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#51

07-13-2002, 09:30 PM

I just couldn't resist chiming in...

1. The world is about money, oil and power. Isn't that strange.
2. Get in the way of that and you are shit out of luck
3. Idealism looks great on paper, I doubt you would be eager to wait in line for gas...and the Arabs definately want to insure that we continue buying it and more.

Pop your head out your ass, this isn't some esoteric fucking college debate, it about money. The world is about money whether anyone likes it or not. Look at all the stupid ass tricks webmaster play on each other to earn that extra sign up.

Having been through one "conflict", rest assured that when you get a whole bunch of guys and equipment together, and all the equipment is designed to kill people, some of the wrong people are gonna get killed. Personally, if I was under constant surveillance I wouldn't start shooting guns in the air...I am sure that lit up some ones infrared monitor and brought the wrath of C-130 gunships on them. It's a war and I find it hard to believe that anyone could be so stupid.

Then again, these Afgans ain't Charlie. That is a fact, too.

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07-13-2002, 09:48 PM

If war were like quake, all of us but one would be dead. If war were like counterstrike.... there would be no cops left ~!

what if like was a giant deathmatch? who would win??

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#53

07-13-2002, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
what if like was a giant deathmatch? who would win??

Fucking campers
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07-13-2002, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by letshunt
Then again, these Afgans ain't Charlie. That is a fact, too.

And as everyone knows, charlie don't surf.

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#55

07-13-2002, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Gee, I've connected the dots, and now I see that there's a conspiracy to make sure the USA has oil. Wow, that is really sinister. Let's put a STOP to that!

Yaa at the expense of 5,000 american lives at the wtc
and 100,000's of afgan lives!!!

Fuck you really are clueless!!

Both numbers are incorrect.

If you or anyone else believes that we attacked our own country, you need a brain check.

It is a known fact that we and our allies have been interested in a pipeline thru Afganistan, for many years. The terrorists provided us with good cause, so now, at some future point in time there will be a pipeline.

Nothing strange about it.
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#56

07-13-2002, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by volante

I didn't realise a wedding was a hot zone...

Afganistan is a hot zone. War is, and always has been, an imperfect dirty affair, and people die.
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#57

07-13-2002, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by FATPad

Too many people think war is like Quake or Counterstrike or something.

True. War has to be experienced to even have a clue. Movies and games don't provide a real clue.
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#58

07-13-2002, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by TopTGP
There's that blind faith American's have in their government again...

Everything that guy said is true... Just read over it a few times and it will catch on eventually..

I am not going to read this post again, cause I know it will almost indefinitly mean a huge assed argument.

It will catch on with the ignoramus types (short on brain matter).
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#59

07-13-2002, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by Captain Canada
367 Americans lost their lives in the Gulf War - 165 by "friendly fire".

Of the almost 60,000 Americans who lost their lives in Vietnam - almost 40% were due to "friendly fire".

Wrong on all counts.
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#60

07-13-2002, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by SwordFish
I'll bet 99% of what is in that article is made up. Take this one for example:

"Haliburton gave Cheney $34,000,000,000 as a farewell gift when he left Haliburton. Isn't that strange?"

Dick Cheney got a $34 BILLION dollar bonus? Yeah right. Someone needs to call Forbes and let them know that their list is all fucked up and that actually Dick Cheney should be about #3 on their list.

The dumbass that wrote that article made up a bunch of stuff to support his views imho.

Isn't that strange?

Good point.
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#61

07-13-2002, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by letshunt
I just couldn't resist chiming in...

1. The world is about money, oil and power. Isn't that strange.
2. Get in the way of that and you are shit out of luck
3. Idealism looks great on paper, I doubt you would be eager to wait in line for gas...and the Arabs definately want to insure that we continue buying it and more.

Pop your head out your ass, this isn't some esoteric fucking college debate, it about money. The world is about money whether anyone likes it or not. Look at all the stupid ass tricks webmaster play on each other to earn that extra sign up.

Having been through one "conflict", rest assured that when you get a whole bunch of guys and equipment together, and all the equipment is designed to kill people, some of the wrong people are gonna get killed. Personally, if I was under constant surveillance I wouldn't start shooting guns in the air...I am sure that lit up some ones infrared monitor and brought the wrath of C-130 gunships on them. It's a war and I find it hard to believe that anyone could be so stupid.

Then again, these Afgans ain't Charlie. That is a fact, too.

Good points.
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07-14-2002, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by [Labret]
Like the world doesnt know that the reason we are even remotely interested in the middle east is due to oil.

If they had no oil they would still be camel riding nomadic camel fuckers and we would care about them about as much politically as we do Africa.

Isnt that strange.

Exactly!

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#63

07-14-2002, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by Splicer

Exactly!

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07-14-2002, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by Tipsy
I didn't make it past the first line. What a waste of the life of the microswitch in my mouse button.

isn't that strange? I agree....

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#65

07-14-2002, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
This board is more fun since Massivecock showed up.

What happened to Pathfinder, though?

I am here. Where are you?
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#66

07-14-2002, 06:06 AM

Originally posted by Pathfinder

Wrong on all counts.

You think so... I got those number from the The American War Library maybe you have some other information that you can post - with links so your numbers can be checked.
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#67

07-14-2002, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Oh, gee now here's your concept of factuality: You've just about doubled the number actually dead from the WTC and you seem to forget that the Taliban was executing Afghan women for such offenses as laughing or dancing or the mere suspicion of infidelity or immodesty. There isn't much evidence the Afghans would prefer that to the cost of the war, but perhaps you can find some.

Sorry 4000 dead at wtc.

"Taliban was executing Afghan women for such offenses as laughing or dancing or the mere suspicion of infidelity or immodesty. "

So we should bomb the fuck out of the whole country
and kill 1000"s of afgans cause some of the Taliban live there?

Did you know the Taliban Destroyed all herion crops in afgan
thereby reducing the worlds herion supply by 90%.

That was until the Usa Came in and gave 43 million dollars
to all of the herion farmers who went out of business... and told
them to hang tight... shortly after the Usa Attacks..
Then suddenly the herion farmers are back in full swing, not only
that! They are protected by american soldiers!

43 million dollars to herion farmers in afgan?

What happened to the war on drugs the usa declared?

Ohh thats only a show for the public in usa.
ha!
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#68

07-14-2002, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by Pathfinder

Good point.

I think it was 34 million..
typo..obviously.
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07-14-2002, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by Captain Canada

You think so... I got those number from the The American War Library maybe you have some other information that you can post - with links so your numbers can be checked.

I will look it over, but as I recall, the number of combat fatalities in the Gulf War was not even 165, let alone 165 killed by friendly fire. As I recall there were more accidental deaths during strength building then there were combat deaths. The total number of deaths may indeed exceed 300.

As for the 60,000 combat deaths in Vietnam I will let that pass, because it is close enough to the actual count. By the way the actual count exceeds 60,000 because the military usually refers to combat related deaths, when providing a body count. Accidental deaths are separated out as are deaths from sickness.

As for the 40% friendly fire number, I served three tours as a combatant and from personell experience and from word of mouth I can tell you that this number is not anywhere close to being accurate, as it applies to the loss of our military personell.

As I stated I will look the link over and may get back to this.

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07-15-2002, 07:48 AM

Captain Canada:

I looked over the link you provided. It appears to me that the site is putting out mis-information for whatever their reason.

I did a quick search this morning and came up with this link about the Gulf War.

http://www.cryan.com/war/

"The United States suffered 148 killed in action, 458 wounded, 121 killed in nonhostile actions and 11 female combat deaths."

Some of the above were friendly fire casualties, but the site doesn't provided a percentage, but in the case of the Gulf War, the percentage was to high for the number of combat casualities.

I do not need to do any research on Vietnam for me to know that the 39% number of friendly fire casualties is way to high.

I was a professional soldier for more than thirty years and I served three tours in Vietnam as a combatant. I know from personel experience as well as by word of mouth, that 39% would be too high.

Unfortunately, in every war friendly fire represents a certain percentage of combat casualties (sometimes intentionally as well as unintentionally).

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07-15-2002, 07:56 AM

Bush blamed Bin Laden but has never offered any proof saying it?s a "secret". Isn't that strange?

Taliban offered to negotiate to turn over Bin Laden if we showed them some proof. We refused; we bombed. Isn't that strange?

Yet there is undeniable proof that Bin Laden was involved (I refer to the video evidence of Bin Laden saying he didn't think the WTC would actually fall over once hit by the planes..)

Isn't that strange? Stupid fuck.

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