Are you watching the NRA press conference?

This is what we did when we found out that owning a gun did not stop us from being burgled 5 times and my mom from being mugged .. We left South Africa ..

The security measures in peoples homes in parts of SA are just beyond belief and even they dont stop crime and killings.

The USA will end up the same in the end, because most South Africans thought that guns would stop somebody from entering your house and either stealing your stuff or killing you. Guess what it doesent.

Our solution was to leave the country like so many South Africans have done now, Now we dont have bars on our windows, a 6 foot iron fence with spikes on the top nor security gates or a gun in the house. and you know what it was the best thing we ever did.

The problem is even with a "so called" assault rifle ban it's still easy as hell to get them "legally". In the past before the ban expired, you could still buy what they called "pre-ban" guns & or pieces of those guns.

Example you could buy a lower receiver that was made b4 the ban went into place and build a new gun around it that was considered pre-ban. Added to this the law was a joke anyway.

You could still buy an AK47 or M-16, ect..ect.. but it was limited on certain aspects. Things like barrel length or you could have this mod done but not combined with this one.. ect..ect. Just about the same guns were bought legally under the "Assault rifle ban" as with out the ban.

This is one of the reasons I don't think banning the guns or trying to restrict certain types will work. There are so many out there already, that there will be too many loop holes in any new law that will still allow people to have them.

We need to look more at licensing, education & sentencing.

The problem with that is it still wont stop the sensational mass shootings like this as the average killers in these cases can probably get a gun legally any way. However these mass shootings as bad as they are tend to be rare, so we should in reality be focusing more on the thousands of other deaths that happen by firearms.

Get the guns on of the crime ridden areas by licensing & strict mandatory jail time if you get caught with a unlicensed gun or are a criminal caught with a gun. There was a very interesting article I read the other day about the Mayor of Baltimore and how he focused not on drugs but gun crimes and he cut the city's murder rate in half in like a year or two.

thats the thing dude.
are Americans really willing to pay the price for their AR?
(and the price is innocent people and children murdered by some loner guy who happened to be able to arm himself to the teeth with readily available AR's and ammo)

just so folks like you can say they are armed for the day when the poor or desolate people will up rise and so you can defend themselves.
i am pretty sure you can defend yourself with a handgun.

If you want to actually save lives the quickest and easiest step would be ending cell phone and texting while driving. These multi tasking idiots cause far more deaths than loaner kids shooting up schools.

How is that statement wrong? How about "the only thing that stops a bad buy with a gun is laws that prevent bad guys from getting guns".

It's just common sense at this point - You can either prevent bad people from getting guns, or you can shoot them with a gun after they've already killed a few people...

The other day they broke their silence and said they would have something meaningful to contribute. So nothing?

haha you americans and your guns.

land of the free!!!!

i have read your other posts and i agree with every one of them.

the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun

this is a really really poorly thought out plan.

1. the bad guy can still first shoot the good guy (columbine hs scenario)
2. the good guy can inadvertently misinterpret who is the bad guy and shoot innocent people.
3. the good guy can have a bad day (say his wife left him and got child custody, he might no longer be the good guy).

You can not prevent bad people from getting guns any more than you can prevent someone from buying crack.

isnt that illegal already? It is here, $150 fine or so and loss of demerit points on your driving license. Its a fair law I think, very dangerous thing to do.

And what makes a bad guy? The fact that he's BREAKING LAWS ? What makes you think he will obey gun laws? A sense of community responsibility? Seriously criminals are criminals because they don't obey existing laws.

so by that logic crack should be legal?

Good idea, so when they lose the plot they'll be able to kill even MORE people!

wow ?..

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that is actually what "we" think sometimes too