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  • MrMaxwell
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2005
    • 10057

    #1

    Jesus Christ- TRADING sure gets confusing.

    After almost a half of an hour of reading, this is the best sense I can make of it all. Thank god I didn't have a position. I learned more about OTC trading from reading posts between April 17 and today than I have in months reading other shit:

    http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/BOPT/chart

    http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards...ge_id=87181077

    My post there, in case some moron deletes it (they do that all the time on bihub)

    Am I getting this all figured out? I'm very new to trading but


    1. Infamous SMA pump

    2. Unlike most SMA pumps they didn't even manage to run the PPS up before it crashed (I understand a lot of pumps don't have to raise the PPS in order to be successful- sometimes they just keep the price stable or from completely crashing while insiders dump a trillion shares)

    3. There is this U3 halt by FINRA

    4. Some people argued about it being a HALT and NOT a SUSPENSION

    5. Some people argued about it going grey, which it ended up doing

    6. Miss Angel has been e-mailing the company and they denied that any insider selling happened

    7. Somewhere along the way I learned why SHORT data is such BS. I never realized that, the daily short volume has nothing to do with actual SHORT POSITIONS. Learning to make that distinction helps me A LOT because all I knew before was that I didn't understand the REGSHo and all that ****. Now it makes more sense.

    8. Now some people think there will be a huge short squeeze, but then someone said the float is too small to cover the shorts, but the float is 40M and not the 10M someone said AND the actual short positions are nowhere near as large as everyone thought OR we just don't know

    9. A company has only been U3 halted once and that was in 2011

    10. The vast majority of companies never come back from being grey, but, a select few still manage to trade back up

    11. I'm completely lost but this sure is interesting- please correct me if I have any of this wrong

    12. Meanwhile I Completely left out the part about the transfer agent!! Did they really leave themselves without a transfer agent?!! That could very definitely be why this happened!


    As an aside, it's interesting that it's still on SMA website at http://www.stockmauthority.com/thanks.html but no longer up at http://www.stockmauthority.com/stock-report/

    Also, when you think about it, all of the promoters agreed to a certain amount of (or a time frame of) promotion. Halt or no halt. They (should) technically "have to" keep promoting it.

    Also, is this traded on the Berlin Exchange where they allow unchecked shorting- or not? If so- how would we find out how much is short?
  • MrMaxwell
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2005
    • 10057

    #2
    I think I am figuring shit out fairly well because some well known person just told me a word I have never used!! He told me "Excellent Compendium."

    Someone didn't call me an idiot, on bihub. That is a huge accomplishment.

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    • MainstreamGuy
      So Fucking Banned
      • Oct 2011
      • 477

      #3
      The 5 Stages to Becoming a Profitable Trader


      1. Unconscious Incompetence- Brand new traders enter at this stage, full of excitement and overconfidence that they will amass riches overnight. ?How hard could it be? Price either goes up or down, right?? one may ask. The trader funds his account and starts quickly, taking lots of trades and unknowingly take on lots of risk. After a few initial successes, he is disappointed that price somehow turns on him every time he enters and he subsequently takes revenge by doubling up on new trades.

      2. Conscious Competence- After realizing how out of touch with the reality and danger of the market he was, the trader progresses to the next stage and sets out to educate himself by buying loads of systems, ebooks, and courses, searching for the ?holy grail.? The trader seeks advice and entry signals from other traders in forums who brag about their earnings and wonders why it?s not him.

      3. The ?Eureka? Moment- At this stage the trader finally realizes that it?s not necessarily the system that?s causing him to lose money, and that even a simple system that is based on how the market works and has a predictable edge can make money, so long as emotions are under control and the trader practices good money management. Once the trader realizes this, he/she can stop caring about what others are saying or trading and stick to one system. The trader executes trades with discipline every time an opportunity comes and doesn?t get disappointed by individual losses as it?s now a certainty that this type of trading will result in a profit over the long run. The light at the end of the tunnel is now visible.

      4. Conscious Competence- At the fourth stage the trader now makes trades whenever the system instructs him to, and the trader is fully accepting the risk involved. The trader furthermore cuts losses short and gets out with discipline when things get hairy in the market. Although it?s not quite second nature yet, he knows what it takes to be profitable and now manages to break-even.

      5. Unconscious Competence- Finally the trader has achieved victory! He has become so used to trading that it?s become natural. The trader is now able to pick really big trades and hold on to big winners with confidence. Furthermore, he has mastered his emotions and is now profitable.

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      • 2013
        So Fucking Banned
        • Dec 2012
        • 4390

        #4
        JC has nothing to do with your stupid threads

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        • slapass
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Nov 2002
          • 14625

          #5
          You are trading the stuff that is true garbage. Why bother? It is the arm pit of trading.

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          • MrMaxwell
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2005
            • 10057

            #6
            Originally posted by MainstreamGuy
            The 5 Stages to Becoming a Profitable Trader


            1. Unconscious Incompetence- Brand new traders enter at this stage, full of excitement and overconfidence that they will amass riches overnight. ?How hard could it be? Price either goes up or down, right?? one may ask. The trader funds his account and starts quickly, taking lots of trades and unknowingly take on lots of risk. After a few initial successes, he is disappointed that price somehow turns on him every time he enters and he subsequently takes revenge by doubling up on new trades.

            2. Conscious Competence- After realizing how out of touch with the reality and danger of the market he was, the trader progresses to the next stage and sets out to educate himself by buying loads of systems, ebooks, and courses, searching for the ?holy grail.? The trader seeks advice and entry signals from other traders in forums who brag about their earnings and wonders why it?s not him.

            3. The ?Eureka? Moment- At this stage the trader finally realizes that it?s not necessarily the system that?s causing him to lose money, and that even a simple system that is based on how the market works and has a predictable edge can make money, so long as emotions are under control and the trader practices good money management. Once the trader realizes this, he/she can stop caring about what others are saying or trading and stick to one system. The trader executes trades with discipline every time an opportunity comes and doesn?t get disappointed by individual losses as it?s now a certainty that this type of trading will result in a profit over the long run. The light at the end of the tunnel is now visible.

            4. Conscious Competence- At the fourth stage the trader now makes trades whenever the system instructs him to, and the trader is fully accepting the risk involved. The trader furthermore cuts losses short and gets out with discipline when things get hairy in the market. Although it?s not quite second nature yet, he knows what it takes to be profitable and now manages to break-even.

            5. Unconscious Competence- Finally the trader has achieved victory! He has become so used to trading that it?s become natural. The trader is now able to pick really big trades and hold on to big winners with confidence. Furthermore, he has mastered his emotions and is now profitable.


            I never had phase 1, at all. It's all crooked, It's all complex, I knew these things before I ever started reading anything.

            I never had phase 2, and don't fall for most gurus. I like Skyes because of his balls out style and his actual intelligence but I don't think it's easy to short.

            Phase 3, Never had that

            Phase 4, I'm getting there


            5: I never had to worry about the emotions of trading and never will. I admit when I am wrong extremely easily and can close a position. A lot of people can't, because they're stupid. Second nature? Give me a few years.

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            • edgeprod
              Permanently Gone
              • Mar 2004
              • 10019

              #7
              Buy: ZNGA, T, FB, and 1000 troy oz. of silver

              Check back here in 12 months with the results, including your dividends from T.

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              • MrMaxwell
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jul 2005
                • 10057

                #8
                Originally posted by edgeprod
                Buy: ZNGA, T, FB, and 1000 troy oz. of silver

                Check back here in 12 months with the results, including your dividends from T.
                ZNGA I made a little on but it didn't respond to the news about real money like I had hoped it would

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                • Dirty F
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 59204

                  #9
                  Unstable people with severe mental issues like you should not be trading.

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                  • Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE
                    Barterer
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 4864

                    #10
                    $152.95593 ?

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                    • DBS.US
                      Geo Cities
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 11843

                      #11
                      Originally posted by edgeprod
                      Buy: ZNGA, T, FB, and 1000 troy oz. of silver

                      Check back here in 12 months with the results, including your dividends from T.

                      My 12 month picks:

                      Fannie Mae (FNMA) now is $ 0.8200 http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/FNMA
                      Kb Home (KBH) now is $21.97 http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/KBH
                      Citigroup Inc. (C) now is $47.12 http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/C
                      Bank Of America Corp. (BAC) now is $12.31 http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/BAC
                      Ford Motor Company (F) now is $13.33 http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/F
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                      • MrMaxwell
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 10057

                        #12
                        Here's one to keep an eye on, too http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/wtw/interactive-chart

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                        • DBS.US
                          Geo Cities
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 11843

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MrMaxwell
                          Here's one to keep an eye on, too http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/wtw/interactive-chart
                          Weight Watchers International Inc WTW $42.00 http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/WTW
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                          • MainstreamGuy
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 477

                            #14
                            Buy Kodak.

                            Stay away from FaceBook as much as you can. Who can be so stupid to buy Facebook, when people LOST thousands of millions the first month it went out.

                            And forget about Day Trading. Day Trading is gambling. If you want to invest, you should have a minimum of 3 month span. Ideal is 1 year. Buy/Sell now and look for 1 year horizon.
                            Last edited by MainstreamGuy; 04-24-2013, 07:07 PM.

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                            • edgeprod
                              Permanently Gone
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 10019

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DBS.US
                              My 12 month picks:

                              Fannie Mae (FNMA) now is $ 0.8200 http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/FNMA
                              Kb Home (KBH) now is $21.97 http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/KBH
                              Citigroup Inc. (C) now is $47.12 http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/C
                              Bank Of America Corp. (BAC) now is $12.31 http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/BAC
                              Ford Motor Company (F) now is $13.33 http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/F
                              Let's meet back here in 3, 6, 9, and 12 months -- it'll be interesting!

                              I'm holding everything I recommended. I'll pick up some of yours for fun, too.

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                              • DBS.US
                                Geo Cities
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 11843

                                #16
                                Originally posted by edgeprod
                                Let's meet back here in 3, 6, 9, and 12 months -- it'll be interesting!

                                I'm holding everything I recommended. I'll pick up some of yours for fun, too.
                                Cool,

                                Todays prices for later reference. April 24, 2013
                                Zynga Inc. (ZNGA) $3.35
                                AT&T Inc. (T) $37.04
                                Facebook Inc (FB)$26.11
                                Oz Silver $23.49


                                Eastman Kodak Co (OTCQB:EKDKQ) $0.307
                                Last edited by DBS.US; 04-24-2013, 08:09 PM.
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                                • Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                  Barterer
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 4864

                                  #17
                                  Bitcoin's $155.

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                                  • DBS.US
                                    Geo Cities
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 11843

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by MainstreamGuy
                                    Buy Kodak.

                                    Stay away from FaceBook as much as you can. Who can be so stupid to buy Facebook, when people LOST thousands of millions the first month it went out.

                                    And forget about Day Trading. Day Trading is gambling. If you want to invest, you should have a minimum of 3 month span. Ideal is 1 year. Buy/Sell now and look for 1 year horizon.

                                    Normally I stay away from companies that have filed bankruptcy, but I did make a nice return on America Airlines after buying them six months ago after they filed bankruptcy. https://www.google.com/finance?cid=13640564
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                                    • bigluv
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2008
                                      • 850

                                      #19
                                      Just wanted to say, the bright spot of this post for me was, that you go on other forums. Good job, keep it up.

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                                      • edgeprod
                                        Permanently Gone
                                        • Mar 2004
                                        • 10019

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DBS.US
                                        Normally I stay away from companies that have filed bankruptcy, but I did make a nice return on America Airlines after buying them six months ago after they filed bankruptcy. https://www.google.com/finance?cid=13640564
                                        I look for companies that have more upside than downside. Google, for example, can lose 50% value (as it did a couple of years ago) as easily as it can gain 20%. AT&T (T) not only pays a healthy dividend, it has a good balance sheet and has been a steady earner for me since I bought it around $19, and again in the $20's.

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                                        • seoxpertz
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2011
                                          • 144

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MainstreamGuy
                                          The 5 Stages to Becoming a Profitable Trader


                                          1. Unconscious Incompetence- Brand new traders enter at this stage, full of excitement and overconfidence that they will amass riches overnight. ?How hard could it be? Price either goes up or down, right?? one may ask. The trader funds his account and starts quickly, taking lots of trades and unknowingly take on lots of risk. After a few initial successes, he is disappointed that price somehow turns on him every time he enters and he subsequently takes revenge by doubling up on new trades.

                                          2. Conscious Competence- After realizing how out of touch with the reality and danger of the market he was, the trader progresses to the next stage and sets out to educate himself by buying loads of systems, ebooks, and courses, searching for the ?holy grail.? The trader seeks advice and entry signals from other traders in forums who brag about their earnings and wonders why it?s not him.

                                          3. The ?Eureka? Moment- At this stage the trader finally realizes that it?s not necessarily the system that?s causing him to lose money, and that even a simple system that is based on how the market works and has a predictable edge can make money, so long as emotions are under control and the trader practices good money management. Once the trader realizes this, he/she can stop caring about what others are saying or trading and stick to one system. The trader executes trades with discipline every time an opportunity comes and doesn?t get disappointed by individual losses as it?s now a certainty that this type of trading will result in a profit over the long run. The light at the end of the tunnel is now visible.

                                          4. Conscious Competence- At the fourth stage the trader now makes trades whenever the system instructs him to, and the trader is fully accepting the risk involved. The trader furthermore cuts losses short and gets out with discipline when things get hairy in the market. Although it?s not quite second nature yet, he knows what it takes to be profitable and now manages to break-even.

                                          5. Unconscious Competence- Finally the trader has achieved victory! He has become so used to trading that it?s become natural. The trader is now able to pick really big trades and hold on to big winners with confidence. Furthermore, he has mastered his emotions and is now profitable.
                                          Really wise words mate.
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                                          • edgeprod
                                            Permanently Gone
                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 10019

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DBS.US
                                            Cool,

                                            Todays prices for later reference. April 24, 2013
                                            Zynga Inc. (ZNGA) $3.35
                                            AT&T Inc. (T) $37.04
                                            Facebook Inc (FB)$26.11
                                            Oz Silver $23.49

                                            Eastman Kodak Co (OTCQB:EKDKQ) $0.307
                                            Checking in a bit after 6 months ...

                                            As of this moment:

                                            Zynga Inc. (ZNGA) $4.41
                                            AT&T Inc. (T) $35.32 (with thousands in dividends paid already)
                                            Facebook Inc (FB)$47.00
                                            Oz Silver $20.34 (buy more!)

                                            Hope you guys took my recommendations and bought them.

                                            Your pick of Eastman Kodak is at 0.02, a fairly dramatic drop.

                                            We'll check again at the 12-month mark.

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                                            • slapass
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Nov 2002
                                              • 14625

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by edgeprod
                                              Buy: ZNGA, T, FB, and 1000 troy oz. of silver

                                              Check back here in 12 months with the results, including your dividends from T.
                                              Not too bad

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                                              • keysync
                                                Living the Dream
                                                • Sep 2011
                                                • 2375

                                                #24
                                                Eastman Kodak stock just now. $23.23
                                                http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=KODK


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                                                • edgeprod
                                                  Permanently Gone
                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 10019

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by keysync
                                                  Eastman Kodak stock just now. $23.23
                                                  http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=KODK
                                                  That's not the same security.

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                                                  • bronco67
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                    • 29032

                                                    #26
                                                    Some people like to work for their money....some gamble.

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                                                    • edgeprod
                                                      Permanently Gone
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 10019

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by bronco67
                                                      Some people like to work for their money....some gamble.
                                                      Some do both.

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