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  • godzil
    Registered User
    • Feb 2004
    • 18

    #76
    Well taking down 10 grands a month, traffic rising even if the work stopped since google ranks grow up is better then make a fair deal, supposing that I would drop the domains for 30ks.

    I have nothing to say about Rob, bad or good, he is kind of new there, although he made me the offer to open a new account where I could use their domain ( or whoever that domain was ), if I give up to the old account and domains ( this part was supposedly requested by the legal one man team ). ( I wonder how stupid does he think I am )

    Anyway, my stance towards them is getting harsher as we speak, I have already lost time searching for affiliate websites that match the niches for their websites and talking to owners and after I finish changing the websites and stuff it will take a very good offer to change the ways given the fact that my employees don't work anymore as much as they should, and I loose time in this month when it is my birthday, xmas and all the other hollydays.

    Beside one website that I could find only an approximate match, the others that matter are all covered and looking fine. If they can throw away xxx.xxx dollars in a year, I am talking about my revenue next year, no problem for me, I will get it from other sides, and on their niches. Wonder how productive it is for them loosing a good affiliate and also getting competition on their terms.

    And btw, they are the first ones who would try to fuck me in the last 10 years, the only other person who tried that was a south african regarding a webdeveloping job, I did the job and he dissapeared.

    So I should celebrate that :D

    Bottom line, I would rather loose all the websites then bending down with a gun pointed at me.

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    • SilentKnight
      Megan Fox's fluffer
      • Oct 2005
      • 24818

      #77
      Originally posted by VenusBlogger
      The hard working affiliate has always been the #1 reason sponsors become successful.
      Really?

      Makes me wonder how we ever managed to pull in a six-figure revenue back in 2003 without an affiliate program.

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      • Failed
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2011
        • 2301

        #78
        Originally posted by Roald
        I don't recall having any issues ever with Kink. They pay on time and still convert decent for us. Need a screenshot?
        We pay freeones on time, every time!
        (ICQ - 664784872)

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        • godzil
          Registered User
          • Feb 2004
          • 18

          #79
          Originally posted by SilentKnight
          Really?

          Makes me wonder how we ever managed to pull in a six-figure revenue back in 2003 without an affiliate program.
          Now imagine a few affiliates like me who don't ask for hosting, tools, who don't bug you on chat, and make you legally 7 figures a year while you do your job undisturbed and make another 6 figures

          I think an affiliate program and an affiliate complete each other. With a little bit of respect from both sides, things should work fine. I don't need statues, I don't need to be asked how are you, everything is working fine?.

          But when it's about money, respect is a too small world. I remember three pictures from a gag site, the first people were protesting against wars, 5 10 gathered with banners stop wars... Another picture was with people protesting against environment destructions, around 40 50 people with banners. And the last one, people were protesting about money related issues, plaza filled.

          And btw, I consider myself a small affiliate. I haven't reinvented the wheel, I just work hard, and that's it. I am sure there are a lot of people earning more with less work then me.

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          • VenusBlogger
            So Fucking Banned
            • Nov 2011
            • 1540

            #80
            Originally posted by SilentKnight
            Really?

            Makes me wonder how we ever managed to pull in a six-figure revenue back in 2003 without an affiliate program.
            And you want to prove what?

            You extrapolate one phrase in my post to tell me that in year 2003, without affiliates your ISOLATED Case could hit 6 figures?

            Amazing... So what?... Now what?...

            Doesn't change anything at all in what I was saying and I confirm it...

            BTW, since you read my whole message but only DECIDE to quote what you want at your DISCRETION.. what do you say about the rest?

            About the bullshit sponsors bullshitting affiliates with so much BULLSHIT in the last years...? Let's hear your opinion, Silent Knight...
            Last edited by VenusBlogger; 12-13-2012, 02:57 PM.

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            • VenusBlogger
              So Fucking Banned
              • Nov 2011
              • 1540

              #81
              Originally posted by godzil
              Now imagine a few affiliates like me who don't ask for hosting, tools, who don't bug you on chat, and make you legally 7 figures a year while you do your job undisturbed and make another 6 figures

              I think an affiliate program and an affiliate complete each other. With a little bit of respect from both sides, things should work fine. I don't need statues, I don't need to be asked how are you, everything is working fine?.
              Yeah man, however some sponsors after so many years have build a SO STRONG BRAND, that they don't consider affiliates #1 priority nowadays...

              They become BIG and HUGE thanks to affiliates, but after so many years of brand building they dont even care, they get lots of signups just from bookmarkers...

              Imagine that every site there has 10,000 recurring members at least... 10 sites have 100,000 recurring members and lots of them come back directly to the site, over and over again, cancel and rejoin directly, or via a newsletter, or things like that.

              In long term, the affiliate gets a very small piece of the pie, of the referred members he sent in year 2005 and that made the affiliate 200 bucks, and to the sponsor 2000 bucks... Its a win-win situation always for the sponsor.

              BTW, what happened to the other guys? Tomitza, Eagle (dan), and others?

              I remember all of you from the Vanished VB and ThinkReel.
              Last edited by VenusBlogger; 12-13-2012, 03:05 PM.

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              • omgt
                So Fucking Blind
                • May 2005
                • 749

                #82
                if it was 1 year ago, they are not going to do anything now (probably)
                but you should still deal with it seriously.
                but if they have done nothing in the year since they first contacted you this can be used as evidence that they have basically condoned what (whatever) you are doing/done
                If its about domains infringing trademarks - i couldnt specifically see exactly what their "allegation" is - then treat it seriously, but dont accept anything they say,
                I have had a few run-ins with lawyers alleging trademark infringement - all of them were wrong in law and the "claims" were completely baseless, as well as a pack of lies and the legislation as well as the caselaw stated they were wrong (they knew this as well - otherwise they must have been the dumbest lawyers on earth)
                none of the cases ever went anywhere - because they couldnt - its just threats from pathetic (PATHETIC) bullies.
                ps. the lawyers are on here, not that it bothers me.

                if you think they are harassing you - tell them in writting, and if you think their claim is baseless tell them,

                psps
                check up their terms + conditions/contract because some "affiliate companies" terms + conditions i have seen would not stand up in a court of law,
                but you need to check them for your own benefit anyway.






                Originally posted by shake
                They hit me up almost exactly a year ago, they thought I was infringing on 3 of their T&C, although the only one I actually was trademarks for some domains. In the end they listened to me and my account was restored. That's my history with them on the issue.

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                • omgt
                  So Fucking Blind
                  • May 2005
                  • 749

                  #83
                  i apologise, i thought shake was the op.

                  but the message was still the same :-
                  tell them to fuck off in a polite and diplomatic way bearing in mind you might want to use that as evidence at a later date.

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                  • Struggle4Bucks
                    Sieg Hi!
                    • May 2011
                    • 3615

                    #84
                    When i google my product: StrugglingBabes... then i find links to Kink promo movies on tubes
                    with the title: StrugglingBabes. Should i sue them for ass-fucking my brand? I need legal advice
                    Last edited by Struggle4Bucks; 12-13-2012, 04:33 PM.
                    Half troll half amazing!

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                    • omgt
                      So Fucking Blind
                      • May 2005
                      • 749

                      #85
                      have you trademarked your name (etc etc)
                      are you the only company/person or the first person/company to use this ? how long have you had this name, have you registered it anywhere ?
                      do some research. and try to get advice, before you approach someone who may have infringed.
                      do some research before you go to a lawyer as well. it will save a lot of money if you summarise the case and you should see if you have a case in law, pointless paying for advice if you have nothing in law to rely on.


                      Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                      When i google my product: StrugglingBabes... then i find links to Kink promo movies on tubes
                      with the title: StrugglingBabes. Should i sue them for ass-fucking my brand? I need legal advice

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                      • travs
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 1631

                        #86
                        hello? echo...

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                        • lucas131
                          ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 11475

                          #87
                          talking about money in this thread right?

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                          • Sexvilly
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 448

                            #88
                            I took their offer (although it was 4x months not 2x as I had a pending monthly payment before they blocked my account and one extra month that it took to negotiate the deal).

                            I thought it was a good deal since the last time one of my accounts was blocked by NastyDollars I received no offer whatsoever. NastyDollars wanted the domains and only then would reactivate my account.

                            Also, no chance I would make the money offered if I redirected the traffic from KinkyDollars domains to the other sponsor.

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                            • NALEM
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3163

                              #89
                              Originally posted by godzil
                              Now imagine a few affiliates like me ...
                              Godzil, email me at [email protected]
                              "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                              • godzil
                                Registered User
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 18

                                #90
                                Originally posted by VenusBlogger
                                BTW, what happened to the other guys? Tomitza, Eagle (dan), and others?
                                Married or almost married, in the same city, looking sexier then ever, still in online bussiness, online shops,
                                ( one has a huge local sexshop, he is my favourite provider, imagine myself in a big deposit surrounded of... tools :D )
                                but as I was till this Kink issue, away from forums.

                                Originally posted by omgt
                                if it was 1 year ago, they are not going to do anything now (probably)
                                but you should still deal with it seriously.
                                but if they have done nothing in the year since they first contacted you this can be used as evidence that they have basically condoned what (whatever) you are doing/done
                                ...............
                                The thing is happening as we speak, I would not have brought an one year issue around so late I told them all
                                the arguments, they don't really care I guess. And moreover, they know it better, since I was showing my domains
                                to support when I was building new sites, last time a couple of months ago when I told their gay support man about
                                the last site done and showed it, cause he told me to try that website too.

                                About loosing my domains, I don't really care about that, probably I might loose 2,3, 4 of the unimportant ones,
                                I doubt it worths to them to pay the fees for an administrative takeover which 1, is not 100% to be successfull,
                                2, the domains won are almost worthless ( beside they are small, if I loose them I will take care to remove all
                                advertising made for them ).

                                About the lies and claims, I feel you, same here. They told me about domain copyrights regarding names for names
                                that they haven't even registered them, someone on another board was so kind to give an example.

                                I am not affraid of a court of law, I am angry because of the way they dealt with me.

                                Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                When i google my product: StrugglingBabes... then i find links to Kink promo movies on tubes
                                with the title: StrugglingBabes. Should i sue them for ass-fucking my brand? I need legal advice
                                Yes, you should probably do that :D

                                Originally posted by Sexvilly
                                I took their offer (although it was 4x months not 2x as I had a pending monthly payment before they blocked my account and one extra month that it took to negotiate the deal).

                                I thought it was a good deal since the last time one of my accounts was blocked by NastyDollars I received no offer whatsoever. NastyDollars wanted the domains and only then would reactivate my account.

                                Also, no chance I would make the money offered if I redirected the traffic from KinkyDollars domains to the other sponsor.
                                I will not make the money instantly, but I will on the medium term. Their offer was laughable, I was ready to negotiate.
                                Nothing is irreplaceable in this world, in terms of people or things or affiliate programs or anything. You would be
                                amazed of what similar sites can be found at other affiliate programs after a few days of searching ( some one in their
                                support already told me about some months ago ).

                                Originally posted by NALEM
                                Godzil, email me at [email protected]
                                Yes boss, doing it asap.

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