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  • MJ_AVN
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2004
    • 665
    #1

    KSEX Dead?

    Looks like it...
    Killer story by my main man, Bourne.

    KSEX Halts Internet Broadcasting Indefinitely

    CHATSWORTH, Calif. - Internet-based radio and TV station KSEX closed its doors Monday, possibly for good.
    According to owner Jon Belinkie, the station struggled financially over the past 22 months.
    "I believe KSEX had been hurting monetarily since the death of its founder, Mick Rick, which was long before my involvement," Belinkie told AVN Online. "The constant battles with staff, on-air personalities and slow- to non-paying sponsors and advertisers hemorrhaged enough money to cripple the station, and I'm done."
    A deal for Vavoom Media Group to acquire KSEX fell apart on the eve of finalization, and the station's partnership with Rude.com proved volatile after Rude's $20,000 giveaway on KSEX in December 2007 collapsed into chaos.

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    • Joe BrainCash
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      • Mar 2006
      • 2092
      #2
      KSEX? oh what a relief..I thought you announced K-Fed was dead...That would have been a TRAGEDY. lol
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        • baddog
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 107089
          #3
          I thought Porno Dan and xxx jay were saving it from the eventual demise.

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            • DigitalDruid
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2007
              • 647
              #4
              sounds like a cool show, too bad

              Get on here and make some ca$h

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                • wdsguy
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                  • Dec 2002
                  • 19568
                  #5
                  about time

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                    • RedShoe
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                      • Feb 2001
                      • 14831
                      #6
                      Originally posted by baddog
                      I thought Porno Dan and xxx jay were saving it from the eventual demise.
                      You thought that? I thought you knew better. Only believe half of what you read here on GFY.

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                        • RedShoe
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                          • Feb 2001
                          • 14831
                          #7
                          But, what was this 20K giveway that turned into chaos? I'm curios. I want to read more or hear it? Did it play out on the radio?

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                            • Hollywood Horwitz
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                              • Dec 2003
                              • 4357
                              #8
                              Originally posted by BrainPat
                              KSEX? oh what a relief..I thought you announced K-Fed was dead...That would have been a TRAGEDY. lol
                              Kfed is alive and well, no worries. ha
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                                • xxxjay
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                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 13482
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by MJ_AVN
                                  Looks like it...
                                  Killer story by my main man, Bourne.

                                  KSEX Halts Internet Broadcasting Indefinitely

                                  CHATSWORTH, Calif. - Internet-based radio and TV station KSEX closed its doors Monday, possibly for good.
                                  According to owner Jon Belinkie, the station struggled financially over the past 22 months.
                                  "I believe KSEX had been hurting monetarily since the death of its founder, Mick Rick, which was long before my involvement," Belinkie told AVN Online. "The constant battles with staff, on-air personalities and slow- to non-paying sponsors and advertisers hemorrhaged enough money to cripple the station, and I'm done."
                                  A deal for Vavoom Media Group to acquire KSEX fell apart on the eve of finalization, and the station's partnership with Rude.com proved volatile after Rude's $20,000 giveaway on KSEX in December 2007 collapsed into chaos.

                                  Read the rest: http://avn.com/index.cfm?objectid=EB...930F96F26065D6
                                  Well, if he is blaming it on rude.com (and me) then that should be a warning to those who would consider doing business with them in the furture.

                                  They've built and empire on content theft and took ksex down with them!
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                                    • Tempest
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • May 2004
                                      • 10217
                                      #10
                                      No big surprise.. didn't seem like anyone over there actually knew how to run the thing.. Just look at the fucked up website.. LOL

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                                        • FlexxAeon
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2003
                                          • 3765
                                          #11
                                          wow....he's still spinning....amazing....
                                          flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

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                                            • seeric
                                              ..........
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 41917
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by MJ_AVN
                                              Looks like it...
                                              Killer story by my main man, Bourne.

                                              KSEX Halts Internet Broadcasting Indefinitely

                                              CHATSWORTH, Calif. - Internet-based radio and TV station KSEX closed its doors Monday, possibly for good.
                                              According to owner Jon Belinkie, the station struggled financially over the past 22 months.
                                              "I believe KSEX had been hurting monetarily since the death of its founder, Mick Rick, which was long before my involvement," Belinkie told AVN Online. "The constant battles with staff, on-air personalities and slow- to non-paying sponsors and advertisers hemorrhaged enough money to cripple the station, and I'm done."
                                              A deal for Vavoom Media Group to acquire KSEX fell apart on the eve of finalization, and the station's partnership with Rude.com proved volatile after Rude's $20,000 giveaway on KSEX in December 2007 collapsed into chaos.

                                              Read the rest: http://avn.com/index.cfm?objectid=EB...930F96F26065D6



                                              the site fucking blew balls. i told everyone how bad it sucked. i couldnt get it to work half the time and i'm an internet person. i can only imagine what their bounce % looked like.

                                              seriously. the site was 80% of the problem.

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                                                • seeric
                                                  ..........
                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                  • 41917
                                                  #13
                                                  ok i gott dig a little here.

                                                  i could run that thing from my living room at home on a cable modem. what was the overhead really?

                                                  internet radio doesn't cost shit to broadcast.

                                                  how were they hemorrhaging money exactly. well, rent for their building which you could shit can and take the operation into one of the media companies.

                                                  i dont get it.

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                                                    • FlexxAeon
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 3765
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                      the site fucking blew balls. i told everyone how bad it sucked. i couldnt get it to work half the time and i'm an internet person. i can only imagine what their bounce % looked like.

                                                      seriously. the site was 80% of the problem.
                                                      was this when the site had that "social networking" approach to it?
                                                      flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

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                                                        • seeric
                                                          ..........
                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                          • 41917
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by FlexxAeon
                                                          was this when the site had that "social networking" approach to it?
                                                          nah, it was more like the site from 1996 that kept on giving. nothing works. its a battle navigating, usability is ridiculous, their streaming setup is really buggy.

                                                          i think that dan and jay were the best thing to ever happen to them, but too little too late there.

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                                                            • FlexxAeon
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2003
                                                              • 3765
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                              ok i gott dig a little here.

                                                              i could run that thing from my living room at home on a cable modem. what was the overhead really?

                                                              internet radio doesn't cost shit to broadcast.

                                                              how were they hemorrhaging money exactly. well, rent for their building which you could shit can and take the operation into one of the media companies.

                                                              i dont get it.
                                                              "hemorrhaging" is an overstatement....i think the site was "losing lots of potential money".... but Jon's pockets might have been hemorrhaging, yeah...
                                                              flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

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                                                                • seeric
                                                                  ..........
                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                  • 41917
                                                                  #17
                                                                  WOOFYS CARNIVAL



                                                                  COMING SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



                                                                  I'll show you radio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                                                    • FlexxAeon
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 3765
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                      nah, it was more like the site from 1996 that kept on giving. nothing works. its a battle navigating, usability is ridiculous, their streaming setup is really buggy.

                                                                      i think that dan and jay were the best thing to ever happen to them, but too little too late there.
                                                                      yeah....during the time i was there i fixed a bunch of errors....the hits shot up like crazy lol.

                                                                      i don't think they realized the power they had sitting right there with jay & dan. meeeelions of trafficks. but yeah, ur right, it was too far gone at that point
                                                                      flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

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                                                                        • AK
                                                                          MadZuma
                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                          • 6436
                                                                          #19
                                                                          a1rekradio.com coming soon! lol
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                                                                            • seeric
                                                                              ..........
                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                              • 41917
                                                                              #20
                                                                              i really dont mean to jump up and down on the grave, but many of us tried to give advice, web people, no one listened. the first thing they shoulda fixed was the usability. my personal opinion was everyone was too wrapped up in being cool and being on the radio and making names for themselves. oh well, end my input. my bad.

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                                                                                • sltr
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                  • 3191
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  peeps been tryin to save ksex for a looong loong time now.

                                                                                  long time!

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                                                                                    • Tempest
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • May 2004
                                                                                      • 10217
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                      i could run that thing from my living room at home on a cable modem. what was the overhead really?
                                                                                      No shit...
                                                                                      Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                      how were they hemorrhaging money exactly.
                                                                                      How do most people fuck up in this biz? booze and drugs most likely..

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                                                                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                          • 30307
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                          WOOFYS CARNIVAL
                                                                                          I'll show you radio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                                                          I invented Internet radio.

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                                                                                            • Martha_WildCash
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                                                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                                                              • 231
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by BrainPat
                                                                                              KSEX? oh what a relief..I thought you announced K-Fed was dead...That would have been a TRAGEDY. lol
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                                                                                                • Jace
                                                                                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                                  • 35562
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  they had a HUGE studio to run an INTERNET RADIO STATION....that was the first of MANY issues

                                                                                                  what they did could have been run from a living room

                                                                                                  I had been there plenty of times to know what they had was OVERKILL....expensive mics, mixing boards, a FULL radio station setup for a fucking INTERNET RADIO SHOW

                                                                                                  hey ksex failures, want some advice for the future, check out www.breaksfm.com or www.ibreaks.co.uk

                                                                                                  those are both websites run a from a server, not a studio, and they have hundreds of dj's that play monthly with no studio needed! and ALL the dj's talk and play music, plus they have commercials....gosh, whodathunk?

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                                                                                                    • NosMo
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Mar 2007
                                                                                                      • 1025
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                                      ok i gott dig a little here.

                                                                                                      i could run that thing from my living room at home on a cable modem. what was the overhead really?

                                                                                                      i dont get it.

                                                                                                      Hmm So who had the company credit card...?

                                                                                                      NosMo

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                                                                                                        • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                                          • 18975
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Sorry to hear that.
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                                                                                                            • FlexxAeon
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                              • 3765
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              ok i'm far from defending ksex, since it hasn't been what i knew for a while now but a few points:

                                                                                                              - a mix show of music can be pulled off from a tin can on skid row. a talk show with live video included cant (unless you're going for that "tin can on skid row" look)

                                                                                                              - the new studio was a whole lot larger than the old one. the older one, i think was just right (imo) not overkill, because...

                                                                                                              - it wasn't a one man show where music is played and one jockey talks to the world. there were always guests, and those guests were normally chicks who i'm sure would have been a lot more uncomfortable in a living room. Shit sometimes we had press....
                                                                                                              flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

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                                                                                                                • PointerAdv_Lindsay
                                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                                                                  • 56
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Ahh... Jon Belinkie. We worked for him for 4 months for free on the promise of back pay (in 2006). We were nice and tried to help him (yes, I know - stupid). He took his family to Hawaii for the holidays and called me 2 days before Christmas to tell me we that "Yeeeeeeaaaaahh, you won't be getting paid." He owes us $40,000. What a fucking charmer. Let me be the first one to bid him adieu. Get your fat fucking ass out of our industry.

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                                                                                                                    • Sly
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                                                                                                                      • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                      • 31379
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      I feel out of the loop. I don't even know what KSEX is.
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                                                                                                                        • baddog
                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                          • 107089
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                                          I feel out of the loop. I don't even know what KSEX is.
                                                                                                                          It was an adult radio station for surfers.

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                                                                                                                            • TheSenator
                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                              • 13330
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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                                                                                                                                • tony299
                                                                                                                                  lurker
                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 57021
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Jace
                                                                                                                                  they had a HUGE studio to run an INTERNET RADIO STATION....that was the first of MANY issues

                                                                                                                                  what they did could have been run from a living room

                                                                                                                                  I had been there plenty of times to know what they had was OVERKILL....expensive mics, mixing boards, a FULL radio station setup for a fucking INTERNET RADIO SHOW

                                                                                                                                  hey ksex failures, want some advice for the future, check out www.breaksfm.com or www.ibreaks.co.uk

                                                                                                                                  those are both websites run a from a server, not a studio, and they have hundreds of dj's that play monthly with no studio needed! and ALL the dj's talk and play music, plus they have commercials....gosh, whodathunk?
                                                                                                                                  i see it now jace's living room political talk and great mixes.

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                                                                                                                                    • jay23
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 1444
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      I thought Adam and Eve owned KSEX ?

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                                                                                                                                        • Jace
                                                                                                                                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 35562
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                          i see it now jace's living room political talk and great mixes.
                                                                                                                                          haha, yeah, right

                                                                                                                                          personally, aside from what was said above, I think it would be funny and CHEAP as hell to have pornstars do their show from their OWN bedrooms or living rooms...a webcam, some phone setups, guests (hell, most porn stars I know party with other porn stars in their houses....

                                                                                                                                          ksex killed themselves with overdoing everything for an "internet radio show"

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                                                                                                                                            • FreeHugeMovies
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                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 14141
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Webmaster radio is a joke

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                                                                                                                                                • Jace
                                                                                                                                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                  • 35562
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
                                                                                                                                                  Webmaster radio is a joke
                                                                                                                                                  there is nothing about webmaster radio in this thread

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                                                                                                                                                    • seeric
                                                                                                                                                      ..........
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 41917
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Jace
                                                                                                                                                      there is nothing about webmaster radio in this thread


                                                                                                                                                      good observation.

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                                                                                                                                                        • webair
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                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 8531
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          ouch man bad management i guess...


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                                                                                                                                                            • Persius
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                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 11779
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              there is no money in webmaster radio

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                                                                                                                                                                • FlexxAeon
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 3765
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by jay23
                                                                                                                                                                  I thought Adam and Eve owned KSEX ?
                                                                                                                                                                  they did at one point. it was out of their hands the last year or two
                                                                                                                                                                  flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

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                                                                                                                                                                    • baddog
                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 107089
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
                                                                                                                                                                      Webmaster radio is a joke
                                                                                                                                                                      As are people that can not follow a conversation.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • ChefJeff
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 1499
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Enjoy... a short best of moments from my time at KSEX... http://www.weshootcontent.com/vids/chefjeff_ksex.wmv

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Sebastian Sands
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                                                              • 5223
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by jay23
                                                                                                                                                                              I thought Adam and Eve owned KSEX ?
                                                                                                                                                                              I don't think they ever owned it. They were the top sponsor for a long time, but I think that was the extend of it.

                                                                                                                                                                              Sebs

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                                                                                                                                                                                • ChefJeff
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 1499
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by FlexxAeon
                                                                                                                                                                                  they did at one point. it was out of their hands the last year or two
                                                                                                                                                                                  Hey Flexx,

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • NETbilling
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 8598
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      I remember Mike Rick - RIP

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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                          I thought Porno Dan and xxx jay were saving it from the eventual demise.
                                                                                                                                                                                          So did eye.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Porno Dan
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 6342
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Sorry for the delay in responding.

                                                                                                                                                                                              KSEX.com was worth losing $20,000 a month, they had a large studio, a full time program manager, asst. program manager, paid PJ's and a full time tech.

                                                                                                                                                                                              The owner tried to sell KSEX has one business unit; unfortunately he was unable to do so. He is now in the process of selling off the different business units: content, domain names and, the equipment.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • cherrylula
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 15969
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by sltr
                                                                                                                                                                                                  peeps been tryin to save ksex for a looong loong time now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  long time!
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I remember them from the 90's, I was amazed they were still around!

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I've talked to many porn girls who have nothing but terrible shit to say about them too. But porn drama kept them alive.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 7515
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      My care factor on this breaking news: 0/10

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