Penthouse To Go Public !(and plans to be 4 times bigger than Playboy)

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  • Christina Muller
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    • Mar 2007
    • 923

    #1

    Penthouse To Go Public !(and plans to be 4 times bigger than Playboy)

    I just read the article on avn.


    Bell, who said he acquired one of the largest adult magazines "by accident," also discussed his industry past and future plans. His most recent big splash in the industry was his $500 million purchase of Various, the parent company of AdultFriendFinder. He said Penthouse will use the purchase to leverage itself as one of the largest adult companies to ever go public. The company plans to take the brand public in the second quarter of 2008.

    "I expect us to be four times the size of Playboy by the time we go public," Bell said.


    Full article: http://avn.com/index.cfm?objectID=FB...6533FE4B7A26DD

    not bad for a company many thought had no money

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  • Chest Rockwell
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    • Feb 2007
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    #2
    They overpaid for AFF

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    • CyberHustler
      Masterbaiter
      • Feb 2006
      • 28777

      #3
      Hmmm.....
      “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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      • tony299
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        • Aug 2002
        • 57021

        #4
        looks like hubris at its finest.

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        • mikesouth
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          • Jun 2003
          • 6337

          #5
          I can say in 4 years that mikesouth.com will be bigger than google

          That dont make it so
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          • Christina Muller
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2007
            • 923

            #6
            Mike when they start by taking over Various for 500 mil it gives the comment more substance.


            Now if you put in a bid for yahoo and buy it then tell me you intend to make mikesouth.com huge I will go along with your story

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            • ServerGenius
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              • Feb 2002
              • 9377

              #7
              Originally posted by mikesouth
              I can say in 4 years that mikesouth.com will be bigger than google

              That dont make it so
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              • sicone
                Retired
                • Jan 2004
                • 18453

                #8
                why stop at 4 times.. why not go for 10 times.

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                • V_RocKs
                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 32451

                  #9
                  Why be bigger than Playboy? Why not also be better?

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                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                    • Mar 2003
                    • 30307

                    #10
                    Good luck I say!

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                    • Christina Muller
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 923

                      #11
                      sicone-why stop at 4 times.. why not go for 10 times.

                      I think they are looking at the statement this way.

                      Playboy is a huge global brand and to aim for 4 times bigger is to say we will be bigger in revenues I guess as Playboy must rank as the ultimate brand with cola cola,pepsi,mcdonalds etc.

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                      • NinjaSteve
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 11089

                        #12
                        I think people think of playboy more than they think of any other xxx company/magazine. They had their own show, the girls next door, and I think that helped with the name branding.
                        ...

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                        • Michaelious
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 6720

                          #13
                          Should create even more competition between the big guns

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                          • GTS Mark
                            Vrume Mark
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 20912

                            #14
                            Penthouse will be huge and ARE huge, there are strip clubs opening up around the country leveraging the penthouse name. They are really going the brand route and appear to be licensing their name to alot of different things (ala Playboy).

                            They will end up going public trust me... I'll be one of the first people lining up to buy stock when it does. They have a good team put together

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                            • strobi
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                              • Nov 2002
                              • 7383

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                              Penthouse will be huge and ARE huge, there are strip clubs opening up around the country leveraging the penthouse name. They are really going the brand route and appear to be licensing their name to alot of different things (ala Playboy).

                              They will end up going public trust me... I'll be one of the first people lining up to buy stock when it does. They have a good team put together
                              Nice info, will look out for the stock issue too...

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                              • Barefootsies
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                                • Feb 2005
                                • 42635

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Chest Rockwell
                                They overpaid for AFF
                                That's an understatement
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                                • Kevsh
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                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 8619

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Chest Rockwell
                                  They overpaid for AFF
                                  Assuming they go public, I doubt anyone with stock there is going to care much. And the purchase was obviously with an IPO in mind so it all makes sense, even if overpriced.

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                                  • LadyMischief
                                    Orgasms N Such!
                                    • Sep 2002
                                    • 18135

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                                    Penthouse will be huge and ARE huge, there are strip clubs opening up around the country leveraging the penthouse name. They are really going the brand route and appear to be licensing their name to alot of different things (ala Playboy).

                                    They will end up going public trust me... I'll be one of the first people lining up to buy stock when it does. They have a good team put together
                                    Those clubs are pretty nice if I must say so ;)

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                                    • tony299
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                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 57021

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                                      Penthouse will be huge and ARE huge, there are strip clubs opening up around the country leveraging the penthouse name. They are really going the brand route and appear to be licensing their name to alot of different things (ala Playboy).

                                      They will end up going public trust me... I'll be one of the first people lining up to buy stock when it does. They have a good team put together
                                      Man they must of promised you alot of business,you took ass kissing up a notch. lol

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                                      • Atticus
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2004
                                        • 1051

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                        Those clubs are pretty nice if I must say so ;)
                                        The Penthouse club here in Vegas sucks. They basically just took over another bad club (Sin) and slapped the Penthouse name on it.

                                        Doesnt even compare to other clubs in Vegas like Spearment Rhino, Sapphires, Club Paradise etc.

                                        Playboy club on the other hand is beautiful. Definitely a lot of work went into the place.

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                                        • LadyMischief
                                          Orgasms N Such!
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 18135

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Atticus
                                          The Penthouse club here in Vegas sucks. They basically just took over another bad club (Sin) and slapped the Penthouse name on it.

                                          Doesnt even compare to other clubs in Vegas like Spearment Rhino, Sapphires, Club Paradise etc.

                                          Playboy club on the other hand is beautiful. Definitely a lot of work went into the place.
                                          Heh I dunno, I found the Penthouse club in Vegas to not only be a great club, but to have some killer top-notch girls ;) I had a great time there, way moreso than any other club I've been to there yet.

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                                          • Darrell
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 803

                                            #22
                                            Aren't Penthouse already public trading as Penthouse International Inc. PHSL ?

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                                            • Atticus
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                                              • Dec 2004
                                              • 1051

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                              Heh I dunno, I found the Penthouse club in Vegas to not only be a great club, but to have some killer top-notch girls ;) I had a great time there, way moreso than any other club I've been to there yet.
                                              The girls were good. I was more talking about the environment. They basically just took a run down crappy strip club and put the Penthouse name up outside and threw in some Penthouse matchbooks.

                                              On the flip side Playboy went all out on their club at the Palms. Of course Playboy Club isnt a strip club but quality wise its night and day compared to the Penthouse Club.

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                                              • AmeliaG
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                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 10667

                                                #24
                                                I wish a company could just say they were doing some awesome stuff and hoped to go public with massive success. Why do they need to put it in competitive terms? Just looks like insecurity to me, when people do that.
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                                                • LadyMischief
                                                  Orgasms N Such!
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 18135

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Atticus
                                                  The girls were good. I was more talking about the environment. They basically just took a run down crappy strip club and put the Penthouse name up outside and threw in some Penthouse matchbooks.

                                                  On the flip side Playboy went all out on their club at the Palms. Of course Playboy Club isnt a strip club but quality wise its night and day compared to the Penthouse Club.
                                                  Ummm...were we at the same club? It totally had the Penthouse feel as far as I was concerned.. but maybe I was just distracted by all the hot women in my lap. :P

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                                                  • Pornwolf
                                                    Drunk and Unruly
                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 22712

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Chest Rockwell
                                                    They overpaid for AFF
                                                    They only overpaid if it was all cash.

                                                    Something tells me it wasn't all cash.
                                                    I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

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                                                    • tony299
                                                      lurker
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 57021

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                      They only overpaid if it was all cash.

                                                      Something tells me it wasn't all cash.
                                                      I read cash and securities. So that can go many ways.

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                                                      • Bojangles
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                                                        • Apr 2007
                                                        • 5419

                                                        #28
                                                        That's a very bold statement.

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                                                        • mechanicvirus
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                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 4135

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                                          I wish a company could just say they were doing some awesome stuff and hoped to go public with massive success. Why do they need to put it in competitive terms? Just looks like insecurity to me, when people do that.
                                                          Because the whole industry is a dick waving contest.

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                                                          • xmas13
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                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                            • 5176

                                                            #30
                                                            Well, i'd like to download their financials.
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                                                            • xmas13
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                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                              • 5176

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by mechanicvirus
                                                              Because the whole industry is a dick waving contest.
                                                              Shhh, don't say nothing. You are in the Church of Pornographers.

                                                              The industry has more unwritten rules and secrets than a room full of Church goers.
                                                              Last edited by xmas13; 02-10-2008, 02:32 PM.
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                                                              • directfiesta
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                                                                • Oct 2002
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                                                                #32
                                                                Interactive Brand Development, Inc. (IBDI) is a media company that owns interests in online and offline media properties. Through its wholly owned operating subsidiary, Internet Billing Company, the Company processes online credit card payments for more than 26 million users and manages consumer databases primarily of individuals purchasing services and/or goods over the internet. IBDI has minority ownership of Interactive Television Networks, Inc (OTCBB:ITTV), formerly XTV, a video over IP new media company that broadcasts video to standard television sets and operates a pay-TV on-demand network. IBDI also owns a 34.7% interest in Penthouse Media Group (PMG), publisher of Penthouse Magazine, a brand-driven global entertainment business founded in 1965 by Robert C. Guccione. PMG's flagship PENTHOUSE(TM) brand is one of the most recognized consumer brands in the world and is widely identified with premium entertainment for adult audiences. PMG is operated by affiliates of Marc Bell Capital Partners, LLC.
                                                                wonder where he got his money ....
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                                                                • cams2chat
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                                                                  • Oct 2005
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                  They only overpaid if it was all cash.

                                                                  Something tells me it wasn't all cash.
                                                                  Have to be cash/stock and if its to go public they didnt overpay. AFF is a great fit

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                                                                  • mpahlca
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                                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                                    • 1821

                                                                    #34
                                                                    hmm well when they took penthouse and Ibill to an IPO last time he made a killing and his investors did not, so enjoy all those who buy shares :D
                                                                    I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                                                                    • Christina Muller
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                                                                      • Mar 2007
                                                                      • 923

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I personally wouldnt buy shares if it went public,I think a lot of these deals ususally end up not making much for the smaller investor .

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                                                                      • Spunky
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                                                                        • Jun 2002
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Time will tell..thinking it's a litle too late maybe

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                                                                        • Fap
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          those are bold words

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                                                                          • Bojangles
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by banthis
                                                                            those are bold words
                                                                            We think alike.

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