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If it wasn't for his legislation we wouldn't have the internet we have now. It wasn't until AFTER his legislation pass that the internet got really huge. FACT. If you want to get technical the internet was around in 1967. Anyone REALLY want to count that? Does anyone really count 1967 as the year the internet started or do most people put the date at 1994 or so even though it's 27 years off?
People that bash him for that statement have nothing better to do in life except watch their collection of beastiality porn.Comment
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Thanks for the info L.A. Times. I guess it's time to close down shop, lol...Comment
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I wasn't specifically referring to you. I was referring to those that bash him for saying it.
but you wouldn't count that as the SAME internet everyone now thinks of do you?I was using the internet in '72 when it was ARPANET.. though it was limited.. it did the job for certain military tasks.. and a few other things..Comment
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You hold the door open and I'll show them the way to MacDonalds job line.
Some fools still think traffic = profit. Tube sites prove otherwise. The more people they have the more money they lose. After surfers have seen the few dating and cam sites there what's the point of spending big bucks to advertise to a guy looking to jerk off for 20 minutes? Yes some will buy from a dating/cam site, but will it be enough to support the millions who want to jerk off for 20 minutes? Unless gambling and other main stream sites come in with very big promo budgets Tube sites will always struggle to survive.
However Tube sites are here to stay and what they prove is how wrong we were. The surfers do not want to download the whole site, they don't want 30 days, they don't want exclusive, they don't want HD, they don't want to spend $30 for 20 minutes, in fact they don't want a lot of what we've been telling ourselves they did want.
They want 20 minutes to jerk off to decent porn, delivered at a good speed with no problems. The survivors of 2008 will be the ones who work out how to monetize supplying their need. What is going to change is the bloated industry spend $30 to get a join. Or what ever people do spend.Comment
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When they put everyone out of business where will they get content?
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The main stream porn industry could stop shooting tomorrow and do nothing for ten years, then it might run short of a few scenes. They might have to encode a few scenes themselves but that's nothing difficult.
Tubes will put some sites out of business, the ones who were ripping off surfers to pay affiliate exorbitant amounts, but many will survive. Will some surfers spend $1 to buy 3 videos of their choice from a good server, nice quality and easy service? Assuming the porn is good. Will they come back week after week. I believe enough will, Tubes have a limitation and the more surfers they get not buying from ads the worse they get.
Will surfers still want to spend $30 when all they want is a few scenes?
Some will still buy $30 memberships, but it will not be the numbers required today. Or should I say yesterday.Comment
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Have you checked out Youporn lately??
They are looking really good, super fast, high quality long really long videos, clean interface, fast well categorized searches, etc......
they are doing a better job giving quality content away for free than alot of paysites are
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If they are then this might be the way forward. Is it cheaper to give out large amounts of free porn, more than the "industry" advised and make the money on the sold porn?
Then it would be the industry wrong again.
"Don't give out enough to get him off or he will not buy a membership."
And.
"If you give it away on a tube site he won't buy a membership."
So many of the experts are wondering how this could of happened.
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Somebody should tell that guy nobody reads the newspaper anymore.Comment
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Not at all... Even as it grew and hospitals, universities, military and others began using it, there were still limits..
Lots could be done, but it being a telnet type of command process, people had to know what they were doing..
The basic structure of today's internet was pretty much already in place.. they just implemented the graphic use interface.. then it got wild & crazy from there..Comment
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It is impossible to make money in porn. Best to bail out now. It's only going to get worse. Really. We make less and less every day, because of all the free porn. If you are small, you will be wiped out by the tsunami of free internet porn that is engulfing us. It's in USA Today. Look it up, and then run, run, run for your lives!"Gonna scare you up and shoot you
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lol @ la times.
Why does this clown think he has a clue.I died.Comment
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Dec was a pretty strong month and yesterday was good. Dont have to revise the resume yet.Comment
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Yeah but how much is that killing? is that 30 - 40 pct. of what could they make if there was no free sharing alternative?
I have to say I personally don't know anyone who would buy from them (it's more of a US thing I guess and totally marketed). Although I understand it's easier to find something for a couple of cents than having to spend more time searching for the free download without a guarantee. Lazyness is what I believe is the main point behind using stuff like Itunes.
Also, it's a totally different product - it's something different to find your favourite record to listen in a car than to need to jerk off, meaning if you were a fan of Slayer you won't enjoy a Bee Gees record.
If you have a hard on it's very much an impulsive thing, you don't need exactly what you looking for, you need something fast and noone will blame you for jerking off to a lower resolution porn, cause it's not something you would want to showcase in public.
There is no faster and easier alternative to get off than to get down to one of the illegal tube sites at the moment.
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Actually, though many might find it hard to believe, I think integrity and right and wrong actually drives many to purchase from iTunes. Think parents that have bought their kids ipods, and know the controversy behind music downloading, and want to teach their kids right and wrong. I know of people that don't mind spending a little bit of money to take the moral high ground... and even more so when setting examples for kids or giving gifts.
have you checked out youporn recently, the resolution is pretty darn good, really good quality..... just wait til they start to dominate the google results when things get viral with the linking.... they haven't even started to hit their potential traffic I don't think, so far it is pretty much word of mouth type-ins and they are huge, they are going to become ridiculously huge in the near future ... my two cents... you need something fast and noone will blame you for jerking off to a lower resolution porn, ....
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I agree.
have you checked out youporn recently, the resolution is pretty darn good, really good quality..... just wait til they start to dominate the google results when things get viral with the linking.... they haven't even started to hit their potential traffic I don't think, so far it is pretty much word of mouth type-ins and they are huge, they are going to become ridiculously huge in the near future ... my two centsNo doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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So the internet is 25 years old and all of a sudden it's not profitable anymore? That was a short cycle..email: [email protected]Comment
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Quality (at least live) porn will always have its costumers.Comment
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I think I heard this about 8 years ago in reference to TGPs.
What I want to know if paid internet porn is dying then how in the fuck are REAL porno stores still thriving? I have 3 within 25 miles from me and I live in the boonies in the bible belt. And they sell DVDs for $10, $15, $20 or even higher for ONE fricken DVD.
This douche that wrote this crap works for an actual dying medium so the irony of his views is well ironic.Comment
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I've been to these tube sites and frankly I don't see whats's so special about them. They really kind of suck. I certainly don't use them for jerk material.Yeah but how much is that killing? is that 30 - 40 pct. of what could they make if there was no free sharing alternative?
I have to say I personally don't know anyone who would buy from them (it's more of a US thing I guess and totally marketed). Although I understand it's easier to find something for a couple of cents than having to spend more time searching for the free download without a guarantee. Lazyness is what I believe is the main point behind using stuff like Itunes.
Also, it's a totally different product - it's something different to find your favourite record to listen in a car than to need to jerk off, meaning if you were a fan of Slayer you won't enjoy a Bee Gees record.
If you have a hard on it's very much an impulsive thing, you don't need exactly what you looking for, you need something fast and noone will blame you for jerking off to a lower resolution porn, cause it's not something you would want to showcase in public.
There is no faster and easier alternative to get off than to get down to one of the illegal tube sites at the moment.
For me personally I am picky about my porn. If I'm looking for something I particular I'll spend probably 10X the amount of time looking for what I want than I actually spend jerking off to it.Comment
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I mean alexa have a larger pool of users to guage data from, compete have 2million, alexa has 10 million people, so why do you believe compete to be more accurate?
Check some of your own sites on compete the numbers are WAY off.☻Comment
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What I don't understand is why people haven't started targeting the users who morally believe that piracy and theft is wrong... and push memberships on them... Or does everyone just assume that all porn watchers are no good thieving bums?Comment
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This is a myth I am facing over and over, just take a look at the HUGE traffic that comes to these sites.
Can you assume they all are :
- underage
- thirld world countries without access to porn
- don't jerk off and only look for teasers
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Magazines and phone sex also still survive, but have you ever used it? I mean I would dare to say we are facing a certain number of a bit of old school porn users here..
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The other thing is price, I will explain why:
If a record would cost me like 8 - 12 bucks as in the States (and I guess I-tunes is even way cheaper) I would probably buy it rather then to download it . I will rather get an original cheaply then to hassle with downloading that is say free but takes a long time and is not 100 pct. reliable.
If a record costs around 35 bucks around here - and the average salaries are 4-5 times lower than in the states - who will be buying it?
Only kids, rich idiots and recreational listeners.
A music sick person like me that has probably around 1800 records would have to spend more than 60 000 bucks on music to get copyrights to all what I have, and cca 85 pct. of that would anyway go to the wrong local pockets.
I am going to the concerts, I am buying music DVD's, but I won't feed the assholes that push the prices so incredibly high.
A typical example of the right move in this case is what they did recently around here, a price for a DVD movie was for the most of the time say from 15 to 35 bucks (with 4/5 time lower average incomes) - the piracy was getting off the hook and NOONE was buying movies.
Then a company bought DVD rights for a popular - safe bet mainstream movie titles and they are releasing that with the support of the most popular newspapers for around 3 bucks a piece - the sales numbers? 250 000 +
on a market with 10 mil. inhabitants in total..
I never checked that, I will though.have you checked out youporn recently, the resolution is pretty darn good, really good quality..... just wait til they start to dominate the google results when things get viral with the linking.... they haven't even started to hit their potential traffic I don't think, so far it is pretty much word of mouth type-ins and they are huge, they are going to become ridiculously huge in the near future ... my two centsNeed hosting, cloud, CDN or solutions for your AI? Go faster while saving with The Last Host you'll ever need!| Double Impact PR | Telegram carl_boro | Read My Educational Series | Read my Adult Biz Chronicles|Comment
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Who the hell is Jonah Goldberg and what does he know about Internet porn? He probably has a dozen pay site subscriptions. He didn't even write an article, a blurb at best.
If the LA Times or another major newspaper writes an in-depth article on this topic then we could have a decent conversation. Considering Goldberg wrote two paragraphs and a sentence I think I'm going to rest my brain now.
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