shit like that around. No one is impressed by you pretending to be a big shot, sorry for that.

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                                                                                                                                                            • adulttraffic
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                                                                                                                              Obviously, you either didn't bother to read, or your reading skills are marginal at best. I addressed that in my comment -- in fact, right in the first paragraph (wow).

                                                                                                                                                              If you think you can't find a senior-level programmer for $100k, your head is so far up your ass, you have to fart to breathe. Salaries have changed in the past couple of years.

                                                                                                                                                              You just said that a senior-level programmer makes $100k in a MONTH -- you're a space cadet at best, slinging stupid shit like that around. No one is impressed by you pretending to be a big shot, sorry for that.
                                                                                                                                                              LOL you are sooo easy to troll. Proof most programmers lacks common sense.
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                                                                                                                                                                • edgeprod
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by adulttraffic
                                                                                                                                                                  LOL you are sooo easy to troll. Proof most programmers lacks common sense.
                                                                                                                                                                  "I trolled you! I tried to make myself look like a moron on purpose!"

                                                                                                                                                                  Good job, you fooled me with just how dumb you looked.
                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by edgeprod; 05-13-2013, 02:55 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Fossilized
                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2011
                                                                                                                                                                      • 1432
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                                                                                                      Lol at all the programmers making $200k a year... Back when I did this, full time positions in both adult and non-adult were like $50-90k. Have times changed or are egos just more inflated?
                                                                                                                                                                      Times have changed. The demand for programmers is insanely high in mainstream. Especially "Social Hackers" (programmers who can also market). I had just went through the interview process for a startup in San Francisco that was offering $120k+/yr salary with benefits, paid vacations, relocation and equity in the company for a senior level PHP developer.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • jay23
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Top level coder is 100K, add another 100K for some one with adult know how (so you dont have to explain to them what is an affiliate)

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                                                                                                                                                                            • mineistaken
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              So how do you define if programmer is "senior" level or not?

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                                                                                                                                                                                • BareBacked
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 3685
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                                                                                                                                                  It's important to clarify (not just for you, but for the driveling idiots who will latch onto your comment without context): he's asking for a SENIOR-level programmer, not some random programmer. Random programmers still make $50-$90k, that's the entry-level and mid-level norms, not just in adult.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Regardless of whether he actually needs what he's asking for, the salary level he's offering is possible for that type of talent, if they are looking at intangibles beyond the paycheck, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                  You're correct that most programmers (or, in this case, senior-level programmers) are not making $200k. People whose names you would probably recognize (people who have worked for me in the past) are at $165k-$180k now. $200k isn't easy to come by anymore, and I'd say it's all but unheard of in adult.

                                                                                                                                                                                  To put that in perspective, my freelance hourly rate is generally $225/hr (less for projects I like, more for projects I don't). I'd have to code (not work -- CODE) almost 20 hours per week at that rate to come out at $200k/year. It's unreasonable to expect that you could acquire customers at your chosen rate, complete their projects with all of the overhead and administrative bullshit, and still put in a solid 20 or so hours per week. That's why many people (myself included) choose to take a salary at this point until things get less speculative and the market returns in many industries. $100k without the "hassles" of the freelance is appealing to some.


                                                                                                                                                                                  Did you net 200k in 2012 ?
                                                                                                                                                                                  NEW SITE PAYING $30 for a $1 TRIAL

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • BareBacked
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                                                                      Times have changed. The demand for programmers is insanely high in mainstream. Especially "Social Hackers" (programmers who can also market). I had just went through the interview process for a startup in San Francisco that was offering $120k+/yr salary with benefits, paid vacations, relocation and equity in the company for a senior level PHP developer.
                                                                                                                                                                                      san fran a janitor makes $100k + stock options..
                                                                                                                                                                                      You need it to afford to live there
                                                                                                                                                                                      NEW SITE PAYING $30 for a $1 TRIAL

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • jay23
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                                                                                                                                          So how do you define if programmer is "senior" level or not?
                                                                                                                                                                                          If he is un-employed then he is not a senior developer ...I always said, their are not un employed good developers.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • adulttraffic
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by jay23
                                                                                                                                                                                              Top level coder is 100K, add another 100K for some one with adult know how (so you dont have to explain to them what is an affiliate)
                                                                                                                                                                                              No way.. he made millions with his claim to fame. leadwrench LOL
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • adulttraffic
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Obviously, you either didn't bother to read, or your reading skills are marginal at best. I addressed that in my comment -- in fact, right in the first paragraph (wow).

                                                                                                                                                                                                  If you think you can't find a senior-level programmer for $100k, your head is so far up your ass, you have to fart to breathe. Salaries have changed in the past couple of years.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  You just said that a senior-level programmer makes $100k in a MONTH -- you're a space cadet at best, slinging stupid shit like that around. No one is impressed by you pretending to be a big shot, sorry for that.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  haha you got me.. let me explain something to you. Entry level programmer at BEST. A TOP programmer is not surfing programing jobs here. They are OFFERED them. And like I said before (you cant either read or comprehend) they are working on their own ideas, hence the millions possible. Dont take it out on me because all you came up with is a sorry ass program like leadwrench. Real programmers come up with ideas that actually make money.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Fossilized
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2011
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                                                                                                                                                      So how do you define if programmer is "senior" level or not?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/programming-and-development/what-makes-a-developer-senior/411
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Here are some of the basic qualifications that a ?senior developer? should have: 10 years of experience in the programming field (although seven or eight may be enough depending on what they have been working on), a rock solid understanding of theory, and excellent debugging skills. They also should be able to: work closely with the software architect to suggest improvements within the overall vision for the project; ask questions at the architecture level and not at a low implementation level; and serve as a resource and mentor for less experienced developers. You should also be able to trust him or her to transform a set of class diagrams into quality code with little oversight. A ?senior developer? should not require handholding.

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