11 more months of Ron Paul threads? Or down to the last few?
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i hope there is more talk about him - not just at gfy but in the media too...
since a large % of the population only know clinton/ obama/ giulliani
i like most ron pauls policies but i think up until recent days he hasnt been getting enough press to make any relevant impact#RememberYourRoots #AaronMForGFYHOF
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he said he wouldnt. If he does he will lose ALL his credibility. so NOComment
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Yes, but what has Paul's campaign done to get more media coverage? He has an awesome grass roots campaign run but as far as a traditional campaign there's not much going on. Paul might have been able to make more of his campaign but he didn't and time is about up.
His interviews where he says the "mainstream media" is "scared" of him might be endearing to his hardcore supporters but they are gaining him no ground with middle America. It just comes off as "sour grapes". A loser explaining why he is losing. Contrast that with Hillary who always sounds like she knows she is going to win (whether true or not).
Look at Huckabee. He has risen from as low in the polls as Paul to being a viable candidate. Not saying he will win. Just that Huckabee rose because of Huckabee and his campaign strategy (attack other candidates!).
Paul has stayed a long shot candidate because of Paul. what's Paul's STRATEGY to get more media coverage? Raise money on the internet and continue to fuel the fire of media conspiracies against him with his small but loyal group of supporters? Not working. Not enough anyway.
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I think there'll be 11 more months.Comment
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i dont watch the news on television very often so i could be totally wrong here but i dont understand why everyone is saying ron paul doesnt get much media attention when most of the videos ive seen of him on youtube are recorded from when he was on TV media, including fox news........Comment
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he never said that. he said, 99.9% that he wouldnt. There is a reason for that. Unfortunatly I think the media has done its job for the war mongering rich who chose to freeze him out of it. You guys that are happy about it are fools. The same thing happens to Kunichic and you think its funny or good for the country. you will be the same people bitching when they come in your house take your computers and income. Fucking Sheep.No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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You are right, you dont watch enough. He absolutly never gets mentioned on, ever, on any channel. The select times they do mention him, which is extremely rare they make fun of him. Im sure all the religous bush war mongering crowd is quite happy with what they have accomplished in this election to this point. The only two that get pounded into the voters head on all news outlets is Romney Huckabee all the time. I hope one of them get elected and you poor sig whores cant afford to move out of this country will be stuck in a police state where you have to live by the religious right rule. INo doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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He'll run as an independent. He'll say he didn't intend to, but that the dedication of his supporters convinced him to do so.Comment
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Huckabee had a built in traditional base that needed a candidate. He went after the Christian right as they were easy. Paul's constituency is all over the place and requires more than traditional polling measures to identify the strength. We will see after Iowa and New Hampshire whether he has enough support to continue his run. One thing to keep in mind is that most of his campaign money has come within the last month so he is behind the other candidates pr wise in these states.AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com-------------------------------Comment
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I think he should take the hint
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He seems to have the cash set aside and enough fundraisers lined up to not seem to give a shit about Iowa etc right now.Comment
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If he's such an unimportant longshot, why do threads like this even get made? I don't think he has a chance either, but I'm glad he's shared a message and at least has people thinking.- Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com
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Since I started the thread ...
Ron Paul is not very interesting to me. Typical libertarian who believes in the Austrian school of economics. That is neither good nor bad to me overall.
Ron Paul's supporters fascinate me though. Their sense of the importance of Ron Paul and his campaign is, it seems, all out of proportion to the reality.
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I love you, so I will keep my comments to myself.
That is the problem. His supporters are all hanging out on MySpace and YouTube and playing WOW or whatever video game that is popular these days. They will never get out and vote.
His supporters think the Internet is all it takes.
I know I have said this many times, but let me remind you. You are a fucking idiot.
Didn't it have the exact opposite effect?Comment
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I don't know what a TRUE Republican is or whether it matters but he could grab 3-7% of REGISTERED Republican votes or so. That seems clear from the current polls which mostly poll those who voted republican last election.
I don't think anyone has any idea of what he could grab from the Democratic candidate or whether it would be more or less than that. There are no polls that would give us any idea of that yet.
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It's just common sense colin, he appeals more to the kind of people who would generally vote democrat.. Do you think all the internet kiddies were planning to vote republican after 8 years of this?Comment
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It seems to me most of the anti-pauls out there are just beating their drum, they'll disagree just to disagree, they don't need to have a reason. It's just the way they were brought up, the way they think, and they'll continue to think that way.
When Bush took power I'll admit it, I thought it was great. Down with Saddam, Armies are there to be used, and obviously these people are smarter than I am, have more information, and are doing what they think is right for the country - common sense, right?
Man was I wrong. I let my opinions change based on what happened, and I'm not afraid to say I was wrong.
It seems some people after 8 years of this nonsense are still too proud to admit they were wrong, and believe just as they did 8 years ago.
I think most of these people don't care about other people, and have a much inflated view of themselves in this world. There are more than 6 billion people on this planet, but somehow the world revolves around their cruddy keyboard in North Dakota or something.Comment
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I think he appeals to old school Republican values too. Isn't there a debate video going around that shows Bush in 2000 saying a lot of the exact same things Ron Paul stands for?- Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com
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Scariest thing for me was seeing the "defense" budget of the USA, at around $600bln dollars.. Closely trailed by the UK at... ~$35bln.
USA has 2 oceans, Canada (can throw snowballs) and Mexico (can throw tacos) bordering their country.
Most other countries with bitter enemies going back hundreds of years that they SHARE a border with, and even they don't see a need for this kind of... "defense".
Because we all know Portland was almost taken by the rebels last year!
As someone who lives as part of the "rest of the world" it's very fucking scary. I just wish you guys would care a little bit more about protecting the rest of us while you're at it. :/Comment
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Politics is funny sometimes.
NBC Poll. Dec 14-17.
"If the next election for president were held today, and Rudy Giuliani were the Republican candidate, Hillary Clinton were the Democratic candidate, and Ron Paul were an independent candidate, for whom would you vote?"
Clinton. 45%
Giuliani 36%
Paul 9%
Depends/Neither. 5%
Unsure. 5%
Same poll.
"If the next election for president were held today, and Giuliani were the Republican candidate and Clinton were the Democratic candidate, for whom would you vote?"
Clinton. 46%
Giuliani 43%
Neither. 5%
Unsure. 4%
Depends. 2%
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You are so fucking wrong. He is a true conservative that believes premptive attacks are a bad policy. Exactly what the republicans truly stand for until they were taken over by neo cons. Check your history. Paul worked very closely with Reagan.No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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No he doesn't. He's trying to get the GOP nomination. If he says he'll run anways as an independant they his chances of getting the GOP nomination will be none and he knows it. now we all know he doesn't have a chance anyways but he must think he does because he's running. No one will vote for a guy that's going to run as an independant anyways.
He has the money to make an indpendant run and if he does no one will care that he said he wouldn't. Didn't seem to hurt Leiberman in his Senate run. His supporters will DEMAND he run. And if he cares so much about this country then he will heed the call.
Is the Libertarian party was smart they'd nominate him anyways. If he's getting 5-8% of the republican support I'm sure he's getting at least that from Independants and even some democrats. He can have the 15% minimum support needed to be part of the debates.
he won't win but maybe it will bring much needed attention to a 3rd party and perhaps some of the disgusted republicans more moderate democrats will flock to the libertarian party.Comment
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Bersides his supportersa re the ones doing all the work anyways. It's they who are getting all this money raised. It wouldn't shock me if they went ahead and put him on the ballots in all the states no matter what he says. Right now I'm pretty sure their attitude is "Ron you're running for fucking president whether you want to or not because we said so."Comment
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Will Ron Paul run as an independent after he loses in the Republican primaries?
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Nah, he knows that's a dead end.Comment
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Reagan didn't use pre-emption by the way. He defeated the Soviets without firing a shot.
Paul was right. Everyone was sick of Korea which Truman got us into and they voted for Ike. Everyone was sick of Viet Nam which Kennedy and LBJ got us into and the voted for Nixon. I mean NIXON of all people. You've got to be pretty pissed off and desperate to have voted for NIXON for President as your solution.Comment
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Could it have been that Reagan created a deficit so large it was larger than the deficits all the other Presdients from Washington to Carter created COMBINED?Comment
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Our oceans didn't stop 9/11.
The Chinese... guess which country is funding the Chinese military by buying billions of dollars worth of their low quality merchandise? Guess which country's technology was stolen and is now part of Chinese ICBMs?
The Russians... do you know how many nukes they still have? Are they all accounted for? Does that ever bother you?
Do you know spying by the Chinese and Russians is at cold war levels?
OK, you can go back to sleep now. Have a Molson's and roll over.
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Your country is making the Chinese and Russians look... friendly.
Ever think of that? Now the USA is grouped with the same countries you list as scary.
And I know how many nukes you have.. 30,000+.Last edited by Socks; 12-31-2007, 12:31 PM.Comment
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blah blah blah....and you guys say its the paultards that are conspiracy theorists.Our oceans didn't stop 9/11.
The Chinese... guess which country is funding the Chinese military by buying billions of dollars worth of their low quality merchandise? Guess which country's technology was stolen and is now part of Chinese ICBMs?
The Russians... do you know how many nukes they still have? Are they all accounted for? Does that ever bother you?
Do you know spying by the Chinese and Russians is at cold war levels?
OK, you can go back to sleep now. Have a Molson's and roll over.
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