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  • clickhappy
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    • Mar 2004
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    #1

    web designers: is it better to use tables or css grids?

    when you design sites do you use grids, or html tables for the layout?
  • jawanda
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    • Feb 2003
    • 6040

    #2
    Been a web designer for 16 years ... just had to look up 'CSS grids'. Lolz. I use divs

    Every project is a combination of floated divs, inline-blocks, absolute-positioned elements, and quite often even a static element or two.
    Last edited by jawanda; 04-20-2013, 05:24 PM.

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    • Dankasaur
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      • Sep 2011
      • 1432

      #3
      Tables are for tabular data.

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      • Vendzilla
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        • Mar 2004
        • 23200

        #4
        divs, no tables
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        • CyberHustler
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          #5
          depends.....
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          • Mr Pheer
            So Fucking Banned
            • Dec 2002
            • 22082

            #6
            Divs are better, but I can do tables so much faster.

            Just depends on what I'm doing and how much of a hurry I am in at the moment.

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            • anexsia
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              • May 2010
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              #7
              Real men use tables, frames, and copious amounts of animated .gifs for web design.

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              • sarettah
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                • Oct 2002
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                #8
                Originally posted by anexsia
                Real men use tables, frames, and copious amounts of animated .gifs for web design.
                Don't forget the .wavs.

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                • harvey
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                  • Jul 2001
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by anexsia
                  Real men use tables, frames, and copious amounts of animated .gifs for web design.
                  Quoted for truth

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                  • Some Guy
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                    • Dec 2001
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                    #10
                    I've been designing sites for thirteen years and I've always used tables and divs. No CSS grids for me. Hell, I don't even know what a CSS grid is. Doh!

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                    • Fetish Gimp
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                      • Feb 2005
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by sarettah
                      Don't forget the .wavs.

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                      • harvey
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                        #12
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                        • adult-help
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                          #13
                          oh wow did you really ask this question in 2013?
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                          • sarettah
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Fetish Gimp
                            And to give it that professional touch a liberal helping of rainbow-colored blink-tagged titles. Fuck yeah.
                            Damn straight, if it doesn't trigger a seizure then it is a shit design

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                            • Colmike9
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fetish Gimp
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                              • harvey
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                                • Jul 2001
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by TubeVideoAPI
                                Tables are for tabular data.
                                tables are for dinner. period.

                                Any decent designer and coder knows how to use divs for tabular data. Furthermore, divs allows to do things with tabular data in advanced UI/UX that are simply impossible with tables
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                                • Dankasaur
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                                  • Sep 2011
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by harvey
                                  tables are for dinner. period.

                                  Any decent designer and coder knows how to use divs for tabular data. Furthermore, divs allows to do things with tabular data in advanced UI/UX that are simply impossible with tables

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                                  • harvey
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                                    • Jul 2001
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TubeVideoAPI
                                    Any decent designer and coder knows how to use divs for tabular data. Furthermore, divs allows to do things with tabular data in advanced UI/UX that are simply impossible with tables

                                    do you see it now dumb kitty?
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                                    • Dankasaur
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by harvey
                                      Any decent designer and coder knows how to use divs for tabular data. Furthermore, divs allows to do things with tabular data in advanced UI/UX that are simply impossible with tables

                                      do you see it now dumb kitty?

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                                      • harvey
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TubeVideoAPI
                                        OK, please enlighten me as to how am I wrong
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                                        • d-null
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                                          • Apr 2007
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                                          #21

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                                          • Dankasaur
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                                            • Sep 2011
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by harvey
                                            OK, please enlighten me as to how am I wrong
                                            Tables are for tabular data, what the deuce are you doing with your tabular data, that tables are not needed but instead you style divs to mimic tables for?

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                                            • harvey
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                                              • Jul 2001
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by TubeVideoAPI
                                              Tables are for tabular data, what the deuce are you doing with your tabular data, that tables are not needed but instead you style divs to mimic tables for?
                                              OK, I'll tell W3C to ditch the following, they were wrong since 2004

                                              [table-header-group|table-footer-group] These values cause the element to behave like the corresponding THEAD and TFOOT HTML table elements which these values take their name from.
                                              table These values cause the element to behave like the corresponding HTML table element which these values take their name from. The ?inline-table? value does not have a direct mapping in HTML.
                                              inline-table These values cause the element to behave like the corresponding HTML table element which these values take their name from. The ?inline-table? value does not have a direct mapping in HTML.
                                              table-caption These values cause the element to behave like the corresponding HTML table element which these values take their name from. The ?inline-table? value does not have a direct mapping in HTML.
                                              table-cell These values cause the element to behave like the corresponding HTML table element which these values take their name from. The ?inline-table? value does not have a direct mapping in HTML.
                                              table-row|table-row-group These values cause the element to behave like the corresponding HTML table element which these values take their name from. The ?inline-table? value does not have a direct mapping in HTML.
                                              table-column|table-column-group These values cause the element to behave like the corresponding HTML table element which these values take their name from. The ?inline-table? value does not have a direct mapping in HTML.
                                              sorry for the confusion, I thought these idiots knew what were they talking about, my bad
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                                              • Manfap
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                                                #24
                                                Scary that designers say they dont know what a css grid is.
                                                so you´ve never looked at 960 or anything similar.

                                                I know with responsive, the grid isn´t as useful as it used to be, but a good % based grid is still a good place to start.

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                                                • HomerSimpson
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                                                  • Sep 2005
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                                                  #25
                                                  divs - smaller html, easier to maintain and modify... css can sometimes be a bitch but once you figure things out it will work just good...
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                                                    #26
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                                                    • clickhappy
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by PikaPoka
                                                      thats what I say.
                                                      And I'd rather use Dreamweaver instead of coding by hand. Why spend all day coding a page when you can spend an hour and it comes out perfect after.

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                                                      • harvey
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Manfap
                                                        Scary that designers say they dont know what a css grid is.
                                                        so you´ve never looked at 960 or anything similar.

                                                        I know with responsive, the grid isn´t as useful as it used to be, but a good % based grid is still a good place to start.
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                                                        • Cash4Me
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Manfap
                                                          Scary that designers say they dont know what a css grid is.
                                                          so you´ve never looked at 960 or anything similar.

                                                          I know with responsive, the grid isn´t as useful as it used to be, but a good % based grid is still a good place to start.
                                                          Responsiveness and grid design patterns are fully tied. The grid comes necessary in the boostrap phase of project then responsiveness is done with CSS and Media Queries.
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                                                          • harvey
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Cash4Me
                                                            Responsiveness and grid design patterns are fully tied. The grid comes necessary in the boostrap phase of project then responsiveness is done with CSS and Media Queries.
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                                                            Last edited by harvey; 04-21-2013, 01:06 PM.
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                                                            • The Dawg
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by anexsia
                                                              Real men use tables, frames, and copious amounts of animated .gifs for web design.
                                                              Originally posted by sarettah
                                                              Don't forget the .wavs.

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