My experience with WebAir so far.. I signed up more ~35 hours ago

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  • raddy
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2006
    • 186

    #1

    My experience with WebAir so far.. I signed up more ~35 hours ago

    Hey there, I thought of sharing this with you and leaving another post in the void for those who end up searching recommendations for hosting providers.

    ** this is a TRUE user experience, I'm still living it! **

    I'm trying out several different hosting providers - I'm already using godaddy, dreamhost and recently servage. I also wanted to check out Web Air even though I was warned NOT to by a contact who never used them but was afraid of doing so.

    I paid exactly $117.41 USD for 12 months of Virtual Hosting.

    Here's the extract off my credit card:

    20 Jan 2008 WEBAIR INTERNET DEVELOP $-117.41

    Not the cheapest... but oh well, got to try it out. Amazingly the signup process worked like a charm and they successfully without much trouble charged me that exact amount.

    However, after logging in to my account, here's what I found:

    Their control panel doesn't carry the greatest looks, but one thing you learn with time is not to trust looks, but rather trust functionality itself.

    So I go ahead and try to add a domain, but find myself in a situation where I GET programming errors that prevent me from doing so. I swear and click on "LIVE SUPPORT" which is one of their buttons in the CP in order to get someone to fix this, and find a message that says "From 2007 we are not having any more live support, please open a ticket" (I go ahead and swear again, why the crap would they keep the LIVE SUPPORT button?!?!) - so I go ahead and open a ticket.

    While bored trying to find a solution for the problem myself, I click on several CP options that either provide me with 404 errors, or open an iframe with the entire page (therefore the header of the page is duplicated) with a contact form.

    I start getting pissed off... it looks like I did indeed make a mistake when signing up here. I wait 24 hours for the ticket to be responded, and the answer to the ticket is "Can you try adding a new domain now?" as in WTF I'm beta-testing their service?!?

    Indeed I can go ahead and add a domain. But wait, when I click on my "FTP Manager" for creating an account, I get another programming error, "the SSL library could not read 4 bytes from ..." so that's when I realize that webair sucks big time. I file another ticket and wait a couple of hours before I get a response (I pushed for an answer)

    It's been like 35 hours and I still can't create FTP accounts that work. I'm not getting any e-mails from support today, they may be in a distant timezone. I already sent 2 e-mails to sales requesting a refund, first response was "we appreciate your business. <eom>" 2nd response hasn't arrived.

    I don't swear at support, I treat them carefully. I paid everything the way I should have, so it's not me, it's them. I had to write this down so I could feel better, but that's probably going to last a few minutes.

    I'm an unhappy customer.

    take care,
    /R
  • Satan
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2005
    • 1626

    #2
    thats a virtual account for you,

    We have a dedicated server and all the button PLUS live support work for us
    WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?

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    • FuqALot
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2001
      • 3817

      #3
      Alot of people will jump in this thread saying they love webair.
      And I am a webair costumer too, for years now.

      I have to agree with you that their control panel is absolute shit. I have dedicated. They should get commercial panels installed ASAP. Adding a domain could take hours with all the errors u get.

      But... you have an account manager and his ICQ# should be listed when you login.. usually if you send them a msg, they will fix problems right away. Email/Ticket is always slower than calling/messaging.

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      • mn
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2001
        • 1505

        #4
        sorry to hear about your problems... i'm pretty sure they will refund it for you.

        i'm a really happy customer with webair. been with them for many years and i think i've had two problems during the time. both times solved within 5mins.

        i only have dedicated servers with them so i have no idea about virtual.

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        • crockett
          in a van by the river
          • May 2003
          • 76818

          #5
          Originally posted by FuqALot
          Alot of people will jump in this thread saying they love webair.
          And I am a webair costumer too, for years now.

          I have to agree with you that their control panel is absolute shit. I have dedicated. They should get commercial panels installed ASAP. Adding a domain could take hours with all the errors u get.

          But... you have an account manager and his ICQ# should be listed when you login.. usually if you send them a msg, they will fix problems right away. Email/Ticket is always slower than calling/messaging.
          I have 3 dedicated servers with them and I do agree the control panel doesn't look pretty but I have no problems adding domains. I think one time a long time ago I had an issue adding a domain, but it was because it was an old version of their CP. Once it was updated it worked fine.

          I'm not some webair fan boy but I haven't had too many issues once the servers are set up. I think I've used them going on 2 years now and only had one major issue and that was fixed within a reasonable amount of time considering it was 4am in the morning. Was a server stat problem that was crashing the server.
          Last edited by crockett; 01-22-2008, 04:31 AM.
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          • cherrylula
            lol
            • Jan 2002
            • 15969

            #6
            It was a holiday weekend. Why do virtual customers bitch the most?

            And yes, 6 years with webair and no problems. Go dedicated.

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            • Fletch XXX
              GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
              • Jan 2002
              • 60840

              #7
              Been with them for over 6 years - ^^ w/ Cherry

              never had probs

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                • Jun 2003
                • 18361

                #8
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                • justsexxx
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Aug 2001
                  • 13723

                  #9
                  Why does everyone (okay almost everyone) blame the guy? Because he is 'just' virtual? If they can't handle virtual, simply don't offer virtual accounts....
                  Questions?

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                  • riddler
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 3726

                    #10
                    no shit, virtual customers should be treated just like a dedicated customer, hell the way most hosting companies over stuff boxes with virtual accounts they probably make more off virtuals then a person that just buys a dedicated

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                    • raddy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 186

                      #11
                      I don't take it as someone flaming me because I'm going for virtual, but it's true that nowadays support doesn't exist unless you specifically pay for it, and virtual accounts are all automated.

                      It's like calling AA.com on the phone and trying to speak to a human being.

                      I had TWO different show-stopper problems with the CP. You are correct in the fact that yesterday was a holiday and I guess I can understand that even though they offer a world-wide service with 99% guaranteed uptime, I should take holidays as poor support and non-service particular days.

                      I just wanted to share my unhappiness with you, I'm glad that you aren't having problems with them through dedicated. It may mean that once these problems are solved I can go ahead and trust the rest.

                      Let's hope for the best I'll keep you updated.

                      /R

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                      • pip
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 468

                        #12
                        I thought webair spent thousands upon thousands on impoving their virtual hosting system?

                        This is why I didn't buy from webair, Problems like this.

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                        • Steve Awesome
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 1575

                          #13
                          If I was WebAir I'd throw away that shit panel and get PLESK.

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                          • WebairGerard
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 8113

                            #14
                            Originally posted by raddy
                            I don't take it as someone flaming me because I'm going for virtual, but it's true that nowadays support doesn't exist unless you specifically pay for it, and virtual accounts are all automated.

                            It's like calling AA.com on the phone and trying to speak to a human being.

                            I had TWO different show-stopper problems with the CP. You are correct in the fact that yesterday was a holiday and I guess I can understand that even though they offer a world-wide service with 99% guaranteed uptime, I should take holidays as poor support and non-service particular days.

                            I just wanted to share my unhappiness with you, I'm glad that you aren't having problems with them through dedicated. It may mean that once these problems are solved I can go ahead and trust the rest.

                            Let's hope for the best I'll keep you updated.

                            /R
                            Hey Raddy. Please hit me up and I will help you out with this. My contact info is in sig. Thanks.

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                            • raddy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 186

                              #15
                              I have contacted Gerard over ICQ who is kindly looking into my problems and willing to take care of them personally.

                              Btw, I did add my personal account manager to ICQ as soon as I had these problems but he/she was never online.

                              Let's hope it gets fixed soon.

                              Thanks everyone!

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                              • V_RocKs
                                Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 32451

                                #16
                                The only GREAT... as in FUCKING AWESOME! Virtual accounts were at Serverprovider and I think they went out of business. Virtual accounts that acted like dedicated accounts. A true 99.9&#37; uptime.

                                Since then I have found no awesome ones but servage.net was decent. 96% uptime.

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                                • raddy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2006
                                  • 186

                                  #17
                                  Gerard and his team have fixed my problems with the accounts.

                                  It looks like everything is working normal now, thanks Gerard.

                                  /R

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                                  • frank7799
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 1974

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by raddy
                                    I don't take it as someone flaming me because I'm going for virtual, but it's true that nowadays support doesn't exist unless you specifically pay for it, and virtual accounts are all automated.
                                    I started with webair virtual accounts some years ago and can´t remember any bigger problems. I´m on dedicated for about two years, so I´m not sure how those virtuals work today.

                                    The control panel won´t win a design award, but it works for me. No problems setting up domains so far. I moved to three new boxes at the end of last month and did not have any problems moving the content.

                                    Regarding live support it´s quite expensive for cheap virtual accounts, so maybe it´s a service which you can not expect at pricing structure. Don´t know how other companies handle support, though.

                                    Good luck solving your problem!

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                                    • pip
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Nov 2005
                                      • 468

                                      #19
                                      What is the reason it wasn't working?

                                      Webair said in another thread they spent all this money to improve their virtual system.

                                      I was looking at webair unmetered, but haven't ordered yet because of people posting problems

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                                      • Vick!
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2005
                                        • 6882

                                        #20
                                        I am just amazed to see every webair whore suggesting to switch dedicated ... I wanna ask was you born in webair dedicated? Did you never used virtual hosts at start?

                                        Damn .. what is point in offering virtual host if you cannot offer quality customer service and above all satisfaction customer satisfaction? Or your whole mission is just to push dedicateds down your customer throat somehow after he buys virtual plan?

                                        I never used Webair, and probably never would .. just because of spam of webair whores in every other fucking thread, and trying to push newbie bloggers and small customers toward dedicated.

                                        To those who always vouch and tell they are fully satisfied with webair .. have you ever tried some other high quality web host? Or webair is your only standard to compare service quality?

                                        huh .. get a life spammers. You cannot pose big by saying "go dedicated.." ... everyone knows what he needs and when.

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                                        • pornguy
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 62910

                                          #21
                                          I tried to use them one time, and had a fucked up adventure as well.

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                                          • Jace
                                            FBOP Class Of 2013
                                            • Jan 2004
                                            • 35562

                                            #22
                                            jesus, so the solution for everyone is to instantly get dedicated servers now?

                                            if I had a dedicated box at EVERY single host I have an account with I would be broke, nationalnet has my dedicated, places like yellowfiber and the like have my virtuals...and NOT ONCE since I stopped using webair have I had ANY issues with a virtual server, no downtime, no sql issues, etc

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                                            • baddog
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Apr 2001
                                              • 107089

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Satan
                                              thats a virtual account for you,
                                              Why is that an excuse?

                                              Originally posted by raddy
                                              I don't take it as someone flaming me because I'm going for virtual, but it's true that nowadays support doesn't exist unless you specifically pay for it, and virtual accounts are all automated.
                                              Wrong. Some people treat all customers equally.

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                                              • martinsc
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jun 2005
                                                • 27043

                                                #24
                                                ouch... that sounds pretty bad...
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                                                • Vick!
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                  • 6882

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Jace
                                                  jesus, so the solution for everyone is to instantly get dedicated servers now?
                                                  No Jace. But this is the only solution in the eyes of spammers, whores, fake customers, people who are not even webmasters and don't know what they are talking about ... and those who has small e-penis and want to pose big by saying I have 5 dedicated with webair for 6 years and never had a problem.


                                                  They should go back and remember when they was searching google for "best virtual host" and "virtual host reviews" even worst, when they used to do gallery submission and use FHGs provided by sponsors and have not had host of their own ...

                                                  Retards.
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                                                  • BVF
                                                    Black Vagina Finder
                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 13975

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Vick!
                                                    I am just amazed to see every webair whore suggesting to switch dedicated ... I wanna ask was you born in webair dedicated? Did you never used virtual hosts at start?

                                                    Damn .. what is point in offering virtual host if you cannot offer quality customer service and above all satisfaction customer satisfaction? Or your whole mission is just to push dedicateds down your customer throat somehow after he buys virtual plan?

                                                    I never used Webair, and probably never would .. just because of spam of webair whores in every other fucking thread, and trying to push newbie bloggers and small customers toward dedicated.

                                                    To those who always vouch and tell they are fully satisfied with webair .. have you ever tried some other high quality web host? Or webair is your only standard to compare service quality?

                                                    huh .. get a life spammers. You cannot pose big by saying "go dedicated.." ... everyone knows what he needs and when.

                                                    I have a dedicated with webair but you're right...I started with a virtual way back in the day with a host called flashhost and they fucked me good and then I switched to a webair dedicated..And in some instances, one just doesn't need a dedicated server.

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                                                    • WebairGerard
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                      • 8113

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by raddy
                                                      Gerard and his team have fixed my problems with the accounts.

                                                      It looks like everything is working normal now, thanks Gerard.

                                                      /R
                                                      As you can see by Raddy's post above his issue has been fixed and he is happy with the service.

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                                                      • imabro
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2007
                                                        • 871

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by WebairGerard
                                                        As you can see by Raddy's post above his issue has been fixed and he is happy with the service.
                                                        39 hours and a gfy drama post later

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                                                        • st0ned
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                          • 8437

                                                          #29
                                                          I had the same exact problems. However when I contacted Gerard he got everything taken care of.
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                                                          • pip
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                            • 468

                                                            #30
                                                            Explain what happened? It seems everytime their is a problem Gerard flies into the thread and fixes it, but why wouldn't this have been done 30+ hours ago?

                                                            People wanting some virtual hosting, this doesn't look good at all.

                                                            An Explaination is what we all want.

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                                                            • Vick!
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                              • 6882

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by imabro
                                                              39 hours and a gfy drama post later
                                                              yeah .. gfy is solution to every fucking problem. Long live gfy
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                                                              • hateman
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 1623

                                                                #32
                                                                No live support?


                                                                LMAO, what a joke

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                                                                • kmanrox
                                                                  aka K-Man
                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                  • 29295

                                                                  #33
                                                                  wow 96 posts and a lil over a year as member and you make a post like this... amazing lol
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                                                                  • digifan
                                                                    The Profiler
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 14618

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Gerald is a nice guy indeed. What I hate is the spam I am getting
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                                                                    • Vick!
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                                      • 6882

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by hateman
                                                                      No live support?


                                                                      LMAO, what a joke
                                                                      hey man .. thanks for taking off that 4mb gif from your sig.
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                                                                      • Dennis69
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                        • 1685

                                                                        #36
                                                                        It's amazing that people still use Webair after all the stuff that gets posted on the board about them... I think they should give up the virtual accounts and stick to the dedicated bacause it seems to be the only thing they know how to run, as for the people saying get dedicated I've been running both virtual and dedicated for years now with Phatservers and get great service from both so *some* hosting companies do know how to chew bubble gum and walk a straight line at the same time
                                                                        HaHaHa

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                                                                        • Brujah
                                                                          Beer Money Baron
                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 22157

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Webair must be a decent hosting company with so many using them and vouching for them.

                                                                          He had a bad enough experience over a holiday weekend, and instead of knocking him for it this could give Webair a chance to improve their system. Those users who stick around may go dedicated and will base that decision on their virtual host experience. If I were to look at them as a hosting alternative I might have tried their virtual host first to get a feel for things and based my decision on that.

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                                                                          • imabro
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Aug 2007
                                                                            • 871

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                            He had a bad enough experience over a holiday weekend
                                                                            glad my host does not take MLK day off

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                                                                            • Jayvis
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                                              • 5430

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Sig spot hijacking.

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                                                                              • DateDoc
                                                                                Outside looking in.
                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                • 14243

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                The only GREAT... as in FUCKING AWESOME! Virtual accounts were at Serverprovider and I think they went out of business. Virtual accounts that acted like dedicated accounts. A true 99.9% uptime.
                                                                                www.serverprovider.com is very much alive.

                                                                                virtual - http://serverprovider.com/virtual.html
                                                                                dedicated - http://serverprovider.com/dedicated.html

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                                                                                • Sami
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                  • 2047

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                  The only GREAT... as in FUCKING AWESOME! Virtual accounts were at Serverprovider and I think they went out of business. Virtual accounts that acted like dedicated accounts. A true 99.9% uptime.

                                                                                  Since then I have found no awesome ones but servage.net was decent. 96% uptime.
                                                                                  Hi there,
                                                                                  We are not out of business


                                                                                  We've mainly focused on mainstream as of late , but if you do need managed dedicated servers.. do let me know

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                                                                                  • Barefootsies
                                                                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                                    • 42635

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                                                    Why does everyone (okay almost everyone) blame the guy? Because he is 'just' virtual? If they can't handle virtual, simply don't offer virtual accounts....
                                                                                    Amen.

                                                                                    I love when hosts dismiss a virtual as a nobody. I had a virtual with WA some time ago.

                                                                                    Funny, now I have 3 dedi servers. Their loss. You never know WHO is going to be the next dedi customer, and treating them like piss ants will just lose you business, and gain a mouthpiece on forums.

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                                                                                    • stev0
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                      • 6801

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by riddler
                                                                                      no shit, virtual customers should be treated just like a dedicated customer, hell the way most hosting companies over stuff boxes with virtual accounts they probably make more off virtuals then a person that just buys a dedicated
                                                                                      That's ridiculous, the guy paying $1000/month for hosting should always get priority over some guy with a $19.99 virtual plan. Not just because the host is making more money, but because if the $1000/month guy's stuff goes down it's costing a hell of a lot more every minute. Not saying the other guy should get poor service, but definitely shouldn't expect the same.

                                                                                      The guy staying in a luxury suite at the Hilton gets more perks than 10 guys crammed into a hostile, that's how life works and that's how hosting works.

                                                                                      That said, I had a virtual plan with webair 10 or so years ago, worked great for a long time then the HD failed and I lost everything and had to reupload. I also had a dedicated server for a couple years without a problem.
                                                                                      Last edited by stev0; 01-22-2008, 12:29 PM.

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                                                                                      • Violetta
                                                                                        Affiliate
                                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                                        • 28735

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        The CP has always worked great for me... Virtual and dedicated. No problems wether I added domains or ftp...
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                                                                                        • CyberHustler
                                                                                          Masterbaiter
                                                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                                                          • 28788

                                                                                          #45
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                                                                                          • Supz
                                                                                            Arthur Flegenheimer
                                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                                            • 11057

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            virtual and dedicated customers should all be treated the same. There are many hosts that offer both services, with all working control panel functions working fine. Excuses are like assholes, everyone has them and they all stink

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                                                                                            • OG LennyT
                                                                                              Wall Street Pimp
                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 14345

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I pay more in one month than you do for a year = no probs

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                                                                                              • brandonstills
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Dec 2007
                                                                                                • 1964

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                They never return my calls. I got a dedicated and I still can't even put up a single site on it yet.

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                                                                                                • L-Pink
                                                                                                  working on my tan
                                                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                                                  • 39151

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by brandonstills
                                                                                                  They never return my calls. I got a dedicated and I still can't even put up a single site on it yet.
                                                                                                  That's almost impossible to consider, aren't phone calls returned the same or at least the next day?

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                                                                                                  • baddog
                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                                    • 107089

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by brandonstills
                                                                                                    They never return my calls. I got a dedicated and I still can't even put up a single site on it yet.
                                                                                                    Good meeting you tonight.

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