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  • Pornaffs
    Registered User
    • Apr 2012
    • 57

    #1

    Why can't I get any affiliates to sign up?

    PORNaffs.com... I have 3DSexParadise.com and 3DGay.com. Is the 3D niche dead? Is anyone still promoting it? What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any comments/advice...
    Last edited by Pornaffs; 01-19-2013, 12:41 PM.

    PORNaffs.com sell 3DSexParadise.com & 3DGay.com ben*pornaffs.com
  • Penny24Seven
    So Fucking What
    • Jun 2007
    • 6287

    #2
    LOL I have hundreds that have signed up but never sent a single hit, That will be your next thread. Maybe I have to email them or something. Never tried that
    Our site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and Penny

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    • Some Guy
      Affordable Content!
      • Dec 2001
      • 1750

      #3
      With the economy (and porn industry) as fucked as it is, people probably don't want to spend their money on what's basically cartoons having sex. It's hard enough to make sales for an actual porn site.

      As somewhat of an artist I have a lot of respect for those 3D sites, don't get me wrong. I just don't see them being big moneymakers anytime soon.

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      • Profits of Doom
        Monster Rain
        • Feb 2004
        • 4978

        #4
        Is pornaffs.com the affiliate program or is 3dxbucks.com?
        “My Free Cams Affiliate Program by CrakRevenue”

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        • 2013
          So Fucking Banned
          • Dec 2012
          • 4390

          #5
          No money in porn

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          • signupdamnit
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2007
            • 6697

            #6
            With Pornhub and others giving away everyone's content for free (and with some sponsors helping it along by giving them content they won't give their affiliates) ratios have crashed on affiliates and many have left the industry. Combine that with rampant shaving and it has sent even more away. I have sponsors who did an acceptable 1:2,000 for the last couple years who suddenly started doing 1:9,000 in July and ever since (on MPA3). There is a certain dating sponsor who went from 1:1000 to over 1:4000 last April and now shaves at least 1/3 of my uniques based on my data. Then there is an even bigger dating sponsor who completely crashed around September for new joins and rebills. This kind of thing sends affiliates away and we get skeptical when new sponsors come along and decide it may not be worth the hassle trying to push you. You are doing one thing right at least. You are using CCBill which makes it less risky to try out a new site. I might give you a shot. You can't be any worse than 1/9000, right? ;)
            Last edited by signupdamnit; 01-19-2013, 01:04 PM.

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            • Harmon
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              • Mar 2004
              • 20012

              #7
              Signs of the times
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              • Pornaffs
                Registered User
                • Apr 2012
                • 57

                #8
                Originally posted by Profits of Doom
                Is pornaffs.com the affiliate program or is 3dxbucks.com?
                pornaffs.com is the aff program although it hasn't really begun yet...

                PORNaffs.com sell 3DSexParadise.com & 3DGay.com ben*pornaffs.com

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                • Some Guy
                  Affordable Content!
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 1750

                  #9
                  Originally posted by signupdamnit
                  With Pornhub and others giving away everyone's content for free (and with some sponsors helping it along by giving them content they won't give their affiliates) ratios have crashed on affiliates and many have left the industry. Combine that with rampant shaving and it has sent even more away.
                  This.

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                  • Pornaffs
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 57

                    #10
                    Originally posted by signupdamnit
                    With Pornhub and others giving away everyone's content for free (and with some sponsors helping it along by giving them content they won't give their affiliates) ratios have crashed on affiliates and many have left the industry. Combine that with rampant shaving and it has sent even more away. I have sponsors who did an acceptable 1:2,000 for the last couple years who suddenly started doing 1:9,000 in July and ever since (on MPA3). There is a certain dating sponsor who went from 1:1000 to over 1:4000 last April and now shaves at least 1/3 of my uniques based on my data. Then there is an even bigger dating sponsor who completely crashed around September for new joins and rebills. This kind of thing sends affiliates away and we get skeptical when new sponsors come along and decide it may not be worth the hassle trying to push you. You are doing one thing right at least. You are using CCBill which makes it less risky to try out a new site. I might give you a shot. You can't be any worse than 1/9000, right? ;)
                    if i can't do better than 1/9000 i'm going to pull the plug and go work at walmart...


                    PORNaffs.com sell 3DSexParadise.com & 3DGay.com ben*pornaffs.com

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                    • Profits of Doom
                      Monster Rain
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 4978

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pornaffs
                      pornaffs.com is the aff program although it hasn't really begun yet...
                      Are you affiliated with 3dxbucks? Some nice sites in there, and they are also still listed as your affiliate program on 3dsexparadise.com...
                      “My Free Cams Affiliate Program by CrakRevenue”

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                      • Pornaffs
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 57

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Profits of Doom
                        Are you affiliated with 3dxbucks? Some nice sites in there, and they are also still listed as your affiliate program on 3dsexparadise.com...
                        i was going to sell under 3dxbucks but decided to start a new program and concentrate on only a 2 or 3 brands max.. 3dx does well with 3dgirlz2..

                        PORNaffs.com sell 3DSexParadise.com & 3DGay.com ben*pornaffs.com

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                        • Profits of Doom
                          Monster Rain
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 4978

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pornaffs
                          i was going to sell under 3dxbucks but decided to start a new program and concentrate on only a 2 or 3 brands max.. 3dx does well with 3dgirlz2..
                          Ah ok gotcha, well that could be part of the reason you aren't getting affiliates to sign up, if they see your site and see 3dxbucks as the webmaster link they are probably signing up there...
                          “My Free Cams Affiliate Program by CrakRevenue”

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                          • Pornaffs
                            Registered User
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 57

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Profits of Doom
                            Ah ok gotcha, well that could be part of the reason you aren't getting affiliates to sign up, if they see your site and see 3dxbucks as the webmaster link they are probably signing up there...
                            yea i'm fixing it now thanks for pointing that out doom...

                            PORNaffs.com sell 3DSexParadise.com & 3DGay.com ben*pornaffs.com

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                            • signupdamnit
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6697

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Pornaffs
                              if i can't do better than 1/9000 i'm going to pull the plug and go work at walmart...

                              The problem is they all say this. The other problem is affiliate tracking is never that great and you'll do much better than your average affiliate will for different reasons. When sponsors don't convert better than 1:2000 or somewhere thereabouts it soon gets to the point where the affiliate is just providing free branding. It barely covers the costs on some video sites. Just sharing my perspective here and answering your question. There is a good chance your site does better if you are keeping the content under lock and key.

                              You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                              • Profits of Doom
                                Monster Rain
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 4978

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Pornaffs
                                yea i'm fixing it now thanks for pointing that out doom...
                                No worries man, cartoon and 3D porn is far from my specialty but I've been planning on building a few blogs and giving it a shot, I'll sign up to your program...
                                “My Free Cams Affiliate Program by CrakRevenue”

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                                • Mike Dutch
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 5607

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Some Guy
                                  With the economy (and porn industry) as fucked as it is, people probably don't want to spend their money on what's basically cartoons having sex. It's hard enough to make sales for an actual porn site.

                                  As somewhat of an artist I have a lot of respect for those 3D sites, don't get me wrong. I just don't see them being big moneymakers anytime soon.
                                  These products are heavy pushed on Tubesite ads [top 15 tubes] and got high CPM's, these products compete and cash hard ;)

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                                  • Mike Dutch
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 5607

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Pornaffs
                                    PORNaffs.com... I have 3DSexParadise.com and 3DGay.com. Is the 3D niche dead? Is anyone still promoting it? What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any comments/advice...
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                                    • CurrentlySober
                                      Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 38957

                                      #19
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                                      • Bogdan
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Dec 2012
                                        • 384

                                        #20
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                                        • scubadiver626
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2006
                                          • 1034

                                          #21
                                          Most affiliates stick to top converting niche sites. I want rebills, I'm getting lazy trying new programs.
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                                          • Pornaffs
                                            Registered User
                                            • Apr 2012
                                            • 57

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by scubadiver626
                                            Most affiliates stick to top converting niche sites. I want rebills, I'm getting lazy trying new programs.
                                            ccbill is great with rebills and i think both of these sites will convert well especially 3dgay.com for gay traffic...

                                            PORNaffs.com sell 3DSexParadise.com & 3DGay.com ben*pornaffs.com

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                                            • Webmaster Advertising
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Sep 2003
                                              • 1360

                                              #23
                                              I can't say why others haven't signed up but here are the reasons I didn't:

                                              1) Your site (both of them) look like crap, almost like we've been transported back to the 80's or early 90's, I would highly suggest getting a 'real' designer to redevelop both your paysite and affiliate program site.

                                              2) Your affiliate site tells me NOTHING about why I should be promoting you, how much do you offer, whats the minimum payout, how well does the site convert, average ratios, promo tools, what happens if i need to get in touch with you about something, etc...

                                              3) See #1

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                                              • Pornaffs
                                                Registered User
                                                • Apr 2012
                                                • 57

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Webmaster Advertising
                                                I can't say why others haven't signed up but here are the reasons I didn't:

                                                1) Your site (both of them) look like crap, almost like we've been transported back to the 80's or early 90's, I would highly suggest getting a 'real' designer to redevelop both your paysite and affiliate program site.

                                                2) Your affiliate site tells me NOTHING about why I should be promoting you, how much do you offer, whats the minimum payout, how well does the site convert, average ratios, promo tools, what happens if i need to get in touch with you about something, etc...

                                                3) See #1
                                                1) i know sites that look worse and have had over a million in sales in 2 years... (but you're right they do look a little outdated.)

                                                2) i just started...

                                                PORNaffs.com sell 3DSexParadise.com & 3DGay.com ben*pornaffs.com

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                                                • pornmasta
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jun 2006
                                                  • 20019

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Pornaffs
                                                  PORNaffs.com... I have 3DSexParadise.com and 3DGay.com. Is the 3D niche dead? Is anyone still promoting it? What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any comments/advice...
                                                  seriously, it's not the first time that i see your ads...

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                                                  • pornmasta
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jun 2006
                                                    • 20019

                                                    #26
                                                    http://pornaffs.com/members.html

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                                                    • pornmasta
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                      • 20019

                                                      #27
                                                      ok so it's pornaffs ?

                                                      now i go to http://pornaffs.com/sites.html

                                                      i go to sex paradise:
                                                      http://www.3dsexparadise.com/

                                                      i scroll down, webmaster link, and i'm redirected to http://www.3dxbucks.com/
                                                      and not pornaffs...
                                                      Last edited by pornmasta; 01-20-2013, 10:20 AM.

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                                                      • baddog
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                        • 107089

                                                        #28
                                                        Would you rather have 300 people sign up that never send a hit? Was the 3D niche ever popular?

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                                                        • MrDeiz
                                                          • May 2008
                                                          • 9802

                                                          #29
                                                          we are promoting your site under 3D X Bucks
                                                          is that okay?
                                                          http://www.signbucks.com/sites/view/...d_sex_paradise
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                                                          • pornmasta
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Jun 2006
                                                            • 20019

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by MrDeiz
                                                            we are promoting your site under 3D X Bucks
                                                            is that okay?
                                                            http://www.signbucks.com/sites/view/...d_sex_paradise
                                                            i agree there is a problem somewhere

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                                                            • pornmasta
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jun 2006
                                                              • 20019

                                                              #31
                                                              "What forms of payment do you offer? Do you pay out through paypal?

                                                              Answer: Checks, Wires, ACH, Epassporte. No, we do not offer paypal as a payment option"

                                                              for a ccbill program ?

                                                              http://pornaffs.com/faq.html

                                                              (last update of the page: 08/19/2012)

                                                              "What company will I receive payments from?

                                                              Answer: CCbill"
                                                              Last edited by pornmasta; 01-20-2013, 10:25 AM.

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                                                              • pornmasta
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jun 2006
                                                                • 20019

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by pornmasta
                                                                "What forms of payment do you offer? Do you pay out through paypal?

                                                                Answer: Checks, Wires, ACH, Epassporte. No, we do not offer paypal as a payment option"

                                                                Domain Name: PORNAFFS.COM
                                                                Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
                                                                Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
                                                                Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
                                                                Name Server: NS1.PORNAFFS.COM
                                                                Name Server: NS2.PORNAFFS.COM
                                                                Status: clientDeleteProhibited
                                                                Status: clientRenewProhibited
                                                                Status: clientTransferProhibited
                                                                Status: clientUpdateProhibited
                                                                Updated Date: 29-oct-2012
                                                                Creation Date: 15-nov-2011
                                                                Expiration Date: 15-nov-2014


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                                                                • pornmasta
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Jun 2006
                                                                  • 20019

                                                                  #33
                                                                  i checked the account id of a possible transaction and at 3dsexparadise.com it was, 944500 so like pornaffs, while at 3dstripper, it is 931191 (like for 3dxbucks.com)

                                                                  something stinks here..

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                                                                  • Pornaffs
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Apr 2012
                                                                    • 57

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pornmasta
                                                                    ok so it's pornaffs ?

                                                                    now i go to http://pornaffs.com/sites.html

                                                                    i go to sex paradise:
                                                                    http://www.3dsexparadise.com/

                                                                    i scroll down, webmaster link, and i'm redirected to http://www.3dxbucks.com/
                                                                    and not pornaffs...
                                                                    i'm fixing that now... ccbill billing and tracking are all through pornaffs...

                                                                    PORNaffs.com sell 3DSexParadise.com & 3DGay.com ben*pornaffs.com

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                                                                    • baddog
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                      • 107089

                                                                      #35
                                                                      ePassporte?

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                                                                      • Pornaffs
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Apr 2012
                                                                        • 57

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by MrDeiz
                                                                        we are promoting your site under 3D X Bucks
                                                                        is that okay?
                                                                        http://www.signbucks.com/sites/view/...d_sex_paradise
                                                                        i just clicked your link and its tracking through pornaffs... signup under pornaffs though so i can adjust your rev share higher... thanks man

                                                                        PORNaffs.com sell 3DSexParadise.com & 3DGay.com ben*pornaffs.com

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                                                                        • pornmasta
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jun 2006
                                                                          • 20019

                                                                          #37
                                                                          pornaffs:
                                                                          go to http://www.3dsexparadise.com/ scroll down the page.
                                                                          You see "$$ Webmasters Click Here $$ "
                                                                          http://www.3dxbucks.com/

                                                                          can you please update it to pornaffs, to make sure that people are credited for their sales ?
                                                                          Btw why do you split your websites in 2 webmaster programs ?
                                                                          To try to shave people ?

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                                                                          • Roald
                                                                            SecretFriends.com
                                                                            • May 2001
                                                                            • 27910

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Mike Dutch
                                                                            These products are heavy pushed on Tubesite ads [top 15 tubes] and got high CPM's, these products compete and cash hard ;)
                                                                            Of course, people are curious when they see these cartoon ads and fall for the "free" to join attached to it ;))


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                                                                            • Wilsy
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2009
                                                                              • 1865

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Damn dude if you haven't already hit Mike Dutch up ASAP if you can accommodate them few requests for him you have hit jackpot, them guys know how to push traffic, great crew..
                                                                              Affiliate Manager

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                                                                              • Pornaffs
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Apr 2012
                                                                                • 57

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by pornmasta
                                                                                pornaffs:
                                                                                go to http://www.3dsexparadise.com/ scroll down the page.
                                                                                You see "$$ Webmasters Click Here $$ "
                                                                                http://www.3dxbucks.com/

                                                                                can you please update it to pornaffs, to make sure that people are credited for their sales ?
                                                                                Btw why do you split your websites in 2 webmaster programs ?
                                                                                To try to shave people ?
                                                                                it's updated, and no these are new sites with barely any sales yet they haven't been promoted.. i'm just starting out...

                                                                                PORNaffs.com sell 3DSexParadise.com & 3DGay.com ben*pornaffs.com

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                                                                                • pornmasta
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Jun 2006
                                                                                  • 20019

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Pornaffs
                                                                                  it's updated, and no these are new sites with barely any sales yet they haven't been promoted.. i'm just starting out...
                                                                                  Domain Name: 3DSEXPARADISE.COM
                                                                                  Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
                                                                                  Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
                                                                                  Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
                                                                                  Name Server: NS1.3DSEXPARADISE.COM
                                                                                  Name Server: NS2.3DSEXPARADISE.COM
                                                                                  Status: clientDeleteProhibited
                                                                                  Status: clientRenewProhibited
                                                                                  Status: clientTransferProhibited
                                                                                  Status: clientUpdateProhibited
                                                                                  Updated Date: 18-dec-2012
                                                                                  Creation Date: 17-feb-2012
                                                                                  Expiration Date: 17-feb-2013

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                                                                                  • Pornaffs
                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                    • Apr 2012
                                                                                    • 57

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by pornmasta
                                                                                    Domain Name: 3DSEXPARADISE.COM
                                                                                    Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
                                                                                    Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
                                                                                    Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
                                                                                    Name Server: NS1.3DSEXPARADISE.COM
                                                                                    Name Server: NS2.3DSEXPARADISE.COM
                                                                                    Status: clientDeleteProhibited
                                                                                    Status: clientRenewProhibited
                                                                                    Status: clientTransferProhibited
                                                                                    Status: clientUpdateProhibited
                                                                                    Updated Date: 18-dec-2012
                                                                                    Creation Date: 17-feb-2012
                                                                                    Expiration Date: 17-feb-2013
                                                                                    yea man i wasn't really motivated to work on this until now... stop trying to find something wrong with it and sell.

                                                                                    PORNaffs.com sell 3DSexParadise.com & 3DGay.com ben*pornaffs.com

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                                                                                    • pornmasta
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                                                      • 20019

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      well i tried something with the 3dstripped
                                                                                      I have traffic that should convert

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                                                                                      • adultmobile
                                                                                        No, I am not banned
                                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                                        • 5345

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Brian837
                                                                                        LOL I have hundreds that have signed up but never sent a single hit
                                                                                        Yes same here, only 1 every like 100 affiliate signups will send hits... but I think lots of them click here and there and signup and not even know what they're doing, it's not affiliates in first place.
                                                                                        Afew people signups on a month then start sent hits after 1-3 or even 6 months, however, it's just... like when I made an account in plugrush, deposit $$ there, and used it after like a year as I was lazy to read how it worked.

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                                                                                        • Pornaffs
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Apr 2012
                                                                                          • 57

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by pornmasta
                                                                                          well i tried something with the 3dstripped
                                                                                          I have traffic that should convert
                                                                                          3dstripper is a different program... promote 3dsexparadise instead...

                                                                                          PORNaffs.com sell 3DSexParadise.com & 3DGay.com ben*pornaffs.com

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                                                                                          • HandballJim
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Sep 2008
                                                                                            • 4024

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I'll sign up eventually since I am working on an Adult Games site
                                                                                            HOW I MAKE LOTS OF $$$

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                                                                                            • pornmasta
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jun 2006
                                                                                              • 20019

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by HandballJim
                                                                                              I'll sign up eventually since I am working on an Adult Games site
                                                                                              what's your website ?

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                                                                                              • HandballJim
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Sep 2008
                                                                                                • 4024

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by pornmasta
                                                                                                what's your website ?
                                                                                                its just a domain at the moment, in the process of reviewing WP themes...
                                                                                                HOW I MAKE LOTS OF $$$

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                                                                                                • RyuLion
                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                  • 32370

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by 2013
                                                                                                  No money in porn

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                                                                                                  • CurrentlySober
                                                                                                    Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 38957

                                                                                                    #50
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