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  • MOxxx
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2005
    • 3022

    #1

    ^^CARS-Who owns who^^

    This is a piece from an interesting Blog i have found last night:

    "So, you're buying an English car huh? That fancy Jaguar with its birds eye maple... so much nicer than any American car. In fact, no American company can compete with its elegance you say. Well, hold on to your bowler because, as nice as the Jaguar is, it's now a Ford.

    The automotive world is a complicated place now and with consolidation hitting everyone it's no surprise that car companies are gobbling up each other faster than ever before.

    Now, just because Volvo sold their car division to Ford it doesn't mean you can get a Mustang engine in a S60 sedan. Nor does it mean you can get Ford Focus with an Aston Martin engine. But it does mean these companies with bigger parents have a better chance of surviving long-term because of better financial stability. In fact there's a good chance SAAB wouldn't be making new designs if it weren't for GM and I don't think Volvo would have had the money for their latest 'R' line of cars if Ford hadn't stepped in.

    But in soap opera fashion sometimes these companies sell their divisions so quickly that the new parent doesn't even have time to make their own changes. What do we mean? The latest Range Rover (from Land Rover which is owned by Ford) comes with a wonderful BMW engine under the hood. Why? Because BMW bought the Rover group some years ago and sold the Land Rover lineup to Ford. To put it plainly, you'd be buying an English SUV with a German engine from an American company.

    Use our chart below to see who owns who.


    BMW owns:
    -BMW
    -Mini
    -Rolls Royce

    Chrysler owns:
    -AMC (brand discontinued -- Chrysler bought AMC primarily for the Jeep brand which was owned by AMC)
    -Chrysler
    -Dodge
    -Eagle (brand discontinued)
    -Jeep
    -Plymouth (brand discontinued)

    Daimler/Chrysler owns:
    -Chrysler (small percentage)
    -Maybach
    -Mercedes-Benz
    -Smart

    Fiat owns:
    -Alfa Romeo
    -Ferrari
    -Fiat
    -Lancia
    -Maserati

    Ford owns:
    -Aston Martin (SALE PENDING)
    -Ford
    -Jaguar
    -Land Rover (bought from BMW)
    -Lincoln
    -Mazda (Ford owns 33% of Mazda)
    -Mercury
    -Volvo cars

    Fuji Heavy Industries owns:
    -Subaru

    General Motors owns:
    -Buick
    -Cadillac
    -Chevrolet
    -Daewoo (GM owns 44%)
    -Fiat (GM has decided to divorce itself from Fiat as of Feb '05, but will retain 10% ownership.)
    -GMC
    -Holden
    -Hummer
    -Oldsmobile (brand discontinued)
    -Opel
    -Pontiac
    -Saab
    -Saturn
    -Suzuki (2.5%, from 20%)
    -Vauxhall

    Honda owns:
    -Acura
    -Honda

    Hyundai owns:
    -Hyundai
    -Kia

    Isuzu owns:
    -Isuzu
    (Mitsubishi Corp., Itochu Corp. and Mizuho Corporate Bank owns part of Isuzu.)

    Mitsubishi Corp. owns:
    -Isuzu (13.6%)
    -Mitsubishi Motors Corp (13%)

    Nissan owns:
    -Infiniti
    -Nissan
    -Renault (Nissan owns 15%)

    PSA Peugeot Citroen owns:
    -Citroen
    -Peugeot

    Porsche owns:
    -Porsche
    -VW (~31%)

    Renault owns:
    -Nissan (Renault owns 44%)

    Toyota owns:
    -Daihatsu (~51%)
    -Fuji Heavy Industries -- Subaru (Toyota owns ~20%. Toyota bought this from GM in late 2005. )
    -Isuzu (5.9%, announced 7 Nov. 2006)
    -Lexus
    -Scion
    -Toyota

    Volkswagen owns:
    -Audi
    -Bentley
    -Bugatti
    -Lamborghini
    -SEAT
    -Skoda
    -Volkswagen

    The automotive world is constantly changing so this article is will updated as needed.

    Last update: 29 Nov 2007
    Latest changes were: Chrysler & Daimler split up. Man, we were late on updating that!"

    Source: http://carscarscars.blogs.com/index/
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  • Violetta
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    • Jul 2004
    • 28735

    #2
    Fiat owns Ferrari???????????????? wooot
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    • Fucksakes
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      • Dec 2003
      • 7567

      #3
      LOL funny my pos car "Volkswagon" fits in with some of the nicest cars.

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      • Twisted Dave
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2006
        • 3635

        #4
        I think what people forget is that ... sure, Jag is owned by Ford ... but that doesn't change anything ... Jag is still a company that makes cars. They aren't made in a Ford factory. They're not made by Ford. They're made by Jaguar. Ford just makes a shit load of cash from it.

        Same with most of the others.


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        • LauraLee
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          • Sep 2003
          • 3821

          #5
          Very interesting read. I had no idea so many companies were partially owned by rival/other car companies. Good share!

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          • Brother Bilo
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            • Jun 2007
            • 4193

            #6
            It doesn't really matter who owns the company, unless they come in and force changes to the building process. That would be the only reason why any of this would even matter aside from just knowing it to know it.

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            • camchoice
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2003
              • 1267

              #7
              Originally posted by twisted Illustration
              I think what people forget is that ... sure, Jag is owned by Ford ... but that doesn't change anything ... Jag is still a company that makes cars. They aren't made in a Ford factory. They're not made by Ford. They're made by Jaguar. Ford just makes a shit load of cash from it.

              Same with most of the others.
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              • L-Pink
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                • Mar 2005
                • 39151

                #8
                Originally posted by Brother Bilo
                It doesn't really matter who owns the company, unless they come in and force changes to the building process. That would be the only reason why any of this would even matter aside from just knowing it to know it.
                It has everything to do with reach and development though.

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                • candyflip
                  Carpe Visio
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 43073

                  #9
                  Originally posted by twisted Illustration
                  I think what people forget is that ... sure, Jag is owned by Ford ... but that doesn't change anything ... Jag is still a company that makes cars. They aren't made in a Ford factory. They're not made by Ford. They're made by Jaguar. Ford just makes a shit load of cash from it.

                  Same with most of the others.
                  I have a Jaguar XType and a lot of the parts come from the European Ford Mondeo. While it might not be made in a Ford factory, there's just as much Ford running thru it's veins as their is Jaguar. I'd never go and purchase a Ford branded card, but I love my Jag

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                  • Rochard
                    Jägermeister Test Pilot
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 75762

                    #10
                    Originally posted by twisted Illustration
                    I think what people forget is that ... sure, Jag is owned by Ford ... but that doesn't change anything ... Jag is still a company that makes cars. They aren't made in a Ford factory. They're not made by Ford. They're made by Jaguar. Ford just makes a shit load of cash from it.

                    Same with most of the others.
                    I disagree. Take a look at the new Jags they are producing these days. They look like Fords.
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                    • MaDalton
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                      • Feb 2004
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                      #11
                      Porsche owns Volkswagen - that's still the joke of the year.
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                      • candyflip
                        Carpe Visio
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 43073

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rochard
                        I disagree. Take a look at the new Jags they are producing these days. They look like Fords.
                        The new Fords wish they looked this good:


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                        • ARS Bryan
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                          • Dec 2005
                          • 875

                          #13
                          Volkswagen is the clear weiner
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                          • Quagmire
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                            • Jul 2005
                            • 6490

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rochard
                            I disagree. Take a look at the new Jags they are producing these days. They look like Fords.
                            Yep. And they're made with common low-end parts as well which is why they don't retain their value. Thank the bean counters at Ford for that one.

                            Take a look in the Auto Trader and you see their price point is down below at Toyota or a Honda now.

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                            • MOxxx
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 3022

                              #15
                              One thing is sure: Eu made Ford are way better than U.S. Ford, better design, interiors and mechanic.

                              For Ford it took the EU Ford Focus to win awards in the U.S.
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                              • JFK
                                FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 67369

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                I disagree. Take a look at the new Jags they are producing these days. They look like Fords.
                                sorry Richard, I tend to disagree Check em out, specially the XK Line
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                                • justinsain
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                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 3374

                                  #17
                                  This thread needs some pics













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                                  • Antonio
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Oct 2001
                                    • 14136

                                    #18
                                    do people really think of Jaguars as cool cars?

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                                    • Supz
                                      Arthur Flegenheimer
                                      • Jul 2006
                                      • 11057

                                      #19
                                      even when jags were english cars they were pieces of shit, a lot of the new jags are ford products, except when you get into the highline's, they are no where near fords.

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                                      • Sansa
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                                        • Apr 2007
                                        • 293

                                        #20
                                        Out of that whole bunch Jaguars are by far the least reliable cars. Made that mistake once, never again. Their dealerships do have nice waiting rooms but I didn't buy a car to sit in the waiting room.
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                                        • MOxxx
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                                          • Oct 2005
                                          • 3022

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by justinsain
                                          This thread needs some pics













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                                          • MOxxx
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                                            • Oct 2005
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                                            #22
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                                            • xenigo
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                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 8067

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by twisted Illustration
                                              I think what people forget is that ... sure, Jag is owned by Ford ... but that doesn't change anything ... Jag is still a company that makes cars. They aren't made in a Ford factory. They're not made by Ford. They're made by Jaguar. Ford just makes a shit load of cash from it.

                                              Same with most of the others.
                                              I guess you forgot that the X-Type is a re-paneled Ford Contour.

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                                              • MOxxx
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                                                • Oct 2005
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                                                • MOxxx
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                                                  • TubeTitans_SusieQ
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                                                    • May 2007
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                                                    #26
                                                    wow very interesting.....and I own a beetle





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                                                    • MOxxx
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                                                      • KILL_FRENZY
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                                                        • Aug 2006
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                                                        #28
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                                                        • Brad
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                                                          • Jan 2007
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                                                          #29
                                                          Interesting to see it all in one place.

                                                          The Volvo group is trying to buy back Volvo right now.

                                                          Ford is also in the process of off loading Land Rover and Jaguar because they are spread too thin. Plus Ford devalued both the brands while owning them.
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                                                          • MOxxx
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                                                            • pizzaid
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                                                              • Oct 2007
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                                                              #31
                                                              man that f430 is where its at...
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                                                              • MOxxx
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                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                • 3022

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by pizzaid
                                                                man that f430 is where its at...
                                                                where???
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