Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

A few things to consider here:

1. We can try all we want (excellent work Mike) but still we'll never know exactly what money went where and came from whom. So ultimately, it's all speculation.

2. The game ain't over til it's over. - Yogi Berra

3. Downsizing is always an option for the Manwin properties. It will hurt people's jobs (and lives) but the company could sell off assets, obtain partners, find additional funding sources, etc.

4. Only laws will bring back "the good ole' days" (and never entirely). Manwin proved one thing if nothing else, that the tube site model works (for them). Others will continue to employ that business model to varying degrees of success and failure.

5. Hang in there people, it's going to (continue to) be a wild ride.