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  • SetTheWorldonFire
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    #1

    Do fish get thirsty?

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  • revbuddylove
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    Q: Do fish drink water?
    A: Fresh water fish drink a little water and take in limited amounts with their food.
    Saltwater fish (marine fish) drink large quantities of seawater to maintain their water balance, retaining most of the water and excreting the salt.

    Both types of fish take in water through their mouths, exchanging the dissolved oxygen and carbon dioxide in the water by means of the gills. In this case fish are not drinking, they're breathing.

    From:
    Ecncyclopedia Britannica
    v. 19, pp. 196-7
    OUGL Reference AE 5E 363
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    • Cheshire
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      • SetTheWorldonFire
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        #4
        Originally posted by revbuddylove
        Q: Do fish drink water?
        A: Fresh water fish drink a little water and take in limited amounts with their food.
        Saltwater fish (marine fish) drink large quantities of seawater to maintain their water balance, retaining most of the water and excreting the salt.

        Both types of fish take in water through their mouths, exchanging the dissolved oxygen and carbon dioxide in the water by means of the gills. In this case fish are not drinking, they're breathing.

        From:
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        v. 19, pp. 196-7
        OUGL Reference AE 5E 363
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        • Nina
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          #5
          Originally posted by Cheshire
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            • volante
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              #7
              That was an easy question! Try this one instead:

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              • titmowse
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                #8
                i got some fishy questions.

                i just bought three bettas (two males, one female). i have them in three seperate little covered bowls/tanks. i also bought some ghost shrimp and snails to live with them.

                the thing is, the ghost shrimp died within six hours after i put them in the bowls. one snail was dead when i got it home and another (a golden mystery shrimp) died the next day. what did i do wrong?

                was there not enough algea for the snail? did the betta food kill it?

                did the ghost shrimp die cause of the betta food?

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                • SetTheWorldonFire
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                  • Cheshire
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                    #10
                    How long did you have the tank set up before you added fish?
                    You gotta get the bacteria balances right first ~ otherwise they start the perma-float


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                    • Nina
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                      #11
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                      • SetTheWorldonFire
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cheshire
                        How long did you have the tank set up before you added fish?
                        You gotta get the bacteria balances right first ~ otherwise they start the perma-float
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                        • titmowse
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                          #13
                          well, the two males are in quart sized tanks and the female is in a gallon tank.

                          i set all the fishies in their water bags in the tank water to get them used to the temperature. then, i just dumped em in along with the water they came in.

                          i was bad though, i just put the snails and ghost shrimp into the tanks after i put the fishies in.
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                          • titmowse
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                            #14
                            btw, the bettas and the one snail seem to be doing fine. it's the ghost shrimp and the one snail that died. i think the snail died cause he hugged some of the plastic plants and cut himself to death.
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                            • Cheshire
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                              #15
                              Two male betas should not be in a tank together from what I understand. Also you need to have 'starter fish' in your tank for a week or two (not sure on length) to get the balances bearable for more delicate fish systems.


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                              • ServerGenius
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                                #16
                                Can fish drown?

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                                • titmowse
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                                  #17
                                  the males aren't together. they're in their own separate tanks as is the femail. from all i've read, bettas are freshwater fishies who rather like living alone.

                                  anyways. it isn't the bettas i'm worried about. i'm trying to fugure out why the ghost shrimp and the snail died.
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                                  • volante
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DynaSpain
                                    Can fish drown?

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                                    Apparently so...

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                                    • titmowse
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                                      #19
                                      fuck, now i can't spell. i need to go get me some dinner. laters
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                                      • SetTheWorldonFire
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by volante


                                        Apparently so...
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                                        • ServerGenius
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by volante


                                          Apparently so...
                                          Interesting fish drown on land.....by lethal overdose of air...

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                                          • SetTheWorldonFire
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                                            #22
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                                            • Cheshire
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                                              #23
                                              The main issue titmowse is the bacteria level in the water ~ one must prep a tank with 'starter fish', like goldfish, to get the bacteria levels at the right balance to support other more delicate fish.
                                              If you didn't do that first it's probably why the fish are dying.

                                              Call the store where you bought them and ask what to do


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                                              • ServerGenius
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                                                #24
                                                I hear skinny dipping in the tank also helps getting the bacteria
                                                level stablelised....make sure to post pics here so I can confirm
                                                you're doing it the correct way......

                                                In name of the fish.....THANK YOU!

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                                                • volante
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire

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                                                  • revbuddylove
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Cheshire
                                                    The main issue titmowse is the bacteria level in the water ~ one must prep a tank with 'starter fish', like goldfish, to get the bacteria levels at the right balance to support other more delicate fish.
                                                    If you didn't do that first it's probably why the fish are dying.

                                                    Call the store where you bought them and ask what to do
                                                    Oh I see, I guess I'm not the only one Miss I'm-wicked-nerdy-when-it-comes-to-fish-tank-bacteria-levels-but-i'll-call-the-reverand-a-nerd-for-knowing-that-fish-drink-water-to-varying-degrees-depending-on-whether-they-are-a-fresh-water-or-salt-water-fish.........
                                                    Shit, I forgot my point...

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                                                    • SetTheWorldonFire
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                                                      #27
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                                                      • Cheshire
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by revbuddylove


                                                        Oh I see, I guess I'm not the only one Miss I'm-wicked-nerdy-when-it-comes-to-fish-tank-bacteria-levels-but-i'll-call-the-reverand-a-nerd-for-knowing-that-fish-drink-water-to-varying-degrees-depending-on-whether-they-are-a-fresh-water-or-salt-water-fish.........
                                                        Shit, I forgot my point...

                                                        Did you notice that I said "wicked" there? That's my stay in Boston coming out
                                                        Well excuse me all over the place!
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                                                        • Sly_RJ
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Nina


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                                                          • SetTheWorldonFire
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                                                            • titmowse
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                                                              #31
                                                              but cheshire. the FISH are fine. it's the ghost shrimp and the snail that died. don't make me slap you.
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                                                              • volante
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by titmowse
                                                                but cheshire. the FISH are fine. it's the ghost shrimp and the snail that died. don't make me slap you.
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                                                                • Quoth the Raven
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Cheshire
                                                                  haha ~ you're a NERD
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                                                                  • Cheshire
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    My bad ~ I guess shrimp and snails don't have to 'breathe' and stuff


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                                                                    • Ace-Ace
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Nina



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                                                                      • kmanrox
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                                                                        #36
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                                                                        • titmowse
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          sorry cheshire. i guess i was caught up in all the drama floating around. (insert pun here)

                                                                          i understand about the shrimp and snail needing the tank funk (bacteria) and can see how they might have starved/choked to death.

                                                                          as far as the bettas are concerned, from everything i've read, they are the one fish who does well in a solitary bowl/tank environment. aren't bettas starter fish?
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                                                                          • LadyD
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Have you ever put a mirror up to the betta fish tank. The fish freaks out...puffs out its gills and gets all pissed off.

                                                                            Really wierd.

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                                                                            • SetTheWorldonFire
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Are those inhouse, in a vase, and under a plant black chinese or japenese fish. Those are like ninjas. They see other fish and attack. I think that's why they're always supposed to be alone.
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                                                                              • Cheshire
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                I guess they could be ~ I've seen them in such small, naked tanks... maybe you should wait a month before adding any new life to your blossoming aquatic environment just to be safe

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                                                                                • titmowse
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  well cheshire, i think you're right. i should have just gotten the bettas and dealt with other sea critters later. i've never had fish before and thought bettas were a good, easy fishie to start with. i bought them online cause there's no pet store in my town. i got the other critters cause i guess, i was a lil too enthusiastic. sigh.

                                                                                  ladyd, since i have two males, i just imtermittantly put their lil tanks together throughout they day and they do puff up. the info says, that's one way they get exercise. they also say if they blow bubbles, that means they are happy and my boys are blowing bubbles!

                                                                                  the girl does too. she's pink and i call her princess.
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                                                                                  • FATPad
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    how big is this tank everything died in?
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                                                                                    • titmowse
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      three tanks. not tanks, so much as bowls with lids. two were a quart each and one was one gallon. i had two ghost shrimp in each and one snail as well., along with each tank's betta
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                                                                                      • FATPad
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Those are way too small to be keeping anything in.

                                                                                        And even though all pet stores sell betas in those tiny little bowls, I think it's mean...
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                                                                                        • titmowse
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          well, fatpad. i would like to agree with you but everything i've read about bettas say they like small bowls. these are fish that were discovered thriving in small puddles full of funk in rice paddies. mine spit bubbles all day which is supposed to be a sign of a happy betta.

                                                                                          the shrimp and the snails were my mistake. i too thought they would be lonely. but that's me projecting human feelings on an animal. sorry little snails. sorry little shrimps.
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                                                                                          • gaby
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Cheshire
                                                                                            The main issue titmowse is the bacteria level in the water ~ one must prep a tank with 'starter fish', like goldfish, to get the bacteria levels at the right balance to support other more delicate fish.
                                                                                            If you didn't do that first it's probably why the fish are dying.

                                                                                            Call the store where you bought them and ask what to do

                                                                                            they sell live bacteria to speed up the cycle of the tank..

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                                                                                            • SetTheWorldonFire
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                                                                                              #47
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                                                                                              • FATPad
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by titmowse
                                                                                                well, fatpad. i would like to agree with you but everything i've read about bettas say they like small bowls. these are fish that were discovered thriving in small puddles full of funk in rice paddies. mine spit bubbles all day which is supposed to be a sign of a happy betta.

                                                                                                the shrimp and the snails were my mistake. i too thought they would be lonely. but that's me projecting human feelings on an animal. sorry little snails. sorry little shrimps.
                                                                                                I've had a number of betas, both in those little bowls and in 29 gallon tanks. I will never keep one in a bowl after that, regardless of what people say. I'm not saying you're evil for doing it, because I know that everything people read says it's good for them....but after having kept them both ways, I can only tell you what I saw from personal experience. Take it for what it's worth, but don't think I'm accusing you of torturing fish. Just giving you an alternative perspective based on past experience.
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                                                                                                • Phil21
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                                                                                                  Hrm.. fish.

                                                                                                  The reason you "start" a tank with some feeders are whatnot, is indeed to "cycle" the tank. Your fish start poopin' and old fish food starts to decompose and such, it makes the water rich for algea to grow. That's why a short time after you get your new tank, it will just be FULL of algea if you don't clean it. The algea should then pretty much eat it's way to not having enough food to sustain itself, and go back down to a decent maintainable level. A short time after this it's safe to start introducing more delecate fish. IIRC it takes around 3 to 4 weeks, longer or shorter depending on tank size, etc. of course. Been a LONG time since I've had to deal with it though, so I may be a bit wrong. Any local fish store can test your water and tell you where you are in the "cycle". Usually costs a buck or two.

                                                                                                  I work for a fish distributor now to get some extra cash to pay the bills.. So I'm thinking when things pick back up again I'm going to start a sweet marine aquarium. You wouldn't believe the markup on fish, it's just nuts. 500% in some cases from distributor cost to retail price. Yeesh. Guess a lot do expire in-transit and such, but still.

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                                                                                                  • alias
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    yep u need beneficial aerobic bacteria [nitrosomas sp]

                                                                                                    larger volume of water, big tank with dividers will work

                                                                                                    bacteria are present naturally, buy they do need to establish themselves or can be purchased as mentioned

                                                                                                    about the bettas needing small tanks thats bullshit they just need to be seperated from other males

                                                                                                    do not use bowls for anything but 1 betta, for shrimp and more delicate fish you will need an aquarium with filtration

                                                                                                    larger volumes of water are more stable, buy the biggest tank you can fit or afford

                                                                                                    ghost shrimp are not as hardy as the bettas do not attempt to introduce them until the tanks is "cycled" aka has bacteria bed built up

                                                                                                    the fish, shrimp etc depend upon you to survive, do not torture them
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