Well they managed to make a working 3d printed AR15 reciver

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  • crockett
    in a van by the river
    • May 2003
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    #1

    Well they managed to make a working 3d printed AR15 reciver

    These guys made one in the past that broke after a few rounds, but seems they finally managed to come up with a design that is capable of firing a reasonable amount of rounds with out breaking.

    3D printed AR15 lower receiver..



    It's still a long way from just printing a gun on a 3d printer because this still depends on all the other regularly manufactured parts. It's just the lower receiver is the part that has the serial numbers, and that's the part that is usually registered.

    I'm not up on the law with that kinda stuff, so I'm not sure what kind of legal issues it would bring upon someone whom downloaded it and reproduced it. Perhaps some GFY gun expert can tell us.



    Same guys made working 30 round clips as well, pictured above.
    Last edited by crockett; 03-01-2013, 11:24 AM.
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  • Barry-xlovecam
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    #2
    I suppose some will now call on a ban to 3d printing as a dangerous and illegal practice ...

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    • PR_Glen
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      #3
      Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
      I suppose some will now call on a ban to 3d printing as a dangerous and illegal practice ...

      yeah because its so cheap...
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      • Rochard
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        • Dec 2001
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        #4
        Pretty soon we will not be buying products in a store.... We'll be printing them up from designs at home.
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        • iSpyCams
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          • May 2009
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          #5
          Originally posted by PR_Glen
          yeah because its so cheap...
          Not much more expensive than an AR15 these days.
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          • Choopa Phil
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            • Apr 2009
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            #6
            Originally posted by PR_Glen
            yeah because its so cheap...
            They are cheap. Cheap as in buying a 3d printer, producing 10 of these and selling them to pay it off. The reels of plastic are like 50 dollars.
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            • ottopottomouse
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              • Jan 2010
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              #7
              The plastic will go up in price if home printing takes off. Look at the price of ink cartridges for a normal printer.
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              • SleazyDream
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                • Jul 2001
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                #8
                what's scary is the lack of metal. the easier it is to make firearms without any metal in the gun or bullet the easier it is to get them past metal detectors at airports and public places where people think everyone was frisked
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                • AdultPornMasta
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SleazyDream
                  what's scary is the lack of metal. the easier it is to make firearms without any metal in the gun or bullet the easier it is to get them past metal detectors at airports and public places where people think everyone was frisked
                  Not a real fear because barrels, bolts, gas tubes, etc, must still be made of some kind of metal which will NOT get past the metal detectors.

                  "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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                  • SleazyDream
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                    • Jul 2001
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by AdultPornMasta
                    Not a real fear because barrels, bolts, gas tubes, etc, must still be made of some kind of metal which will NOT get past the metal detectors.

                    today true.

                    but how long till technology makes ceramics or some other material capable of it?
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                    • DTK
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                      #11
                      There are already 3d printers which can do metal. They're really expensive atm ($500k+)
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                      • Vendzilla
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                        • Mar 2004
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                        #12
                        the part so far that has to be made of metal is the barrel, but people have been playing with ceramic to make barrels with.
                        They had an all plastic gun in the movie Line of Fire, but there are no all plastic guns available right now
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                        think about that

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                        • My Fucking Traffic
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                          #13
                          Let me know when these printers can print me a real editable sandwich.

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                          • AdultPornMasta
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Vendzilla
                            the part so far that has to be made of metal is the barrel, but people have been playing with ceramic to make barrels with.
                            They had an all plastic gun in the movie Line of Fire, but there are no all plastic guns available right now
                            The bolt in the firearm must be relatively heavy and the ABS-stylr plastics are far too light. A lighter bolt would require a much stronger recoil spring and the plastic would not take it.

                            Also the plastics cannot handle the temperatures generated by the fired round and can therefore not be used for barrels.

                            "Line of Fire" was just that................a movie.

                            Lots of shit in movies that doesn't really exist.

                            "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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                            • AdultPornMasta
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Choopa Phil
                              They are cheap. Cheap as in buying a 3d printer, producing 10 of these and selling them to pay it off. The reels of plastic are like 50 dollars.
                              Were you to print out receivers and sell them, you would have to possess a Type 07 Manufacturing license or you would be in violation of several federal laws and subject to very severe penalties.

                              "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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                              • Dead
                                They left the door open
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 4746

                                #16
                                Originally posted by AdultPornMasta
                                Were you to print out receivers and sell them, you would have to possess a Type 07 Manufacturing license or you would be in violation of several federal laws and subject to very severe penalties.

                                For someone trying to take over the world, you should know, the law has no arms! Hell the bitch is blindfolded....I do not think for a moment, that any law will stop people from making this profitable. As they should.

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                                • AdultPornMasta
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Dead
                                  For someone trying to take over the world, you should know, the law has no arms! Hell the bitch is blindfolded....I do not think for a moment, that any law will stop people from making this profitable. As they should.
                                  You are of course 100% correct!

                                  There are risks though.





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                                  • Spudstr
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                                    #18
                                    its not illegal to manufacture your own fire arm as long as you do not sell it, and it does not need a serial number.
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                                    • livexxx
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                                      #19
                                      Someone needs to make a stand on this, I have a 24" lathe and a 2 axis vertical milling machine with CNC, these plastic glue printers are going to spoilt it for everyone. I'm going to start stockpiling hacksaws and drills RIGHT NOW
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                                      • AdultPornMasta
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Spudstr
                                        its not illegal to manufacture your own fire arm as long as you do not sell it, and it does not need a serial number.
                                        100% correct provided you did not manufacture with "the intent to sell".




                                        "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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                                        • crockett
                                          in a van by the river
                                          • May 2003
                                          • 76818

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                          Pretty soon we will not be buying products in a store.... We'll be printing them up from designs at home.
                                          They already say now that the next new area of piracy is going to be with 3d printers.
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                                          • crockett
                                            in a van by the river
                                            • May 2003
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                            today true.

                                            but how long till technology makes ceramics or some other material capable of it?
                                            They already print with ceramics and even metal. It's not a solid metal though, so not as strong as forged or milled.

                                            I've seen that politicians have tried to float the idea of banning any sort of plastic guns to try and spur off the 3d printed trend, but then people will just print them with something else. Like the metal or ceramics.

                                            Meaning we have pretty much come to a point with technology that it will be like trying to fight a losing battle on any sort of meaningful gun control. Granted at this point anyway home printed weapons would be extremely rare but who knows how far advances in home printers will go in say 10 years.
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                                            • crockett
                                              in a van by the river
                                              • May 2003
                                              • 76818

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by venusgal
                                              Let me know when these printers can print me a real editable sandwich.
                                              Give it a year or two because that's on the way as well..

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                                              • DTK
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by crockett
                                                Give it a year or two because that's on the way as well..

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                                                • Matt 26z
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                                                  • Apr 2002
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                  I suppose some will now call on a ban to 3d printing as a dangerous and illegal practice ...
                                                  There will be a ban on gun printing files. It's already illegal to post bomb making information online. They enacted that after the Columbine massacre even though their bombs failed to go off. All it took was them getting the plans from the internet.

                                                  So someone will print out a gun and go on a shooting spree with it. Survivors of those killed will sue the printer companies and the site that served the gun printing file. Then the government will ban the files altogether.

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                                                  • Vendzilla
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                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 23200

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by AdultPornMasta

                                                    Lots of shit in movies that doesn't really exist.

                                                    Yeah, I want a hand held rail gun!

                                                    People out there are doing some very cool things with ceramics, maybe some day, but not interested in getting one if they make one. I like my guns being made of steel!
                                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                    think about that

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                                                    • bronco67
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                                                      • Dec 2006
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                                                      #27
                                                      What I want to know is, with all that's going on with guns right now ---why would someone be doing this and posting a video about it online? Have some fucking common sense.

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                                                      • livexxx
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                                                        #28
                                                        this shit carries on much longer and they will ban metal next !!
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                                                        • AdultPornMasta
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by bronco67
                                                          What I want to know is, with all that's going on with guns right now ---why would someone be doing this and posting a video about it online? Have some fucking common sense.
                                                          Why?

                                                          You think 3D printing is some kind of secret?

                                                          "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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                                                          • crockett
                                                            in a van by the river
                                                            • May 2003
                                                            • 76818

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by bronco67
                                                            What I want to know is, with all that's going on with guns right now ---why would someone be doing this and posting a video about it online? Have some fucking common sense.
                                                            The point they are making is that it is easy to get around gun bans. I don't really agree with what they are doing but they are just showing when there is a will there is a way and technology has made it easier than ever.

                                                            I don't really like that any moron can go buy a AR15 but it's not like there is much that can stop it now that there are already so many already out there.

                                                            I think some of the legislation is reasonable but I also think some of it is unreasonable.. meanwhile I think the NRA and most pro gun people are always unreasonable, because they fight everything no matter if it's a good law or a bad. They don't work with the law makers at all.
                                                            Last edited by crockett; 03-02-2013, 04:10 PM.
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                                                            • mayabong
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                              There will be a ban on gun printing files. It's already illegal to post bomb making information online. They enacted that after the Columbine massacre even though their bombs failed to go off. All it took was them getting the plans from the internet.

                                                              So someone will print out a gun and go on a shooting spree with it. Survivors of those killed will sue the printer companies and the site that served the gun printing file. Then the government will ban the files altogether.
                                                              Yes we all know how easy it is to ban files. Especially if they are torrents
                                                              Last edited by mayabong; 03-02-2013, 04:55 PM.
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