how much are we talking about. Any amount of money owed and not paid is bad but just curious how many people he hasn't paid. Are these affiliates or people he hired to do work for him ? If it is affiliates then I guess he didn't use ccbill ?
not much. just an affiliate payout. he uses nats. although i hate to say it, it's just the principle of the thing.
not much. just an affiliate payout. he uses nats. although i hate to say it, it's just the principle of the thing.
As i stated in my thread, everyone is going to be paid out. I have already started to pay some affiliates out and the rest are going to be paid any day now.
As i stated in my thread, everyone is going to be paid out. I have already started to pay some affiliates out and the rest are going to be paid any day now.
As i stated in my thread, everyone is going to be paid out. I have already started to pay some affiliates out and the rest are going to be paid any day now.
you say that every time i post. and no, i don't use icq.
Originally posted by Batts
As i stated in my thread, everyone is going to be paid out. I have already started to pay some affiliates out and the rest are going to be paid any day now.
Wise move to get out. This is a small town and girls talk. You can't expect to get much from your models when you want them to suck your cock at the end of a shoot.
And when you promise them they'll make between $20,000 and $40,000 and you don't deliver the cash. Do you think they're going to open up their bodies to you?? And keep coming back for more explicit stuff when they feel you're just going to jump their bones.
No No No
Did you get into this industry to get laid? Or to make a shit load of cash overnight ?
Annie
webmistress
Girls Out West
What were your motives? What did you get out of it? What lessons did you learn?
I shoot all my own content, and run the site. And I am a real female. I live in the same city as Batts and I haven't heard one good thing about him (from the models or industry people).
Honesty and integrity will get you further in this business than the desire to make cash from looking at pussy all day long.
The models make a living out of selling sex, a BJ cant be that big of a deal, or did he refuse them payment if they didnt do it? Was it agreed before? Did they get paid extra? Would I do or suggest something like that myself? no
I think that Batts is more than a "overnight" webmaster, his sexual habbits or lack of the same is none of my business, and none of your business neither.
IF they where asked "just" to give a blowjob, they where way better treated than so many other models in the business
The models make a living out of selling sex, a BJ cant be that big of a deal, or did he refuse them payment if they didnt do it? Was it agreed before? Did they get paid extra? Would I do or suggest something like that myself? no
I think that Batts is more than a "overnight" webmaster, his sexual habbits or lack of the same is none of my business, and none of your business neither.
IF they where asked "just" to give a blowjob, they where way better treated than so many other models in the business
Just because a model is posing nude doesn't mean she is ok with unwarranted sexual advances. Saying something like "a BJ can't be that big of a deal" is just plain ignorant.
"WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Just because a model is posing nude doesn't mean she is ok with unwarranted sexual advances. Saying something like "a BJ can't be that big of a deal" is just plain ignorant.
politely asking a woman who just spread her pussy in front of you for a blowjob is NOT a big deal no matter who says it's ignorant...
now trying to force or coerce a model into sucking your dick is a whole different story.
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How normal is it to get a blowjob by one of the models after the shoot?
is that out of the ordinary? I have never been to a content shooting so I really wouldn't know.
the usual way is to get a BJ during the shoot is with a release, on camera and pay the modeling and agency fee... that pretty much clears up every problem with BJ's and shooting. any other way than that is a problem looking to happen. -bmb
I will get to the bottom of it for you right quick.
in vegas right now so not easy to get in touch with me, but he knows the epass of one of the people im with to send the last of it to so that I can get the money here
in vegas right now so not easy to get in touch with me, but he knows the epass of one of the people im with to send the last of it to so that I can get the money here
ICQ is pretty easy mate
I never chase anything without first discussing facts as they stand. That is foolish.
The models make a living out of selling sex, a BJ cant be that big of a deal, or did he refuse them payment if they didnt do it? Was it agreed before? Did they get paid extra? Would I do or suggest something like that myself? no
I think that Batts is more than a "overnight" webmaster, his sexual habbits or lack of the same is none of my business, and none of your business neither.
IF they where asked "just" to give a blowjob, they where way better treated than so many other models in the business
the smart content producer will pair models together that actually like each other.
then the content is appealing to surfers and it might convert.
very difficult to sell content (especially POV content) when you just know the girl hates being there.
there are a whole bunch of "content producers" who look like they couldn't get laid in a whorehouse with a fist full of fifties, and some of these guys are trying to sell POV content.
they might as well title the series cum dodger18, 19, 20.
this shit does not convert to surfers, it might have in 1999, will not in 2008.
Batts
Is the site you are trying to sell abbywinters.com `? Please contact me to discuss a possible sale of site / content / money owed to your webmasters and such
Batts
Is the site you are trying to sell abbywinters.com `? Please contact me to discuss a possible sale of site / content / money owed to your webmasters and such
if Batts won't sell you AbbyWinters.com hit me up, I've got an excellent package I can sell you at a good price - Alscan.com, MattsModels.com and I'll throw in TawneeStone.com.
lemme know
I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!
if Batts won't sell you AbbyWinters.com hit me up, I've got an excellent package I can sell you at a good price - Alscan.com, MattsModels.com and I'll throw in TawneeStone.com.
if Batts won't sell you AbbyWinters.com hit me up, I've got an excellent package I can sell you at a good price - Alscan.com, MattsModels.com and I'll throw in TawneeStone.com.
lemme know
Shit, for a moment I thought abbywinters was his site, it's a good looking site and was surprised that it was a failure, seems that is not the case
Batts
Is the site you are trying to sell abbywinters.com `? Please contact me to discuss a possible sale of site / content / money owed to your webmasters and such
I must say that is quite possibly the funniest thing I have read on GFY.
Curious to see Batts' response to this, serious allegations.
He does not need to. some of the richest people in the business, not me, got into the business to get laid, again not me. It's how you get laid that makes the difference.
Last edited by Paul Markham; 01-17-2008, 10:38 PM.
Batts
Is the site you are trying to sell abbywinters.com `? Please contact me to discuss a possible sale of site / content / money owed to your webmasters and such
the smart content producer will pair models together that actually like each other.
then the content is appealing to surfers and it might convert.
very difficult to sell content (especially POV content) when you just know the girl hates being there.
there are a whole bunch of "content producers" who look like they couldn't get laid in a whorehouse with a fist full of fifties, and some of these guys are trying to sell POV content.
they might as well title the series cum dodger18, 19, 20.
this shit does not convert to surfers, it might have in 1999, will not in 2008.
Yes, I have now been paid in full and will no longer speak on this subject. I wish I never had to take it to the boards in the first place as I prefer to deal with this type of shit in private.
Again, I have been paid in full and wish Batt's nothing but the best of luck in his next ventures.
CTB, you have been straight forward since day 1 several yrs ago, I thank you for your assistance in this matter.
It was never my intention to harm Batt's rep or his business, and sadly with the threads created, it has done just as much harm to myself.
Newbs.. take note... sometimes ya gotta know when to hold them and know when to fold them, choose your battles carefully and always be ready for your next step to be off a cliff with no landing point in sight.
Wise move to get out. This is a small town and girls talk. You can't expect to get much from your models when you want them to suck your cock at the end of a shoot.
And when you promise them they'll make between $20,000 and $40,000 and you don't deliver the cash. Do you think they're going to open up their bodies to you?? And keep coming back for more explicit stuff when they feel you're just going to jump their bones.
No No No
Did you get into this industry to get laid? Or to make a shit load of cash overnight ?
Annie
webmistress
Girls Out West
What were your motives? What did you get out of it? What lessons did you learn?
I shoot all my own content, and run the site. And I am a real female. I live in the same city as Batts and I haven't heard one good thing about him (from the models or industry people).
Honesty and integrity will get you further in this business than the desire to make cash from looking at pussy all day long.
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