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  • AndyA
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 1670
    #1

    Gun Control in the US

    OK after watching that Piers Morgan clip it makes me sick that we have this debate over semi automatic weapons and the gun nuts come back with "well if the teachers were armed" bullshit
    I say the President should grow some balls and say "we are going to look at the Constitution as it was ORIGINALLY intended BEFORE the second amendment"

    THEN say you want to take away ALL guns even handguns except for law enforcement or military.....

    you start with THAT argument and these fucks will be begging to only ban their precious semi automatic weapons
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    • AndyA
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 1670
      #2
      problem is they start with just banning semi automatic military weapons and there is nowhere to negotiate..... if this doesnt change things than clearly nothing will

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        • _Richard_
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Oct 2006
          • 30991
          #3
          why edit the current constitution, when adding the 'bill of rights' put forward by FDR would not only solve this problem, but many problems

          edit: second bill of rights

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights
          Last edited by _Richard_; 12-19-2012, 08:28 AM.

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            • GFED
              Confirmed User
              • May 2002
              • 8121
              #4
              I may be out of the loop, but didn't the president already say fuck the constitution and is making moves to forcefully disarm Americans as we speak?
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                • AndyA
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 1670
                  #5
                  no he's not

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                    • Makaveli
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 1027
                      #6
                      Obama has no interest in banning any guns or taking guns away. He's going to push for stricter laws to obtain certain guns. Which makes perfect sense.

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                        • onwebcam
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                          • Oct 2005
                          • 27689
                          #7
                          Over 11,000 people died from DUI related accidents. Around 8,500 from guns. Should we ban cars too?
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                            • L-Pink
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                              • Mar 2005
                              • 39151
                              #8
                              Mentally disturbed, loner, violent video game playing, social misfits looking for attention, suicidal losers should make me give up my guns. Never happen.

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                                • AndyA
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 1670
                                  #9
                                  yes we should ban cars smart ass.... and cancer.... and heart disease....

                                  what an arguement.... that's what my kids say....

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                                    • AndyA
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 1670
                                      #10
                                      I'm not saying ban guns I'm saying it's time to stop the pandering and walking on eggshells with the gun nuts... if you need an assault rifle... I mean, WTF assault rifles....
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                                        • Scott McD
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                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 67798
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by AndyA
                                          and the gun nuts come back with "well if the teachers were armed" bullshit
                                          Basically everyone should be armed like Arnie in the Terminator movies according to some people.

                                          Someone got stabbed where i live just over a week ago. I guess i should start to carry a knife with me...


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                                            • pornguy
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                                              • Mar 2003
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by GFED
                                              I may be out of the loop, but didn't the president already say fuck the constitution and is making moves to forcefully disarm Americans as we speak?
                                              hehehe.. Good luck with that. it will start another civil war. armed against some of the military, and oh wait then the government will have to arm more people to fight it.
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                                                • brassmonkey
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                                                  • Sep 2005
                                                  • 77397
                                                  #13
                                                  its not about guns! its about family structure. the knowledge of using a weapon.
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                                                    • _Richard_
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                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                      • 30991
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by onwebcam
                                                      Over 11,000 people died from DUI related accidents. Around 8,500 from guns. Should we ban cars too?
                                                      100,000 deaths occur each year due to the effects of alcohol.Correction: According to the NHTSA web site (nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-30/NCSA/RNotes/2006/810686.pdf), there were 43,443 alcohol related traffic fatalities in 2005 in the USA. As a comparison, AIDS claimed 18,000 lives in 2003.
                                                      killing more people than AIDS since the dawn of time!

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                                                        • baddog
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                          • 107089
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by AndyA
                                                          I'm not saying ban guns I'm saying it's time to stop the pandering and walking on eggshells with the gun nuts... if you need an assault rifle... I mean, WTF assault rifles....
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                                                          I suspect you are unclear on what makes an "assault rifle."

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                                                            • baggg
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Mar 2012
                                                              • 1432
                                                              #16
                                                              Hurr dey take away muh free-duhm!We need gunz to protect ourselfs from the a-rab turruris' !!444Muh free dooommm

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                                                                • GFED
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                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                  • 8121
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Aren't assault rifles FULLY AUTOMATIC or has the term been extended to include all semi automatic firearms like the AR15/AK47 just because of their popularity?

                                                                  Good thing they outlawed carrying balisong knifes because those are way more dangerous than others.
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                                                                    • AndyA
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                      • 1670
                                                                      #18
                                                                      every gun owner I know has the same shithead fantasy that in the middle of the night, they will hear a rustling at the window or door... and they will tip toe and get their gun and save the day by shooting the intruder... that shit never happens

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                                                                        • xholly
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                                                                          • Jan 2009
                                                                          • 817
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by onwebcam
                                                                          Over 11,000 people died from DUI related accidents. Around 8,500 from guns. Should we ban cars too?
                                                                          Seriously you guys gotta drop this type of argument already, put forward a pro gun point if you like I dont care but just say something that makes a little sense and is not totally retarded.

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                                                                            • baddog
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                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                              • 107089
                                                                              #20

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                                                                                • L-Pink
                                                                                  working on my tan
                                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                                  • 39151
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                  Quit using actual facts.

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                                                                                    • AndyA
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                      • 1670
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      unfortunately everyone has guns
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                                                                                      PS- my rant on assault rifles goes ONLY for non Webmaster Central users... if your a client of Webmaster Central and you LIKE assault rifles... I'm totally cool with it hehehe

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                                                                                        • xholly
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                                                                                          • Jan 2009
                                                                                          • 817
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by AndyA
                                                                                          every gun owner I know has the same shithead fantasy that in the middle of the night, they will hear a rustling at the window or door... and they will tip toe and get their gun and save the day by shooting the intruder... that shit never happens
                                                                                          yeah it does happen, then they realize they just killed their son stumbling home after a few drinks.

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                                                                                            • buzzard
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                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 1276
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Life is dangerous. Ban everything.

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                                                                                                • PR_Glen
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2006
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by onwebcam
                                                                                                  Over 11,000 people died from DUI related accidents. Around 8,500 from guns. Should we ban cars too?
                                                                                                  drinking and driving is already illegal, your argument is absolutely feeble.. try again
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                                                                                                    • PR_Glen
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                                                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                                                      • 9058
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                      Quit using actual facts.
                                                                                                      cherry picked facts for different problems is a complete waste of time, try again.
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                                                                                                        • L-Pink
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                                                                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                                                                          • 39151
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                                                          drinking and driving is already illegal, your argument is absolutely feeble.. try again
                                                                                                          Murder is also already illegal so shooting someone should already be covered. Correct? No new gun laws needed.

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                                                                                                            • Si
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                                                                                                              • Feb 2008
                                                                                                              • 13900
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                              Tabacco use - Personal choice.

                                                                                                              Medical Errors - Different set of variables altogether.

                                                                                                              Unintentional Injuries? From? - Lots of possible factors.

                                                                                                              Alcohol Abuse - Personal choice.

                                                                                                              Motor Vehicle Accidents - Vehicles are getting safer every year. Driving tests should
                                                                                                              perhaps have some new rules added or be made harder.

                                                                                                              Unintentional Poisoning - Stupidity? FDA Regulations not being strict enough? I don't know, lots of variables again.

                                                                                                              Drug Abuse - Personal choice to some extent, more education needed? Perhaps.

                                                                                                              Unintentional Falls - This unintentional stuff again? could also probably include the drug abuse and alcohol abuse factors? Or perhaps health and safety concerns?

                                                                                                              Most of them (other than the 2 homicide figures) do not Involve any intent to cause harm to someone else though do they? Mostly accidents or Personal choices.

                                                                                                              Pretty shocking stats though, does put it into a bit more perspective.

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                                                                                                                • onwebcam
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                                                                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                  • 27689
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by xholly
                                                                                                                  Seriously you guys gotta drop this type of argument already, put forward a pro gun point if you like I dont care but just say something that makes a little sense and is not totally retarded.
                                                                                                                  What's retarded about it? Someone generally with a disease/illness decided to use a deadly weapon to kill or harm someone. The gun related incidents that get "politicized" are generally someone with a mental illness who decided to use a deadly weapon to harm or kill someone. There are no apples and oranges here.
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                                                                                                                    • onwebcam
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                                                                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                      • 27689
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                      Too bad they didn't put vaccine related deaths in there. People line up to kill themselves with those.
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                                                                                                                        • L-Pink
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                                                                                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                          • 39151
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by pornopete
                                                                                                                          1) That's a stupid argument.
                                                                                                                          2) Drinking and driving is already banned.
                                                                                                                          Murdering someone with a gun is also already banned/illegal isn't it?

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                                                                                                                            • onwebcam
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                                                                                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                              • 27689
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by pornopete
                                                                                                                              1) That's a stupid argument.
                                                                                                                              2) Drinking and driving is already banned.
                                                                                                                              So is shooting someone with a gun.. Neither one of the laws stops people from doing it everyday.
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                                                                                                                                • OneBallJohn
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                                                                                                                                  • May 2002
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by pornopete
                                                                                                                                  I guess people shouldn't be bothered when a bunch of kids get shot for no reason.
                                                                                                                                  Of course they should but that's no excuse for them to become ignorant cunts about it.

                                                                                                                                  Criminals do not respect gun laws or gun bans so putting more of either on the books is beyond stupid.

                                                                                                                                  Enforcing the current gun laws would be a better way to go.

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                                                                                                                                    • mikesouth
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                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 6334
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      If you think the war on drugs is working you will REALLY like the war on guns...

                                                                                                                                      why is it that the two cities with the toughest gun control have the highest gun crime rates? (chicago and DC)
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                                                                                                                                        • seeric
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                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 41917
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by AndyA
                                                                                                                                          unfortunately everyone has guns
                                                                                                                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS8lbfHUI3Q

                                                                                                                                          PS- my rant on assault rifles goes ONLY for non Webmaster Central users... if your a client of Webmaster Central and you LIKE assault rifles... I'm totally cool with it hehehe


                                                                                                                                          Thanks for clearing that up! I love my guns!.

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                                                                                                                                            • OneBallJohn
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                                                                                                                                              • May 2002
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by pornopete
                                                                                                                                              How do you figure comparing something to the rest of the world (where most people live btw) being ignorant?
                                                                                                                                              Your comment is not the ignorance I was referring to. Sorry that it came off that way.

                                                                                                                                              Unfortunately both sides of these discussions are full of ignorance.

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                                                                                                                                                • GrantMercury
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2012
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by AndyA
                                                                                                                                                  OK after watching that Piers Morgan clip it makes me sick that we have this debate over semi automatic weapons and the gun nuts come back with "well if the teachers were armed" bullshit
                                                                                                                                                  I say the President should grow some balls and say "we are going to look at the Constitution as it was ORIGINALLY intended BEFORE the second amendment"

                                                                                                                                                  THEN say you want to take away ALL guns even handguns except for law enforcement or military.....

                                                                                                                                                  you start with THAT argument and these fucks will be begging to only ban their precious semi automatic weapons
                                                                                                                                                  I hear you. There's obviously no way to rid ourselves of guns altogether. But those fucking machine guns can and should be fucking banned. And Obama HAS grown some balls about this issue. He's had enough - like the rest of the nation.

                                                                                                                                                  There is no legit reason to buy and own a machine gun. They are designed for one purpose; to kill en masse. Hunters don't need them. Homeowners don't need them. The only ones who want them, are FREAKS.

                                                                                                                                                  Fucking ban them.
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                                                                                                                                                    • bronco67
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                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2006
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by AndyA
                                                                                                                                                      yes we should ban cars smart ass.... and cancer.... and heart disease....

                                                                                                                                                      what an arguement.... that's what my kids say....
                                                                                                                                                      you're right. That really is the dumbest fucking argument.

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                                                                                                                                                        • sandman!
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                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 15431
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          fuck you and all your douchbag anti gun friends
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                                                                                                                                                            • Mr Pheer
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                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 22083
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by GFED
                                                                                                                                                              Aren't assault rifles FULLY AUTOMATIC
                                                                                                                                                              Yes, but that wouldnt be as sensational to report the news as "someone use a semi-automatic rifle today blah blah blah"

                                                                                                                                                              Or "a lone gunman with a semi-automatic pistol"

                                                                                                                                                              It's more sensational to say an "assault rifle" or an "automatic handgun", because the media knows that the majority of people that watch the news are blithering idiots and will believe just about anything that it put before them.

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                                                                                                                                                                • KillerK
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                                  Your chart needs to show INTENTIONAL Deaths.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • L-Pink
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                                                      • 39151
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by KillerK
                                                                                                                                                                      Your chart needs to show INTENTIONAL Deaths.
                                                                                                                                                                      Why, are you less dead? Are your families less devastated?


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                                                                                                                                                                        • Rochard
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 75733
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by onwebcam
                                                                                                                                                                          Over 11,000 people died from DUI related accidents. Around 8,500 from guns. Should we ban cars too?
                                                                                                                                                                          There is a huge difference between accidents and mass murder. If you cannot see the difference, perhaps you shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm. Or a driver's license.

                                                                                                                                                                          At the same time you can own a firearm at age 18 but cannot drink until you are 21. Go figure.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • L-Pink
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                                                              There is a huge difference between accidents and mass murder. If you cannot see the difference, perhaps you shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm. Or a driver's license.

                                                                                                                                                                              At the same time you can own a firearm at age 18 but cannot drink until you are 21. Go figure.
                                                                                                                                                                              But I'm just as dead either way. Why are you so concerned with why and not the end result? Ban liquor or make people get licensed, pass background checks to purchase liquor. Think of all the lives saved.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • potter
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by AndyA
                                                                                                                                                                                  every gun owner I know has the same shithead fantasy that in the middle of the night, they will hear a rustling at the window or door... and they will tip toe and get their gun and save the day by shooting the intruder... that shit never happens
                                                                                                                                                                                  That shit happens all the time actually.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • grumpy
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      its all about attitude, just look at their Canadian neighbors.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Tom_PM
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          There is no reason for a civilian to own a clip that holds 30 rounds of ammunition. None. because he wants to? Fuck that. Just wipe your nose and get used to the new reality that you can't have 30 rounds in your clip, Diehard.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Bryan G
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                              Jesus Christ

                                                                                                                                                                                              This is even a stretch for you old man,
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Mr Pheer
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I wont be giving mine up because someone killed their mother and stole her guns and then shot some kids.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's tragic but has nothing to do with me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  You couldnt get to mine in the first place unless you're experienced at opening a locked vault. So I'll be keeping them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Dont care what anyone thinks about it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • GrantMercury
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                                                                                                                                                      There is no reason for a civilian to own a clip that holds 30 rounds of ammunition. None. because he wants to? Fuck that. Just wipe your nose and get used to the new reality that you can't have 30 rounds in your clip, Diehard.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Fucking beautifully put. "Just cuz I wanna" isn't good enough. Someone's right to have weapons of war "just cuz I wanna" doesn't supersede the rights of the rest to be safe.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      There is NO legit reason to buy and own those weapons. They are designed for one thing - to kill large numbers of people. Want to hunt? Have a rifle. Want protection? Have a handgun. NOT A MACHINE GUN. Don't like it? Tough shit. Explain to the parents of those dead kids why you need one.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Fucking ban assault rifles NOW. Show me an assault rifle owner - I'll show you a FREAK.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      REAL sportsmen have no use for them. REAL homeowners have no use for them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Paranoid, mentally unstable freaks are the only ones who want them. BAN THEM NOW.
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