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  • Daruma
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2002
    • 3494

    #1

    XBiz and AVN both did NOT cover the NATS breach.....

    So much for unbiased reporting...

    RIP TD
  • MaDalton
    I am Amazing Content!
    • Feb 2004
    • 39861

    #2
    they are on holiday probably
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    • Daruma
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2002
      • 3494

      #3
      But they where able to post more important news...

      http://www.xbiz.com/news/88203
      http://www.avn.com/index.cfm?objecti...8FC19C5DB0E9EB

      RIP TD

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      • MaDalton
        I am Amazing Content!
        • Feb 2004
        • 39861

        #4
        Originally posted by Daruma
        lol - ok - you win
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        • Iron Fist
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Dec 2006
          • 23400

          #5
          i like waffles

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          • TheSenator
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Feb 2003
            • 13330

            #6
            "All Boys Distribution Revamps Logo, Website" You know Juicy loves that kind of news.
            ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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            • Daruma
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2002
              • 3494

              #7
              Originally posted by TheSenator
              "All Boys Distribution Revamps Logo, Website" You know Juicy loves that kind of news.
              thats industry breaking news if I've ever heard it...

              RIP TD

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              • Oracle Porn
                Affiliate
                • Oct 2002
                • 24433

                #8
                everyone is in this industry only for money

                ethics? journalism? are you guys high on pcp?

                m-o-n-e-y


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                • Daruma
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 3494

                  #9
                  I'd really be surprised if this story gets covered in either one and if so - how it gets covered..

                  RIP TD

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                  • JFK
                    FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 67369

                    #10
                    before reporting something like this, I'm sure they have to check with a whole bunch of Lawyers, so as not to leave themselfes open to a law suit

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                    • Daruma
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                      • Nov 2002
                      • 3494

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JFK
                      before reporting something like this, I'm sure they have to check with a whole bunch of Lawyers, so as not to leave themselfes open to a law suit
                      yes agreed - which means that it never get reported..

                      RIP TD

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                      • JFK
                        FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 67369

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Daruma
                        yes agreed - which means that it never get reported..
                        ever try and get a hold of lawyers this timeof year ??

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                        • pornlaw
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                          • Feb 2007
                          • 1902

                          #13
                          ever try and get a hold of lawyers this timeof year ??
                          I talked to Tom and Quentin from XBiz earlier this week.

                          I will call Tom today and pass along the info and see if they will cover it.
                          Michael

                          www.AdultBizLaw.com

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                          • notoldschool
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 5687

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pornlaw
                            I talked to Tom and Quentin from XBiz earlier this week.

                            I will call Tom today and pass along the info and see if they will cover it.
                            WOW! now we are all impressed that you are involved. The world is saved.

                            TO JOHNTMM. When the lawyers get involved make sure that you drag EVERY affiliates name into court AND point out all the bad shit they promote so they are all dragged into court for pushing porn in Illegal states. They should all be jailed if they do NOT live in california.
                            No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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                            • ninavain
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 6268

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Daruma
                              LOL-God no wonder I never read that boring stuff

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                              • baddog
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 107089

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Daruma
                                I suspect that the Saturday and Sunday "news" is preloaded in the system before they leave work Friday.

                                Just a guess, but I would be VERY surprised if they actually had someone in the office posting new articles over the weekend.

                                Alec isn't that much of a slave driver.

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                                • Sebastian Sands
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2005
                                  • 5223

                                  #17
                                  Do you realize what could happen if shit like this gets picked up by news channels? It starts with AVN/XBIZ but watch when a major mainstream channel like FOX or CNN picks it up.
                                  And we all know how much they like this industry, they make it sound like a major creditcard scheme was going on or whatever. Trust me it will hurt everyones signs ups.

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                                  • Daruma
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 3494

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Sebastian Sands
                                    Do you realize what could happen if shit like this gets picked up by news channels? It starts with AVN/XBIZ but watch when a major mainstream channel like FOX or CNN picks it up.
                                    And we all know how much they like this industry, they make it sound like a major creditcard scheme was going on or whatever. Trust me it will hurt everyones signs ups.
                                    agreed - however it should have and could have been handled much better from the very beginning

                                    RIP TD

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                                    • minusonebit
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Feb 2006
                                      • 7391

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by JFK
                                      before reporting something like this, I'm sure they have to check with a whole bunch of Lawyers, so as not to leave themselfes open to a law suit
                                      Bullshit. First amendment protection is VERY strong for news media. It is very hard to sue a newspaper for libel. You have to not only prove that that libel was committed but also that the publication knew or should have known that the story they ran with was false.

                                      They are not publishing it because its not politically correct or popular to do so. AVN and XBIZ are both publications with a strong bias for not only the prevailing opinion in the adult industry but they also love to write newsvertisements about people they like.

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                                      • JFK
                                        FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 67369

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by minusonebit
                                        Bullshit. First amendment protection is VERY strong for news media. It is very hard to sue a newspaper for libel. You have to not only prove that that libel was committed but also that the publication knew or should have known that the story they ran with was false.

                                        They are not publishing it because its not politically correct or popular to do so. AVN and XBIZ are both publications with a strong bias for not only the prevailing opinion in the adult industry but they also love to write newsvertisements about people they like.
                                        Bullshit, according to you! As I am sure, you have very deep pockets to protect you from a frivolous law suit. By the time someting winds tru the system, it could bankrupt you in legals, so you were found innocent, so what? At what cost ?

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                                        • tony299
                                          lurker
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 57021

                                          #21
                                          You cant be unbiased when the people you are reporting on buy ads from you. Thats why you rarely if ever see people called on the carpet in those two industry publications.

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                                          • notoldschool
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2007
                                            • 5687

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Daruma
                                            agreed - however it should have and could have been handled much better from the very beginning
                                            THIS IS NOT AN ADULT WEBMASTER. HE WORKS FOR ADULTS OPPOSITION.

                                            please move away from him and his threads.
                                            No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                            -- Learned Hand

                                            http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                            • notoldschool
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2007
                                              • 5687

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by minusonebit
                                              Bullshit. First amendment protection is VERY strong for news media. It is very hard to sue a newspaper for libel. You have to not only prove that that libel was committed but also that the publication knew or should have known that the story they ran with was false.

                                              They are not publishing it because its not politically correct or popular to do so. AVN and XBIZ are both publications with a strong bias for not only the prevailing opinion in the adult industry but they also love to write newsvertisements about people they like.

                                              THIS IS NOT AN ADULT WEBMASTER.

                                              please add him to your ignore list.
                                              No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                              -- Learned Hand

                                              http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                              • C H R I S
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Nov 2005
                                                • 10842

                                                #24
                                                AVN will cover this story, our Senior Editor working on it now. Its a complicated story and we intend to cover it fairly and unbiased - being a holiday weekend we will need to contact all the parties involved. We wont just throw up a story to be 1st - we have to contact parties involved and make sure the facts are straight.

                                                I cant speak for XBIZ, but I am sure they as well as us will cover it as it is an important issue that effects the industry.
                                                C H R I S
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                                                • notoldschool
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                  • 5687

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by AVNChris
                                                  AVN will cover this story, our Senior Editor working on it now. Its a complicated story and we intend to cover it fairly and unbiased - being a holiday weekend we will need to contact all the parties involved. We wont just throw up a story to be 1st - we have to contact parties involved and make sure the facts are straight.

                                                  I cant speak for XBIZ, but I am sure they as well as us will cover it as it is an important issue that effects the industry.
                                                  wow. now i feel all safe inside.
                                                  No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                  -- Learned Hand

                                                  http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                                  • JFK
                                                    FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 67369

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by AVNChris
                                                    AVN will cover this story, our Senior Editor working on it now. Its a complicated story and we intend to cover it fairly and unbiased - being a holiday weekend we will need to contact all the parties involved. We wont just throw up a story to be 1st - we have to contact parties involved and make sure the facts are straight.

                                                    I cant speak for XBIZ, but I am sure they as well as us will cover it as it is an important issue that effects the industry.
                                                    Right on Chris

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                                                    • JFK
                                                      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 67369

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                      THIS IS NOT AN ADULT WEBMASTER.

                                                      please add him to your ignore list.
                                                      Thanks for the info

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                                                      • Bama
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Nov 2001
                                                        • 2727

                                                        #28
                                                        What exactly do you expect the story to say? As of right now, no one knows any real details..

                                                        This is PollyWolly Dinglehoffer reporting live from AAAAVeeIn...

                                                        It has recently been reported that an unknown person from an unknown location has breached the admin section from an unknown number of webmaster programs using the NATS affiliate software.

                                                        It's not clear what information was taken nor is it known if the unknown perpetrator from the unknown location has used any personal webmaster information. Since we have no clue if any personal webmaster information was used, we don't know which webmaster was affected or in what way.

                                                        Stay tuned to this story as we bring you further details giving you the information as it unfolds. For now, this is PollyWolly Dinglehoffer reporting live from AAAAVeeIn...

                                                        The trouble with town criers is that they get 1 sliver of information and then start using words like "might", "could", "perhaps", "should", "would". You won't hear them use the words "is" or "does" very often when they shout from the roof-tops.

                                                        Yeah, it sucks that it happened, but the person who did it will most likely be caught. Keep in mind that they didn't "hack" the program, they knew the user name and password that NATS admins used for themselves - either from setting up NATS on their own servers, or a friend of someone who set up NATS on their server.

                                                        Since this was a breach and not a hack, it would seem reasonable that the person wasn't specifically after webmaster personal data such as social security numbers but rather the email addresses.

                                                        Once they start using them, and with the help of law enforcement, it's not hard to trace it back to the person/persons involved.

                                                        So, run off and change your epass (and similar) passwords. You're an idiot to repetitively use the same passwords over and over to begin with and the nuisance is your punishment. Keep an eye out for shared passwords for your members section and you'll most likely find that this is the worst you'll suffer from all this.
                                                        Last edited by Bama; 12-23-2007, 10:52 AM.

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                                                        • notoldschool
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                          • 5687

                                                          #29
                                                          I doubt it. Most program owners do not read them there paid for stories.
                                                          No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                          -- Learned Hand

                                                          http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                                          • baddog
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                            • 107089

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                            THIS IS NOT AN ADULT WEBMASTER. HE WORKS FOR ADULTS OPPOSITION.

                                                            please move away from him and his threads.
                                                            what exactly do you do?

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                                                            • notoldschool
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2007
                                                              • 5687

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                              what exactly do you do?

                                                              I am an adult webmaster who began working in the industry in 2003.
                                                              No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                              -- Learned Hand

                                                              http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                                              • notoldschool
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Aug 2007
                                                                • 5687

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
                                                                www.natssponsors.com trust me this is a list you don't want to be on right about now.
                                                                i like you man, but i have to disagree.
                                                                Im sure most people who post on this board wish they owned one of those proggies.

                                                                I dont mean to speak for everyone but Im sure most of the guys on that list could survive for years to come just off their rebills. You give too much credit to the folks that post here. Most are insiginifigant.
                                                                No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                                -- Learned Hand

                                                                http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                                                • notoldschool
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                                  • 5687

                                                                  #33
                                                                  PS. before you ask why i post here then.

                                                                  I post for sport. Its a great board to pass the time without getting much accomplished.
                                                                  No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                                  -- Learned Hand

                                                                  http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                                                  • commonsense
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Feb 2007
                                                                    • 1790

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Bama
                                                                    What exactly do you expect the story to say? As of right now, no one knows any real details..

                                                                    This is PollyWolly Dinglehoffer reporting live from AAAAVeeIn...

                                                                    It has recently been reported that an unknown person from an unknown location has breached the admin section from an unknown number of webmaster programs using the NATS affiliate software.

                                                                    It's not clear what information was taken nor is it known if the unknown perpetrator from the unknown location has used any personal webmaster information. Since we have no clue if any personal webmaster information was used, we don't know which webmaster was affected or in what way.

                                                                    Stay tuned to this story as we bring you further details giving you the information as it unfolds. For now, this is PollyWolly Dinglehoffer reporting live from AAAAVeeIn...

                                                                    The trouble with town criers is that they get 1 sliver of information and then start using words like "might", "could", "perhaps", "should", "would". You won't hear them use the words "is" or "does" very often when they shout from the roof-tops.

                                                                    Yeah, it sucks that it happened, but the person who did it will most likely be caught. Keep in mind that they didn't "hack" the program, they knew the user name and password that NATS admins used for themselves - either from setting up NATS on their own servers, or a friend of someone who set up NATS on their server.

                                                                    Since this was a breach and not a hack, it would seem reasonable that the person wasn't specifically after webmaster personal data such as social security numbers but rather the email addresses.

                                                                    Once they start using them, and with the help of law enforcement, it's not hard to trace it back to the person/persons involved.

                                                                    So, run off and change your epass (and similar) passwords. You're an idiot to repetitively use the same passwords over and over to begin with and the nuisance is your punishment. Keep an eye out for shared passwords for your members section and you'll most likely find that this is the worst you'll suffer from all this.
                                                                    Awesome post

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                                                                    • Daruma
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                      • 3494

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                                      THIS IS NOT AN ADULT WEBMASTER. HE WORKS FOR ADULTS OPPOSITION.

                                                                      please move away from him and his threads.
                                                                      ya - buddy - I may not be the webmaster day to day but I still own programs..
                                                                      your correct - adult is NOT my day to day bread and butter but it still brings in good coin..

                                                                      RIP TD

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                                                                      • minusonebit
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                                        • 7391

                                                                        #36


                                                                        Well, I just submitted my story to them through the PR Blaster thing. So they wont be able to say they weren't aware of the story.

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                                                                        • minusonebit
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                                          • 7391

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by JFK
                                                                          Bullshit, according to you! As I am sure, you have very deep pockets to protect you from a frivolous law suit. By the time someting winds tru the system, it could bankrupt you in legals, so you were found innocent, so what? At what cost ?
                                                                          Thats why the countersuit was created. And several states now have a vexatious litigator act which can be used to put the hurt on someone who maintains baseless suits in the courts for the sheer pleasure of making people squirm.

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                                                                          • minusonebit
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Feb 2006
                                                                            • 7391

                                                                            #38
                                                                            ----- Forwarded message from [email protected] -----
                                                                            Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 01:49:32 -0800
                                                                            From: [email protected]
                                                                            Reply-To: [email protected]
                                                                            Subject: XBIZ Newscaster - Receipt Confirmation


                                                                            <html><body>
                                                                            <br>Thank you for submitting your company news to XBIZ.
                                                                            <br>
                                                                            <br>Your news release has been received and will be processed shortly.
                                                                            <br>
                                                                            <br>
                                                                            <br><a href='mailto:[email protected]'>[email protected]</a>
                                                                            <br>(866) XBIZ-NEWS
                                                                            <br>(310) 820-0228
                                                                            <br><a href='http://xbiz.com'>http://xbiz.com</a>
                                                                            </body></html>
                                                                            ----- End forwarded message -----

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                                                                            • DamianJ
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                              • 15808

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Bama
                                                                              What exactly do you expect the story to say? As of right now, no one knows any real details..
                                                                              Isn't usually the job of a journalist to unearth the details?

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                                                                              • tony299
                                                                                lurker
                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                • 57021

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                Isn't usually the job of a journalist to unearth the details?
                                                                                They wont do that,they will print what they are told. It will be like a multi page press release.

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