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  • wehateporn
    Promoting Debate on GFY
    • Apr 2007
    • 27176
    #1

    Firefox Will Soon Block Third-Party Cookies

    Make sure each CCBill sponsor has IP Tracking switched on, if the cookie lasts over 3 days then IP Tracking is switched off.

    http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/02/...tm_medium=feed

    "Stanford researcher Jonathan Mayer has contributed a Firefox patch that will block third-party cookies by default. It's now on track to land in version 22. Kudos to Mozilla for protecting their users and being so open to community submissions. The initial response from the online advertising industry is unsurprisingly hostile and blustering, calling the move 'a nuclear first strike.'"


    CCBill

    "When the expiration value is greater than 3, no extra data will be logged to CCBill's database, so the cookie will be the only means of tracking a referred sale. If the surfer does not accept the cookie, the system will not be able to track them."
    Last edited by wehateporn; 02-24-2013, 01:08 AM.
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    • wehateporn
      Promoting Debate on GFY
      • Apr 2007
      • 27176
      #2
      Check each cookie here

      http://www.rexswain.com/httpview.html

      Once it's produced a load of data, search for "expires"
      Last edited by wehateporn; 02-24-2013, 01:15 AM.

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        • AmeliaG
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jan 2003
          • 10664
          #3
          So we want everything at the 3 default now?
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            • rowan
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Mar 2002
              • 17393
              #4
              If I understand correctly, a third party cookie is where an inline object such as javascript, an image, or an iframe is fetched from an external site, and sets a cookie.

              ccbill would NOT be affected because their tracking cookie is set when you click on a link to their domain.

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                • wehateporn
                  Promoting Debate on GFY
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 27176
                  #5
                  Originally posted by rowan
                  If I understand correctly, a third party cookie is where an inline object such as javascript, an image, or an iframe is fetched from an external site, and sets a cookie.

                  ccbill would NOT be affected because their tracking cookie is set when you click on a link to their domain.
                  I was wondering about this myself, I was hoping someone was going to come in and write what you have. Hopefully you're right

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                    • wehateporn
                      Promoting Debate on GFY
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 27176
                      #6
                      Originally posted by AmeliaG
                      So we want everything at the 3 default now?
                      If CCBill cookies will be blocked, then yes, or perhaps CCBill would increase their maximum IP Tracking.

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                        • wehateporn
                          Promoting Debate on GFY
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 27176
                          #7
                          "If a cookie is associated with a file requested from the same domain as the page you are viewing, it’s a first-party cookie. A cookie associated with a file requested from a different domain is a third-party cookie. That’s it."

                          "Notice that the same cookie can be a first-party cookie one moment and a third-party cookie the next. For instance, when you visit twitter.com your browser sets several cookies associated wth the *.twitter.com domain name. In the context of your stay on Twitter these are first-party cookies. If you then visit huffingtonpost.com, Huffington Post requests files from twitter.com and those requests include the same *.twitter.com cookies, which are now third-party cookies."

                          http://www.ravelrumba.com/blog/third-party-cookies/
                          Last edited by wehateporn; 02-24-2013, 01:50 AM.

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                            • wehateporn
                              Promoting Debate on GFY
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 27176
                              #8
                              According to CCBill if third party tracking data is not allowed and IP tracking is switched off, then there's another mechanism of tracking with lasts for 24 hours.

                              http://ccbill.com/cs/wiki/tiki-index...+for+a+sale%3F

                              "We track consumers primarily through a Cookie, in this case a Cookie is an Internet tracking device that is saved in a browser then tracked before and after a consumer sale. This Cookie can track anywhere from 3 (default) to 255 days depending on Sponsor Program settings. If the consumer does not accept third party cookie tracking data we have a redundancy in place that will track the sale for that consumer for 24 hours."

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                                • rowan
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 17393
                                  #9
                                  I'd say the redundancy mentioned is the IP. The only other way I can think of tracking without IPs and cookies would be passive browser fingerprinting, or something shifty like abuse of etags.

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                                    • ottopottomouse
                                      She is ugly, bad luck.
                                      • Jan 2010
                                      • 13177
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by rowan
                                      If I understand correctly, a third party cookie is where an inline object such as javascript, an image, or an iframe is fetched from an external site, and sets a cookie.

                                      ccbill would NOT be affected because their tracking cookie is set when you click on a link to their domain.
                                      this.

                                      I've always got 3rd party cookies blocked and anything I test tracks fine.
                                      ↑ see post ↑
                                      13101

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                                        • brentbacardi
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2009
                                          • 1425
                                          #11
                                          What is the big deal with cookies anyway? Customize users experience and tracking marketing spend are completely legitimate. I have never heard of someone getting their computer messed up over cookies or anything like that, why is everyone trying to get rid of them?
                                          Go Fuck Yourself!

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                                            • JamesM
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2012
                                              • 732
                                              #12
                                              technically it wont matter to ccbill links.


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                                                • Barry-xlovecam
                                                  It's 42
                                                  • Jun 2010
                                                  • 18083
                                                  #13
                                                  We do not use 3rd party cookies or cookies for Affiliate rev-share on Affiliate's registered members purchases.

                                                  Cookies have been obsoleted in many respects for some time now.

                                                  The third party cookie blocking is pointed toward advertising servers, i.e.; mainstream banner networks and the like mainly in mainstream -- porn and related advertising or billing is just seen as collateral damage.

                                                  IMHO, if you rely on HTTP Cookies or Flash SOL (flash cookies) you are bailing water with a leaky bucket.

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                                                    • Matt 26z
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                      • 18481
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by brentbacardi
                                                      What is the big deal with cookies anyway? Customize users experience and tracking marketing spend are completely legitimate. I have never heard of someone getting their computer messed up over cookies or anything like that, why is everyone trying to get rid of them?
                                                      It started when antivirus companies ran out of ideas for the first time. They had done all they could with virus detection and user interface improvements, so they created the tracking cookie boogie man. It was something new.

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                                                        • AdultPornMasta
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2012
                                                          • 1506
                                                          #15
                                                          Seems to me that IMers are going to have to get back to the basics............................................ ..........

                                                          Double-opt-in email lists come to mind.

                                                          "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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                                                            • brentbacardi
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2009
                                                              • 1425
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                              It started when antivirus companies ran out of ideas for the first time. They had done all they could with virus detection and user interface improvements, so they created the tracking cookie boogie man. It was something new.
                                                              What the fuck is a tracking cookie boogie man? Do you mean everlast cookies? Those are fucking serious, I tried to use one in real life (which as far as I know, they are not used) and accidentally set one on myself I could not get rid of. Fucked my site up for me. I think I still have the cookie but I had to change all my code to ignore the cookie!!!! Very hard to get rid of. But more people will use these fuckers when they can't use regular cookies anymore.

                                                              For those who don't know, everlast cookies are a grouping of "cookies" which some are not really cookies but they store multiple methods of the cookie data and/or will reload the cookie in all your browsers! So cache image will have code in it, regular cookie has code, flash cookie, silverlight data, and all sorts of programming shit you never deal with has little memory clusters where you can store and execute code to hold the cookie data or to execute to retrieve the cookie again if any one part is deleted. So you need to delete every single instance at once and then open your browser and you will be OK. Currently I think there are around 25 storage areas that have been discovered for the average system.
                                                              Last edited by brentbacardi; 02-24-2013, 07:31 PM.
                                                              Go Fuck Yourself!

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                                                                • AdultPornMasta
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2012
                                                                  • 1506
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by brentbacardi
                                                                  What the fuck is a tracking cookie boogie man? Do you mean everlast cookies? Those are fucking serious, I tried to use one in real life (which as far as I know, they are not used) and accidentally set one on myself I could not get rid of. Fucked my site up for me. I think I still have the cookie but I had to change all my code to ignore the cookie!!!! Very hard to get rid of.
                                                                  You didn't do it right.

                                                                  "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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                                                                    • SleazyDream
                                                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                      • 41470
                                                                      #18
                                                                      it gets harder and harder to be an affiliate these days
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                                                                        • brentbacardi
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Nov 2009
                                                                          • 1425
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by AdultPornMasta
                                                                          You didn't do it right.

                                                                          What makes you say that?
                                                                          Go Fuck Yourself!

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