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I love the guys who CRY about a $63.83 check and make threats to out you to everyone on the boards, only to find out THEY put the wrong mailing address on the form when they signed up.
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of course I did and enjoyed it tremendously! Anything else you've seen good lately?
Our latest very good discovery was Harakiri, 1966 Japanese movie***************************************
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Bad advice, I am still fuming over one's dork mistake who put mayo instead of ketchup with fries!***************************************
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I agree with you 100% on that statement, but had to make a funny comment.don't bitch when your check is a day or two late. Seriously, even if it isn't true, at least PRETEND you're not spending every single penny you make and can't survive if your payment doesn't come the exact day you expect it.
at least pretend your a business person!
One of the most important things you can do to be taken seriously is to act seriously.
Only in this industry could someone make a comment about acting seriously to be taken seriously and have a banner of a guy shitting gold coins right below it.
I fuckin' love it.

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Nothing really stands out. Apocalypto, but I'm sure you've seen that and it is a few years old now.
BTW. I really liked "Everything is Illuminated". I think you were the one who recommended it.
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all I've ever done in this business is attempt to deliver cross-media paradigms and scale 24/365 applications so as to target next-generation e-tailers who have an eye towards the adult market.
In that respect, we've been successful in synergizing sexy infomediaries and streamline front-end models and are now prepared to aggregate synergistic paradigms for the benefit of the entire adult market.
We now intend to benchmark innovative metrics in an effort to unleash open-source action-items to deliver 24/7 experiences to our online partners.
In this way we hope to scale innovative deliverables and harness cross-platform convergences as we move towards step three of our collaborative mindshareI'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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Apocalypto I couldn't finish. Historically the movie is a joke.
Everything is Illuminated" is a classic, the sound track is one of our favorite CD's.
Are you getting back to FL any time soon?
I miss our chess games.***************************************
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dude, there's one hard and fast rule in this business.
ass makes coin.
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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all I've ever done in this business is attempt to deliver cross-media paradigms and scale 24/365 applications so as to target next-generation e-tailers who have an eye towards the adult market.
In that respect, we've been successful in synergizing sexy infomediaries and streamline front-end models and are now prepared to aggregate synergistic paradigms for the benefit of the entire adult market.
We now intend to benchmark innovative metrics in an effort to unleash open-source action-items to deliver 24/7 experiences to our online partners.
In this way we hope to scale innovative deliverables and harness cross-platform convergences as we move towards step three of our collaborative mindshare
Finally somebody speaks my language I can understand.***************************************
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When exactly did this thread go from being about 12clicks telling kids not to complain to a full-scale bro-argument-orgy?
And more to the point, how shit am I if my sig, in prime place of post #2, still hasn't generated me any money?
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Last edited by notoldschool; 01-28-2008, 06:43 AM.No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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WTF??
Ron, we do business together and you've never bought me a drink at a show...wait...do I write the testimonial before or after said drink?
bah, fuck it, with the business we do together, we can afford our own drinks at APM...Comment
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haha, see... exactly what I was talking about. You have no idea who I am or what I do, yet you assume I'm some guy living in his mom's basement? Your lame ass program would love to have an affiliate that does half as many sales as I do. If you've been doing online adult for 10 years then I've been in this "business" for just as long as you. I've never been to an industry event, why would I? I work online. When I go on vacation a bunch of webmasters are the last people I want to hang around with (no offense to most of you, some webmasters are normal people... but there's a bunch of fucking weirdos in this line of work too).oh dear, yet another titan of industry preaching from his mom's house.
Here's a little clue about respect, son. I'm not looking for respect from your kind. show up at an industry event where we business people meet and explain to me about this respect thing you think I'm so aware of
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son, I know exactly who/what you are and the fact that you think a webmaster event is some sort of vacation speaks volumes.haha, see... exactly what I was talking about. You have no idea who I am or what I do, yet you assume I'm some guy living in his mom's basement? Your lame ass program would love to have an affiliate that does half as many sales as I do. If you've been doing online adult for 10 years then I've been in this "business" for just as long as you. I've never been to an industry event, why would I? I work online. When I go on vacation a bunch of webmasters are the last people I want to hang around with (no offense to most of you, some webmasters are normal people... but there's a bunch of fucking weirdos in this line of work too).
now how about you just run along, hone your pretend game and come back next time with your big boy voice.
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Dude, I was going to ask you for a testimonial but I thought you'd end up gaying it up with that naked pic of you in the shower that shows up every time your name is mentioned.
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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well sure, that pic always has to accompany testimonials...it's not that the pic itself is gay...just that it makes straight men question their sexuality ;-)Comment
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while you are here, you did get that tour zip I mailed you right? Just want to make sure, if not Ill resend right now.
*launching a tour through APM for those who have been waiting for it.
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Yup, got it and looked it over and everything looks good to go
Should be announcing it soon to our webmasters. It's a damn good looking tour. Great job, man
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As I told you when we started talking about this, if all goes smooth, you can expect more from me, I needed to feel out the process and the requirements.
I can't launch tours through Pimproll anylonger (seems they stopped the byot thing), so you will have my attention
I definitely plan on more tours with you, cheers.

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Speaks volumes? I've never been to one and I've done quite well in this biz so far.Comment
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I learned a long time ago not to argue with 12clicks.
He drags you down to his level, and then beats you with experience.sig too bigComment
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Shows how little you know about this biz. I would say the MAJORITY of people making real money have never attended an adult show.
The glaring proof of your non success with your program is that you think being a sig whore on GFY will somehow make your proggie a success.

Take your 5000 uniques a day and start a blog why dont u.
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No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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I must not have caught the sarcasm in his post. I really should pay more attention. ;)No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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Backing, shmacking,
I just post the numbers.
When somebody who claims to make "real money in the business" barks on somebody who grosses roughly $100,000 a month,
I am curious about what barker calls as "real money".
Peaches, I was skeptical about 12 clicks progyy's success until I peeked at his numbers (no, he has no clue where and how, he didn't give them to me)
From where I sit, $100,000 a month in today's environment is not that chubby. Am I wrong?Last edited by NoComments; 01-28-2008, 01:30 PM.***************************************
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What about interest rates? Every day you keep money you receive a % in interest rates and make money of other people's money.Comment
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For someone who's in the biz as long as Ron and Robert have and having the program up at least a year, especially as hard as Ron's been working it, I'd honestly say $100K gross isn't that much to brag about and I really hope they are grossing more than that. I know affiliates who gross more than that. Heck, even Colin stated he'd received a 6 figure check from The 12. That's why I said you weren't really backing him with those numbers.
Just being honest. And remember, I've HAVE seen affiliate checks being sent out - I'm not just going by what they say they make. The affiliates are buying traffic with that money though, just like 12clicks' program is. Plus they have more overhead than most affiliates have.
$100K gross for a company or even program isn't the same now as it was back in your prime
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P, I don't gross 100k a month nowadays, so for me 100k is a "good number"
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I can't imagine where this info comes from but it can't possibly come from ALL the banks and processors I do business with.
but I don't mind people guessing.
I am surprised to see people thinking I'm working hard though. The arcade game mojo bought me for christmas whispers in my ear all day.I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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Ron, don't guess, I don't reveal my sources
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You should know first hand -
if information is out there,
it can be obtained
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at what banks pay today in interest, all I can say, and I hope you understand Yiddish, even though the nature of your post doesn't suggest it:
AZOHEN VEY!***************************************
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You can't guarantee and I can...therefore,
keep your mouth shut, learn from the elders and re-read FAQ regarding GFY signature rules.***************************************
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