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  • Roald
    SecretFriends.com
    • May 2001
    • 27910

    #61
    Originally posted by Failed
    ***Bro Alert***

    ATTENTION: All Kink bros, we have a situation on GFY. Please enter the thread, do not read any of the posts, and post what a great program we are, how we pay on time every time, and that you've made great money with us. This is not a test! I repeat, this is not a test! Thanks bros!

    ***Bro Alert***
    I don't recall having any issues ever with Kink. They pay on time and still convert decent for us. Need a screenshot?


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    • lucas131
      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      • Aug 2004
      • 11475

      #62
      Originally posted by Roald
      I don't recall having any issues ever with Kink. They pay on time and still convert decent for us. Need a screenshot?
      everybody wants to see all of your screenshots not needed here

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      • VenusBlogger
        So Fucking Banned
        • Nov 2011
        • 1540

        #63
        Originally posted by Roald
        I don't recall having any issues ever with Kink. They pay on time and still convert decent for us. Need a screenshot?
        I agree.

        Kinky Dollars is one of the best sponsors I have dealt with in the last 10 years... One of the best 5 sponsors in 500... Very good and serious people.

        To the OP, have you tried contacting Robert from Kink or any other of their good staff? They are very helpful people.

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        • moeloubani
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2007
          • 4235

          #64
          Originally posted by Nicky
          From what I have heard Kink is actually closing your affiliate account if you don't sell for the 2x months revenue. That is years of rebills that they practically take from you unless you comply... I believe this just happened to AdultDesigns account when he refused to sell for 2 months income on a revshare account.
          they are closing your account either way, i got the email as well and even though i remember asking my affiliate rep for permission to use my domains and then that rep asking legal and coming back and telling me that i could do it as long as i promoted only kink on those sites, i decided to say fuck it and not bother dealing with a petty company like that

          for all of those saying Kink is a great company I always thought the same, and although they are entitled to take or refuse traffic from any domain the thing about screwing the affiliate out of their years of rebills really seems to me like a desperate move to squeeze some more pennies out of the business before possibly selling it? after all this may make them more money in the short run but in the long run those rebills will drop away and the new sales those affiliates were getting to fill them will instead go to the torrents and free sites that dominate the search results for any kink site

          so i said fuck it, transferred the domains and decided to cut ties with a company that obviously has no idea what theyre doing with this move...not much of a hit to my bottom line and not a surprise from an industry that is constantly finding ways to screw the affiliates

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          • VenusBlogger
            So Fucking Banned
            • Nov 2011
            • 1540

            #65
            Originally posted by moeloubani
            they are closing your account either way, i got the email as well and even though i remember asking my affiliate rep for permission to use my domains and then that rep asking legal and coming back and telling me that i could do it as long as i promoted only kink on those sites, i decided to say fuck it and not bother dealing with a petty company like that
            they are even offering him money.. I mean.. well, better than that, can't see another sponsor..

            Try to find out what WEBCAMWIZ does if you even "DARE" to use one of their site names in a domain... And not talking about their WEBCAM sites, but their secondary sites that are not even part of promotion..

            Ask DAIANA from WEBCAMWIZ what she does...

            Yeah, that... And it sucks. Another reason to stay away from WEBCAMWIZ, the sponsor that 2intense promotes in his SIG.

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            • moeloubani
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2007
              • 4235

              #66
              Originally posted by VenusBlogger
              they are even offering him money.. I mean.. well, better than that, can't see another sponsor..

              Try to find out what WEBCAMWIZ does if you even "DARE" to use one of their site names in a domain... And not talking about their WEBCAM sites, but their secondary sites that are not even part of promotion..

              Ask DAIANA from WEBCAMWIZ what she does...

              Yeah, that... And it sucks. Another reason to stay away from WEBCAMWIZ, the sponsor that 2intense promotes in his SIG.
              like i said its up to them whether they allow that or not and thats fine with me if they would have let me keep the rebills i would have been happy, either way im not losing any sleep over this i just think they could have handled it better

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              • godzil
                Registered User
                • Feb 2004
                • 18

                #67
                Originally posted by VenusBlogger
                I agree.

                Kinky Dollars is one of the best sponsors I have dealt with in the last 10 years... One of the best 5 sponsors in 500... Very good and serious people.

                To the OP, have you tried contacting Robert from Kink or any other of their good staff? They are very helpful people.
                How can one affiliate program be serious when they cancel your account, they offer you 30k$ usd for your domains and they tell you that you can open a new account with them doing the same, minus that domains will be owned by them ( different by my old domains )?

                In what world is this not mischievious and ill intended? And why the hell should I open a new account, knowing that at any time I can be closed and my money and work taken after the rebills are big enough and larger then the average payment in a hell of a lot of countries around the world?

                In what world is not mischievious and ill intented to close an account and tell to open an account doing the same, when your support already saw the domains a long time ago and they were giving you advices what to improve and what to market next?

                In what world is not mischievious and ill intended when you gave active support to the man owning the account, yet you close the account because he broke the tos? Everything was well known by their support.

                In the world of retarded people, pardon me?

                A lawyer is already looking at this, if anyone is interested in joining forces, I am open for anything. The lawyer already has adult experience, he was recommended from 2 old people around the forums.

                I am still waitting for attorney to look more into this, and if nothing can be done, no problem I rank first spot first page on many keywords not related to their names, since I have never adverted their names, I a sure they will love seeing the traffic go other affiliate programs, I am already preparing things.

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                • RKLover
                  A B User
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 256

                  #68
                  Originally posted by godzil
                  How can one affiliate program be serious when they cancel your account, they offer you 30k$ usd for your domains and they tell you that you can open a new account with them doing the same, minus that domains will be owned by them ( different by my old domains )?

                  In what world is this not mischievious and ill intended? And why the hell should I open a new account, knowing that at any time I can be closed and my money and work taken after the rebills are big enough and larger then the average payment in a hell of a lot of countries around the world?

                  In what world is not mischievious and ill intented to close an account and tell to open an account doing the same, when your support already saw the domains a long time ago and they were giving you advices what to improve and what to market next?

                  In what world is not mischievious and ill intended when you gave active support to the man owning the account, yet you close the account because he broke the tos? Everything was well known by their support.

                  In the world of retarded people, pardon me?

                  A lawyer is already looking at this, if anyone is interested in joining forces, I am open for anything. The lawyer already has adult experience, he was recommended from 2 old people around the forums.

                  I am still waitting for attorney to look more into this, and if nothing can be done, no problem I rank first spot first page on many keywords not related to their names, since I have never adverted their names, I a sure they will love seeing the traffic go other affiliate programs, I am already preparing things.
                  I have to admit, seeing their offer and the scare tactics they employ to force you into an a very poor sale price will keep me from touching them with a ten foot pole going down the road.

                  Hope your chat logs and sent e-mails will be enough to tighten their lawyers sphincter up to the point where he can't pass a grain of rice.

                  Tripp
                  There is no excuse for ignorance, yet it still remains a powerful force.

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                  • godzil
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 18

                    #69
                    Thanks... Probably given the way I wanted to deal with them at the beginning ( I wanted to be flexible and I was ready for compromises ), they thought they can push it and I will swallow it

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                    • VenusBlogger
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1540

                      #70
                      Originally posted by godzil
                      How can one affiliate program be serious when they cancel your account, they offer you 30k$ usd for your domains and they tell you that you can open a new account with them doing the same, minus that domains will be owned by them ( different by my old domains )?
                      Hello man, you had the same problem as AdultDesigns ?

                      I know you from VB forum many years ago, so I know you are a honest guy.

                      Well, it would be good to have at least someone from KinkyDollars come here to explain what's going on.

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                      • godzil
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 18

                        #71
                        Howdy, yes, I am having the same problem as we speak. Glad that someone knows me, I have never been a board's guy too much, so only my friends and old people from other boards remember me
                        And thanks

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                        • teomaxxx
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2003
                          • 2737

                          #72
                          Originally posted by godzil
                          I am sure they will love me more when they will see first page ranking in google for a lot of terms going to other affiliate programs
                          For sure they love first page of google results full of tubes, torrents and filelockers instead of affiliate sites with less content promoting them exclusively. At least, it reflects their recent actions of taking over affiliate sites

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                          • teomaxxx
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2003
                            • 2737

                            #73
                            Originally posted by moeloubani
                            ......screwing the affiliate out of their years of rebills really seems to me like a desperate move to squeeze some more pennies out of the business before possibly selling it?

                            after all this may make them more money in the short run but in the long run those rebills will drop away and the new sales those affiliates were getting to fill them will instead go to the torrents and free sites that dominate the search results for any kink site
                            probably trying to make as much money as possible like it we were still in "pre-tube, pre-file lockers and pre-torrent" days. their content together with armory must cost some serious

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                            • godzil
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 18

                              #74
                              I doubt they want to sell. In my case they thought that I will give in and "donate" my domains together with everything on them for the amount they wanted to give me. Probably my soft stance at the beginning made them think I am an easy prey.
                              Probably I should have taken the stance of someone who wrote here that he told them if they don't like it he will change the content to other affiliates.
                              I will remember this next time

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                              • VenusBlogger
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 1540

                                #75
                                Originally posted by teomaxxx
                                For sure they love first page of google results full of tubes, torrents and filelockers instead of affiliate sites with less content promoting them exclusively. At least, it reflects their recent actions of taking over affiliate sites
                                Although I agree that in the last 2-3 years the sponsors have attacked AFFILIATES and TAKE HARD WORKING AFFILIATES likes enemies, like we have seen never before, I can't believe KinkyDollars does something like that...

                                I have experienced many shitty attitudes from sponsors in the last 2-3 years, taking affiliates as their ENEMIES and going against them, when in fact their ENEMY was somewhere else.

                                The hard working affiliate has always been the #1 reason sponsors become successful. So I really hate so much sponsors going against the affiliate.

                                Between 2001 and 2008 I hardly had any problems with any sponsors... From 2009 to 2012, had dozens of shitty experiences that made me either close my account with the shitty sponsor, STOP promoting them, they didn't pay or dissapear from the business to then come back with another name or converted into a "tube", or just stop the partnership with them.

                                Many asking me about shitty and bullshit requests, so many stupid requests all the time, to stop doing that and this, to start doing that and this...

                                Man, I even had a sponsor asking me to stop using nude pictures to promote their girls, because one of the girls saw one of my blogs and was offened... WTF? When in fact their OWN SPONSOR GALLERIES had the NUDE PICS that I grabbed from there to promote them!! And they even asked me "politely" to stop promoting them? Can you see the kind of BULSHIT we are into in the last few years?... Really sucks...

                                So, definitely something has changed for the WORSE in this business in the last few years.

                                But I still refuse to think that Kinky Dollars is part of that circle of bad sponsors, they have always been a very good sponsor.

                                It would be great to see Rob or any of the other guys from Kink.com come to the thread to clear things up.
                                Last edited by VenusBlogger; 12-13-2012, 01:32 PM.

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