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  • Fat Panda
    Porn is Dead. Move along.
    • Aug 2006
    • 13296
    #1

    How can I promote Naughty America when...

    ...complete 25 minute videos are all over tube sites just like this:

    http://www.redtube.com/88

    this particular video has been viewd almost 1,000,000 times! Plus this link has been up so long it has a PR2!



    ----> I am not just calling out NA...tube sites are full of practically ever sponsor imagineable...
    Last edited by Fat Panda; 01-28-2008, 12:07 PM.
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    • PR_Sebas
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2006
      • 2825
      #2
      if you notify NA about this they can email redtube and it will be taken down..

      someone found a braincash movie up there a couple weeks ago, braincash emailed redtube and it was taken down...

      my question is, why should i support videosz when they support redtube..
      http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=800618

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        • bobby666
          boots are my religion
          • Nov 2005
          • 21765
          #3
          PR2 for robbed content, not bad at all

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            • xentech
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2006
              • 1405
              #4
              Originally posted by pornreviewsource
              if you notify NA about this they can email redtube and it will be taken down..

              someone found a braincash movie up there a couple weeks ago, braincash emailed redtube and it was taken down...

              my question is, why should i support videosz when they support redtube..
              http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=800618
              interesting...

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                • NosMo
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1025
                  #5
                  Nice of them to leave the 2257 info in the clip. You know nothing screams stolen content like a missing 2257.

                  Asshats, NA need to talk to them maybe with a couple of friends with baseball bats.

                  NosMo

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                    • PR_Sebas
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 2825
                      #6
                      let me know if u dont contact NA, ill try to get a hold of someone

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                        • Fap
                          Just Du It
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 12094
                          #7
                          Take down them tube sites

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                            • Balla4real
                              Registered User
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 27
                              #8
                              I think tube sites are bullshit, they don't pose a threat.
                              Tube site galleries don't give enough incentive for the user to buy a membership. Only way you can make money off a tube site is if you tag banners onto your gallery, such as aff or fling, some stupid shit like that.

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                                • Diligent
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 1594
                                  #9
                                  Balla, the issue most of us see is surfers "escape" to the Tubes cuz they mean "free quality wanking"..

                                  But personally, I'm thinking and hoping they just vacuum up most freeloaders from us, so we can go about what we do with even better ratios.. ;)
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                                    • NaughtyAce
                                      Traffic - Protect Content
                                      • Aug 2003
                                      • 1482
                                      #10
                                      Thank you, we'll have that taken down immediately.

                                      I'm sorry that this was even up this long and we did not see it.

                                      Does anyone know what it has a pr2 ranking for?
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                                        • notoldschool
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2007
                                          • 5687
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by SAC
                                          .. Plus this link has been up so long it has a PR2!


                                          Im glad I send them SE traffic.
                                          No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                          -- Learned Hand

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                                            • NaughtyAce
                                              Traffic - Protect Content
                                              • Aug 2003
                                              • 1482
                                              #12
                                              I've just contacted Redtube and notices are going out to the search engines as well as to Redtube for the copyright infringement.
                                              Please let me know if you ever see these, we do our best to take them down as quickly as possible.
                                              Publisher manager
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                                              Looking for Sales Support! - Contact Media Reps
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                                                • Violetta
                                                  Affiliate
                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                  • 28735
                                                  #13
                                                  damn... that just suck. New world of porn
                                                  M&A Queen

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                                                    • PR_Sebas
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                      • 2825
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by NaughtyAce
                                                      I've just contacted Redtube and notices are going out to the search engines as well as to Redtube for the copyright infringement.
                                                      Please let me know if you ever see these, we do our best to take them down as quickly as possible.
                                                      hell yah.... finally a program that stands up for this crap... its just too bad not all programs do this... most try to profrt from these types of sites rather than take them down

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                                                        • Dirty F
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 59204
                                                          #15
                                                          Well, there are millions and millions of other people who will never visit that site. I highly doubt you will lose 1 penny because of that video.

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                                                            • mrwilson
                                                              mrwilson 2.0
                                                              • Jul 2007
                                                              • 5122
                                                              #16
                                                              least of your worries, passes to "na" are available on many sites too..

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                                                                • notoldschool
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                                  • 5687
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by pornreviewsource
                                                                  hell yah.... finally a program that stands up for this crap... its just too bad not all programs do this... most try to profrt from these types of sites rather than take them down
                                                                  I agree. I am glad NA is diligant about this stuff though. They run a very tight ship.
                                                                  No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                                  -- Learned Hand

                                                                  http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                                                    • 96ukssob
                                                                      So Fucking Banananananas
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 12991
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by mrwilson
                                                                      least of your worries, passes to "na" are available on many sites too..
                                                                      true and a lot of people forget about this problem as well as torrent sites
                                                                      Email: Clicky on Me

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                                                                        • Fat Panda
                                                                          Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                          • 13296
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Way to go NaughtyAce!

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                                                                            • PostWhore
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                              • 4720
                                                                              #20
                                                                              NOOOO!! dont email them, its my favorite movie!
                                                                              Ask me how to monetize with adult traffic!

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                                                                                • Fat Panda
                                                                                  Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                                  • 13296
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by PostWhore
                                                                                  NOOOO!! dont email them, its my favorite movie!
                                                                                  it is pretty good,,,,,,but fuck the masses who get it for free!

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                                                                                    • Penny24Seven
                                                                                      So Fucking What
                                                                                      • Jun 2007
                                                                                      • 6287
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      you don't think other programs get their videos removed? I have someone that does a search a couple times a week on all of them for us. For the most part they all take the videos down pretty fast. Still a pain in the ass
                                                                                      Our site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and Penny

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                                                                                        • Slick
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                          • 7338
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          And people thought TGPS were bad for the biz.

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                                                                                            • PR_Sebas
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                                                              • 2825
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Hookers and School Girls
                                                                                              you don't think other programs get their videos removed? I have someone that does a search a couple times a week on all of them for us. For the most part they all take the videos down pretty fast. Still a pain in the ass
                                                                                              awesome... like i said its about time programs are taking care of this stuff

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                                                                                                • Davy
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Apr 2006
                                                                                                  • 4323
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Videosz is all over the tube sites atm.
                                                                                                  I am thinking about removing their galleries from my tgp.
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                                                                                                    • GITZINGER
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                                                      • 929
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by NaughtyAce
                                                                                                      I've just contacted Redtube and notices are going out to the search engines as well as to Redtube for the copyright infringement.
                                                                                                      Please let me know if you ever see these, we do our best to take them down as quickly as possible.
                                                                                                      it's still up.
                                                                                                      Your momma was a ho!!!

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                                                                                                        • Dirty F
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                          • 59204
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Cant believe me comment is totally ignored.

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                                                                                                            • StarkReality
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                                                              • 4444
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by NaughtyAce
                                                                                                              I've just contacted Redtube and notices are going out to the search engines as well as to Redtube for the copyright infringement.
                                                                                                              Please let me know if you ever see these, we do our best to take them down as quickly as possible.
                                                                                                              Awesome, great to see that you guys care! While you are at it, have a look at http://www.pornbb.org

                                                                                                              You need an account to do a search, but "naughty america" shows me 281 matches...that's threads, not files.

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                                                                                                                • lbc213
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Sep 2006
                                                                                                                  • 2673
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Just do a search on google for any popular pornstars name, 9 times out of 10 their will be a tube, torrent or warez site on the first page.

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                                                                                                                    • hateman
                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                      • 1623
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SAC
                                                                                                                      ...complete 25 minute videos are all over tube sites just like this:

                                                                                                                      http://www.redtube.com/88
                                                                                                                      I couldn't make it past the first 2 minutes.

                                                                                                                      I wanted to punch that annoying cunt in the face.

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                                                                                                                        • TarPy
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                          • 758
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Yep. NA runs a good program. We're out here visiting them at the moment, and they've taken good care of us.


                                                                                                                          We couldn't ask for more professionalism and respect from their organization.

                                                                                                                          And since they've already helped us so much, I won't bother them with this, but anyone else in san diego that can hook a bro up with some smoke LOL

                                                                                                                          icq: 426504803

                                                                                                                          But, for real. Pichunter views this copyright infringement as a serious threat to existing freesite and paysite brands alike.


                                                                                                                          I would even argue that well after redTube takes this video down, there are still grounds for a solid suit.

                                                                                                                          Because, if you look at it this way, stealing everyone shit built them a brand, if they unsteal it, they have still already generated a lot of brand equity through leveraging stolen content that retains value after the content theft ends. So, if that equity was created with RK, NA, and BC material, shouldn't that equity be owned by RK, NA, and BC. Methinks so, and a court might well agree.

                                                                                                                          Watch out tub owners, they aren't the only ones that told me they are suing.

                                                                                                                          ;-)
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                                                                                                                            • TheSenator
                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                              • 13330
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Webmasters shouldn't be searching out for stolen content.

                                                                                                                              http://www.redtube.com/88

                                                                                                                              Redtube has already caused immediate damages.

                                                                                                                              When a surfer finds a small preview clip at a site that promote Naughty America there is a like 1:500 chance that he would sign-up.

                                                                                                                              When a surfer finds the entire scene at Redtube there is no chance for a sign up.
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                                                                                                                                • PR_Sebas
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                  • 2825
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheSenator
                                                                                                                                  Webmasters shouldn't be searching out for stolen content.

                                                                                                                                  http://www.redtube.com/88

                                                                                                                                  Redtube has already caused immediate damages.

                                                                                                                                  When a surfer finds a small preview clip at a site that promote Naughty America there is a like 1:500 chance that he would sign-up.

                                                                                                                                  When a surfer finds the entire scene at Redtube there is no chance for a sign up.
                                                                                                                                  I don't exactly get what you mean? Are you sayin' don't bother trying to stop them because surfers who find those sites are lost causes anyway?

                                                                                                                                  If that is what you're saying I have to completely disagree. What about surfers who haven't found those sites yet ? Shouldn't we try to stop these tube sites before ALL porn buyers find these free sites?

                                                                                                                                  I also hate the theory of "adapt or die" ... Legit tube sites are fine, sites with 1-3 minute clips, but these full length STOLEN content tube sites have to be stopped now.

                                                                                                                                  If these full length tube sites never existed in the first place the porn world would be better off. Think of all the potential porn buyers that hit all these free sites now. Let's say 1,000,000 people hit these tube sites. If those tube sites never existed you'd have to figure 50,000 of them might consider paying for it. Which is 50,000 more members that paysites could have had.

                                                                                                                                  All these full length free sites need to be stopped, or at least slowed down including; torrent sites, free porn forums and rapidshare/megatronic.

                                                                                                                                  I think all these things need to be controlled or alot of the smaller paysites/programs won't be able to compete and will have to shut down.

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                                                                                                                                    • jockboy60
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 251
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Yeah, I agree, the ones with the full show are bad, it can be a double edged sword.
                                                                                                                                      Read my blog about my "marketing experiments" and whether they succeed or fail. http://www.mymarketingexperiment.com

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                                                                                                                                        • seeric
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                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 41917
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          i heard videosz is in bed with them.

                                                                                                                                          any word on this?

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                                                                                                                                            • PR_Sebas
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                              • 2825
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                                                                              i heard videosz is in bed with them.

                                                                                                                                              any word on this?
                                                                                                                                              you heard correctly... well as far as I'm concerned... here is the thread I made about that...

                                                                                                                                              http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=800618

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                                                                                                                                                • over38
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 460
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  The movie is still up..................
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                                                                                                                                                    • GAMEFINEST
                                                                                                                                                      Make STACK$
                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                                                      • 14470
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
                                                                                                                                                      Compound interest.

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                                                                                                                                                        • TarPy
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 758
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Well, that's actually great news if VideoZ wants in bed with them.


                                                                                                                                                          Right now you can't get blood from the stone, but you gotta stop the stone.

                                                                                                                                                          If VideoZ ties their considerable assets to the infringment, it would be stupid of anyone not to sue for a slice of those assets.

                                                                                                                                                          TarPy
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                                                                                                                                                            • NaughtyAce
                                                                                                                                                              Traffic - Protect Content
                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 1482
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Video DOWN!
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                                                                                                                                                                • DigitalDruid
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2007
                                                                                                                                                                  • 647
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Damn...... I wanted to see it Always kick ass videos

                                                                                                                                                                  Get on here and make some ca$h

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                                                                                                                                                                    • xmas13
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 5176
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Every program must create its own anti-piracy department with a dozen $200/month Indians surfing tube sites and sending out notices.
                                                                                                                                                                      ICQ 557504926

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                                                                                                                                                                        • tony299
                                                                                                                                                                          lurker
                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 57021
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by NaughtyAce
                                                                                                                                                                          Video DOWN!
                                                                                                                                                                          there is another one first page

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