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  • ADL Colin
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Feb 2001
    • 11929

    #151
    Originally posted by NoComments
    Colin,
    we all mellow with age
    ;)

    BTW, did you KNOW the painting was Pollock, or was it a lucky coinsedence?
    coincidence.

    Good flick. Have you seen it? You'd like it.


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    • Zango
      So Fucking Banned
      • Oct 2006
      • 511

      #152
      I love the guys who CRY about a $63.83 check and make threats to out you to everyone on the boards, only to find out THEY put the wrong mailing address on the form when they signed up.

      You tools should stick to taking orders are Burger King.

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      • NoComments
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2005
        • 4957

        #153
        of course I did and enjoyed it tremendously! Anything else you've seen good lately?
        Our latest very good discovery was Harakiri, 1966 Japanese movie
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        • NoComments
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2005
          • 4957

          #154
          Originally posted by Zango
          I love the guys who CRY about a $63.83 check and make threats to out you to everyone on the boards, only to find out THEY put the wrong mailing address on the form when they signed up.

          You tools should stick to taking orders are Burger King.

          Bad advice, I am still fuming over one's dork mistake who put mayo instead of ketchup with fries!
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          • Quagmire
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2005
            • 6490

            #155
            Originally posted by 12clicks
            don't bitch when your check is a day or two late. Seriously, even if it isn't true, at least PRETEND you're not spending every single penny you make and can't survive if your payment doesn't come the exact day you expect it.
            at least pretend your a business person!
            One of the most important things you can do to be taken seriously is to act seriously.
            I agree with you 100% on that statement, but had to make a funny comment.

            Only in this industry could someone make a comment about acting seriously to be taken seriously and have a banner of a guy shitting gold coins right below it.

            I fuckin' love it.

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            • ADL Colin
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Feb 2001
              • 11929

              #156
              Originally posted by NoComments
              of course I did and enjoyed it tremendously! Anything else you've seen good lately?
              Our latest very good discovery was Harakiri, 1966 Japanese movie
              Nothing really stands out. Apocalypto, but I'm sure you've seen that and it is a few years old now.

              BTW. I really liked "Everything is Illuminated". I think you were the one who recommended it.


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              • 12clicks
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2001
                • 19814

                #157
                all I've ever done in this business is attempt to deliver cross-media paradigms and scale 24/365 applications so as to target next-generation e-tailers who have an eye towards the adult market.
                In that respect, we've been successful in synergizing sexy infomediaries and streamline front-end models and are now prepared to aggregate synergistic paradigms for the benefit of the entire adult market.
                We now intend to benchmark innovative metrics in an effort to unleash open-source action-items to deliver 24/7 experiences to our online partners.
                In this way we hope to scale innovative deliverables and harness cross-platform convergences as we move towards step three of our collaborative mindshare
                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                • NoComments
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 4957

                  #158
                  Apocalypto I couldn't finish. Historically the movie is a joke.
                  Everything is Illuminated" is a classic, the sound track is one of our favorite CD's.

                  Are you getting back to FL any time soon?
                  I miss our chess games.
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                  • 12clicks
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 19814

                    #159
                    Originally posted by Quagmire
                    I agree with you 100% on that statement, but had to make a funny comment.

                    Only in this industry could someone make a comment about acting seriously to be taken seriously and have a banner of a guy shitting gold coins right below it.

                    I fuckin' love it.

                    dude, there's one hard and fast rule in this business.
                    ass makes coin.
                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                    • NoComments
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 4957

                      #160
                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                      all I've ever done in this business is attempt to deliver cross-media paradigms and scale 24/365 applications so as to target next-generation e-tailers who have an eye towards the adult market.
                      In that respect, we've been successful in synergizing sexy infomediaries and streamline front-end models and are now prepared to aggregate synergistic paradigms for the benefit of the entire adult market.
                      We now intend to benchmark innovative metrics in an effort to unleash open-source action-items to deliver 24/7 experiences to our online partners.
                      In this way we hope to scale innovative deliverables and harness cross-platform convergences as we move towards step three of our collaborative mindshare

                      Finally somebody speaks my language I can understand.
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                      • testpie
                        Mostly retired
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 3231

                        #161
                        Originally posted by comeplay
                        the turn this thread has made is just funny seeing as 12clicks' other thread about racists and all the shit talking etc on this board
                        When exactly did this thread go from being about 12clicks telling kids not to complain to a full-scale bro-argument-orgy?

                        And more to the point, how shit am I if my sig, in prime place of post #2, still hasn't generated me any money?

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                        • Fletch XXX
                          GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 60840

                          #162
                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                          dude, there's one hard and fast rule in this business.
                          ass makes coin.
                          nice, - just registered www.assmakescoin.com

                          thank you

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                          • ADL Colin
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 11929

                            #163
                            Originally posted by NoComments
                            Are you getting back to FL any time soon?
                            I miss our chess games.
                            I'm in Central Florida again. I'll have to make it down. I haven't played chess since Kasparov game.


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                            • ADL Colin
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 11929

                              #164
                              Originally posted by NoComments
                              Apocalypto I couldn't finish. Historically the movie is a joke.
                              Well, I wasn't expecting history. I finished it twice.


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                              • CDSmith
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • May 2001
                                • 51460

                                #165
                                Originally posted by TexasDreams
                                It's threads like these that prove we don't need the NFL for Sunday entertainment.
                                Sure enough, I leave home for one weekend this winter and that's when Ron decides to take his show on the road.

                                :D
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                                • Juicy D. Links
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 122992

                                  #166
                                  Originally posted by NoComments
                                  Are you still in New York? We'll be in NJ in April, wanna get together?
                                  Yes!!! lmk when you coming

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                                  • notoldschool
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2007
                                    • 5687

                                    #167
                                    Originally posted by 12clicks
                                    I've been owning/running programs for 10 years. never heard of you. I guess we'll just take your word for it.
                                    I hope this is not true because I know more than ten amateur girls who dont know shit, who get more traffic than your whole program.

                                    Last edited by notoldschool; 01-28-2008, 06:43 AM.
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                                    • 12clicks
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 19814

                                      #168
                                      Originally posted by notoldschool
                                      I hope this is not true because I know more than ten amateur girls who dont know shit, who get more traffic than your whole program.

                                      well have them look me up at the next show, I'll include them all for dinner and they can tell me all about traffic.
                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                      • notoldschool
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2007
                                        • 5687

                                        #169
                                        Originally posted by 12clicks
                                        well have them look me up at the next show, I'll include them all for dinner and they can tell me all about traffic.
                                        I doubt you would listen.
                                        No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                        -- Learned Hand

                                        http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                        • 12clicks
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 19814

                                          #170
                                          Originally posted by notoldschool
                                          I doubt you would listen.
                                          and they said you were slow!

                                          You missed the main point but you did grasp the theme
                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                          • SykkBoy2
                                            Jesus loves bacon
                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 19969

                                            #171
                                            Originally posted by hateman
                                            LOL, everyone knows how these "testimonials" are born to life.

                                            12clicks buys you a drink at some convention, and all of the sudden he's a BRO.

                                            WTF??
                                            Ron, we do business together and you've never bought me a drink at a show...wait...do I write the testimonial before or after said drink?

                                            bah, fuck it, with the business we do together, we can afford our own drinks at APM...
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                                            • stev0
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2003
                                              • 6801

                                              #172
                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                              oh dear, yet another titan of industry preaching from his mom's house.

                                              Here's a little clue about respect, son. I'm not looking for respect from your kind. show up at an industry event where we business people meet and explain to me about this respect thing you think I'm so aware of
                                              haha, see... exactly what I was talking about. You have no idea who I am or what I do, yet you assume I'm some guy living in his mom's basement? Your lame ass program would love to have an affiliate that does half as many sales as I do. If you've been doing online adult for 10 years then I've been in this "business" for just as long as you. I've never been to an industry event, why would I? I work online. When I go on vacation a bunch of webmasters are the last people I want to hang around with (no offense to most of you, some webmasters are normal people... but there's a bunch of fucking weirdos in this line of work too).

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                                              • stev0
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2003
                                                • 6801

                                                #173
                                                Originally posted by Quagmire
                                                I agree with you 100% on that statement, but had to make a funny comment.

                                                Only in this industry could someone make a comment about acting seriously to be taken seriously and have a banner of a guy shitting gold coins right below it.

                                                I fuckin' love it.
                                                hahaha, so true

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                                                • 12clicks
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 19814

                                                  #174
                                                  Originally posted by stev0
                                                  haha, see... exactly what I was talking about. You have no idea who I am or what I do, yet you assume I'm some guy living in his mom's basement? Your lame ass program would love to have an affiliate that does half as many sales as I do. If you've been doing online adult for 10 years then I've been in this "business" for just as long as you. I've never been to an industry event, why would I? I work online. When I go on vacation a bunch of webmasters are the last people I want to hang around with (no offense to most of you, some webmasters are normal people... but there's a bunch of fucking weirdos in this line of work too).
                                                  son, I know exactly who/what you are and the fact that you think a webmaster event is some sort of vacation speaks volumes.
                                                  now how about you just run along, hone your pretend game and come back next time with your big boy voice.
                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                  • 12clicks
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 19814

                                                    #175
                                                    Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                    WTF??
                                                    Ron, we do business together and you've never bought me a drink at a show...wait...do I write the testimonial before or after said drink?

                                                    bah, fuck it, with the business we do together, we can afford our own drinks at APM...
                                                    Dude, I was going to ask you for a testimonial but I thought you'd end up gaying it up with that naked pic of you in the shower that shows up every time your name is mentioned.
                                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                    • SykkBoy2
                                                      Jesus loves bacon
                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                      • 19969

                                                      #176
                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                      Dude, I was going to ask you for a testimonial but I thought you'd end up gaying it up with that naked pic of you in the shower that shows up every time your name is mentioned.
                                                      well sure, that pic always has to accompany testimonials...it's not that the pic itself is gay...just that it makes straight men question their sexuality ;-)
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                                                      • Fletch XXX
                                                        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                        • 60840

                                                        #177
                                                        Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                        well sure, that pic always has to accompany testimonials...it's not that the pic itself is gay...just that it makes straight men question their sexuality ;-)
                                                        while you are here, you did get that tour zip I mailed you right? Just want to make sure, if not Ill resend right now.

                                                        *launching a tour through APM for those who have been waiting for it.

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                                                        • SykkBoy2
                                                          Jesus loves bacon
                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                          • 19969

                                                          #178
                                                          Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                          while you are here, you did get that tour zip I mailed you right? Just want to make sure, if not Ill resend right now.

                                                          *launching a tour through APM for those who have been waiting for it.
                                                          Yup, got it and looked it over and everything looks good to go

                                                          Should be announcing it soon to our webmasters. It's a damn good looking tour. Great job, man
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                                                          • Fletch XXX
                                                            GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                            • 60840

                                                            #179
                                                            Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                            Yup, got it and looked it over and everything looks good to go

                                                            Should be announcing it soon to our webmasters. It's a damn good looking tour. Great job, man
                                                            As I told you when we started talking about this, if all goes smooth, you can expect more from me, I needed to feel out the process and the requirements.

                                                            I can't launch tours through Pimproll anylonger (seems they stopped the byot thing), so you will have my attention I definitely plan on more tours with you, cheers.

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                                                            • stev0
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                              • 6801

                                                              #180
                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                              son, I know exactly who/what you are and the fact that you think a webmaster event is some sort of vacation speaks volumes.
                                                              now how about you just run along, hone your pretend game and come back next time with your big boy voice.
                                                              Speaks volumes? I've never been to one and I've done quite well in this biz so far.

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                                                              • 12clicks
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 19814

                                                                #181
                                                                Originally posted by stev0
                                                                Speaks volumes? I've never been to one and I've done quite well in this biz so far.
                                                                well, we'll just go ahead and take your word on that.
                                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                • NoComments
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                  • 4957

                                                                  #182
                                                                  Originally posted by stev0
                                                                  Speaks volumes? I've never been to one and I've done quite well in this biz so far.
                                                                  How many millions do you make in thsi business on the anual basis?

                                                                  I know 12 clicks is semi broke, he barely makes 1.2 a year nowadays. Do you beat him and by how much?
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                                                                  • Snake Doctor
                                                                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                    • 13449

                                                                    #183
                                                                    I learned a long time ago not to argue with 12clicks.

                                                                    He drags you down to his level, and then beats you with experience.
                                                                    sig too big

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                                                                    • notoldschool
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                      • 5687

                                                                      #184
                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                      well, we'll just go ahead and take your word on that.
                                                                      Shows how little you know about this biz. I would say the MAJORITY of people making real money have never attended an adult show.

                                                                      The glaring proof of your non success with your program is that you think being a sig whore on GFY will somehow make your proggie a success.

                                                                      Take your 5000 uniques a day and start a blog why dont u.
                                                                      No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                                      -- Learned Hand

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                                                                      • notoldschool
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2007
                                                                        • 5687

                                                                        #185
                                                                        Originally posted by NoComments
                                                                        How many millions do you make in thsi business on the anual basis?

                                                                        I know 12 clicks is semi broke, he barely makes 1.2 a year nowadays. Do you beat him and by how much?
                                                                        Hey 12clicks backing yourself up with your alter sig ego does not make your right.
                                                                        No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                                        -- Learned Hand

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                                                                        • Peaches
                                                                          Old broad
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 13933

                                                                          #186
                                                                          Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                                          Hey 12clicks backing yourself up with your alter sig ego does not make your right.
                                                                          Trust me, nocomments isn't his alter sig ego - nor is he backing him up

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                                                                          • notoldschool
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Aug 2007
                                                                            • 5687

                                                                            #187
                                                                            I must not have caught the sarcasm in his post. I really should pay more attention. ;)
                                                                            No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                                            -- Learned Hand

                                                                            http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                                                            • NoComments
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                                              • 4957

                                                                              #188
                                                                              Backing, shmacking,
                                                                              I just post the numbers.

                                                                              When somebody who claims to make "real money in the business" barks on somebody who grosses roughly $100,000 a month,
                                                                              I am curious about what barker calls as "real money".

                                                                              Peaches, I was skeptical about 12 clicks progyy's success until I peeked at his numbers (no, he has no clue where and how, he didn't give them to me)

                                                                              From where I sit, $100,000 a month in today's environment is not that chubby. Am I wrong?
                                                                              Last edited by NoComments; 01-28-2008, 01:30 PM.
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                                                                              • DirtyProfits
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • May 2005
                                                                                • 1885

                                                                                #189
                                                                                What about interest rates? Every day you keep money you receive a % in interest rates and make money of other people's money.

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                                                                                • Peaches
                                                                                  Old broad
                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 13933

                                                                                  #190
                                                                                  Originally posted by NoComments
                                                                                  From where I sit, $100,000 a month in today's environment is not that chubby. Am I wrong?
                                                                                  For someone who's in the biz as long as Ron and Robert have and having the program up at least a year, especially as hard as Ron's been working it, I'd honestly say $100K gross isn't that much to brag about and I really hope they are grossing more than that. I know affiliates who gross more than that. Heck, even Colin stated he'd received a 6 figure check from The 12. That's why I said you weren't really backing him with those numbers.

                                                                                  Just being honest. And remember, I've HAVE seen affiliate checks being sent out - I'm not just going by what they say they make. The affiliates are buying traffic with that money though, just like 12clicks' program is. Plus they have more overhead than most affiliates have.

                                                                                  $100K gross for a company or even program isn't the same now as it was back in your prime

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                                                                                  • NoComments
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                                    • 4957

                                                                                    #191
                                                                                    P, I don't gross 100k a month nowadays, so for me 100k is a "good number"
                                                                                    (assuming the profit margin is 50% ;)
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                                                                                    • Peaches
                                                                                      Old broad
                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 13933

                                                                                      #192
                                                                                      Originally posted by NoComments
                                                                                      P, I don't gross 100k a month nowadays, so for me 100k is a "good number"
                                                                                      (assuming the profit margin is 50% ;)
                                                                                      Don't get me wrong, I'd love to gross $100K a month - but I don't have a partner, employees, affiliates, designers, content or traffic to pay for

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                                                                                      • 12clicks
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 19814

                                                                                        #193
                                                                                        I can't imagine where this info comes from but it can't possibly come from ALL the banks and processors I do business with.

                                                                                        but I don't mind people guessing.
                                                                                        I am surprised to see people thinking I'm working hard though. The arcade game mojo bought me for christmas whispers in my ear all day.
                                                                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                        • NoComments
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                                          • 4957

                                                                                          #194
                                                                                          Ron, don't guess, I don't reveal my sources
                                                                                          ;)

                                                                                          You should know first hand -
                                                                                          if information is out there,
                                                                                          it can be obtained
                                                                                          :D
                                                                                          Last edited by NoComments; 01-28-2008, 02:35 PM.
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                                                                                          • NoComments
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                                                            • 4957

                                                                                            #195
                                                                                            Originally posted by DirtyProfits
                                                                                            What about interest rates? Every day you keep money you receive a % in interest rates and make money of other people's money.
                                                                                            at what banks pay today in interest, all I can say, and I hope you understand Yiddish, even though the nature of your post doesn't suggest it:

                                                                                            AZOHEN VEY!
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                                                                                            • V_RocKs
                                                                                              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                              • 32448

                                                                                              #196
                                                                                              I have to agree with you on this one.

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                                                                                              • notoldschool
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Aug 2007
                                                                                                • 5687

                                                                                                #197
                                                                                                Originally posted by NoComments
                                                                                                P, I don't gross 100k a month nowadays, so for me 100k is a "good number"
                                                                                                (assuming the profit margin is 50% ;)
                                                                                                I can GuARaNTEE you that 12clicks program does not come close to 100,000. a month profit. I doubt it profits more than 10,000.
                                                                                                No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                                                                -- Learned Hand

                                                                                                http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                                                                                • NoComments
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                                                  • 4957

                                                                                                  #198
                                                                                                  You can't guarantee and I can...therefore,
                                                                                                  keep your mouth shut, learn from the elders and re-read FAQ regarding GFY signature rules.
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                                                                                                  • Martin
                                                                                                    "Assassins"
                                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                                    • 17274

                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                    serge you still hold the rights to: ;-)

                                                                                                    right?
                                                                                                    and

                                                                                                    ;-))

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                                                                                                    • Nickatilynx
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                      #200
                                                                                                      Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                                      ... ;-)))
                                                                                                      Oi!!! Watch it!!!

                                                                                                      I stole that off serge , don't you dare steal that style from me ;-))))
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