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  • Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE
    So Fucking Banned
    • Sep 2002
    • 7515
    #51
    Originally posted by jscott
    Any input from NATS on this matter? I find this very disturbing, need a little reassurance please John
    why do you care, you don't even have an affiliate program

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      • mattyboy
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2003
        • 1070
        #52
        Originally posted by Jet
        why do you care, you don't even have an affiliate program
        Perhaps his details have got into the wrong hands if hes joined nats programs

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          • borked
            Totally Borked
            • Feb 2005
            • 6284
            #53
            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
            i find it odd they would allow an employee one user/pass to get into every nats sponsor.

            i find it doubly odd that nobody from nats noticed this account had been compromised before it was posted on gfy.
            The TMM login name seems pretty generic and long. AFAIK, there isn't one master access user/pass that accesses all installs.

            John said in another thread that it "fully appears to be a compromised password list", so I guess the TMM passwords all got out somehow.

            Looks like that's all closed now as he also stated "We have changed our policy so that we no longer maintain ANY passwords to ensure this does not happen via us ever in the future"

            For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com
            (consider figuring out the email as test #1)


            All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202

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              • borked
                Totally Borked
                • Feb 2005
                • 6284
                #54
                So, to summarise, since John's last post has gotten buried in a lot of FUD

                It looks like a password list has gotten out so NATS owners should contact TMM to see if their customer data has been compromised. OC3 ([email protected]) have also said they can help people with this.

                TMM have or are in the process of changing all TMM passwords throughout their client base.

                TMM have now taken additional security measures by not storing all passes on their end to prevent this happening again.

                TMM are adding additional security measures (1-way encrypted passes) in future NATS releases.

                So, if I'm not mistaken, any current NATS owners should now be secured (or over the next day or two) from further compromise via this route.

                But, in all, everyone, nomatter what software you use, should take database security very seriously and daily audit any accounts (ssh/mysql/web-based) that have privilege access.

                Looks like this issue has come to resolution, so I'm off to enjoy my holidays

                For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com
                (consider figuring out the email as test #1)


                All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202

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                  • s9ann0
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 4873
                    #55
                    It wouldn't be the first time it had happenned and it wouldn't be the first time someone got an admin's password and used it on other machines either.

                    I thought NATS were more security conscious than most though

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                      • Paul Markham
                        Too old to care
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 52942
                        #56
                        Originally posted by iMind
                        threats of lawsuit in 10, 9 , 8 , 7 ...
                        The lawsuit might be coming, but in a different direction.



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                          • notoldschool
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 5687
                            #57
                            NATS haters unite..lol. TMM is awesome and unliKe most other companies in the industry are on the problems before or as they happen. Its funny you see the shady programs come in here to bash nats when they are the most suspect. Your stats scare the shit out of me....0/10ooo+.

                            DO NOT TRUST PROGRAMS THAT HAVE CUSTOM BACKENDS. THEY ARE THE ONES TO WATCH FOR.
                            No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                            -- Learned Hand

                            http://www.bjpenn.com

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                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 28609
                                #58
                                Originally posted by notoldschool
                                NATS haters unite..lol. TMM is awesome and unliKe most other companies in the industry are on the problems before or as they happen.
                                thats funny because they were aware of this problem many moons ago and yet instead of fixing the problem they put the blame on their customers. meanwhile MY personal information was stolen.. that doesnt sound like being "on the problem" this issue has been going on for MONTHS.



                                Originally posted by notoldschool
                                Its funny you see the shady programs come in here to bash nats when they are the most suspect. Your stats scare the shit out of me....0/10ooo+.
                                you must be the "exception" to the rule , i have never seen any sponsors "bashing" nats , and i think any long term webmaster has noticed non-nats sponsors perform better as a whole.

                                Originally posted by notoldschool


                                DO NOT TRUST PROGRAMS THAT HAVE CUSTOM BACKENDS. THEY ARE THE ONES TO WATCH FOR.
                                like nastydollars and bangbros , industry leaders ?
                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                    • Jun 2004
                                    • 28609
                                    #59
                                    p.s. i should also mention at this point that one of the only sponsors i have heard from that WASN'T hacked was mayors money, and this is because THEY went thru extra security measures above and beyond.

                                    big props to mayors money, your info is secure
                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                        • Jun 2004
                                        • 28609
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by borked
                                        TMM have now taken additional security measures by not storing all passes on their end to prevent this happening again.
                                        i wonder if one of their security measures will be to listen to their clients and stop blaming their customers for their own security problems.
                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                          • TheDoc
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 13827
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                            p.s. i should also mention at this point that one of the only sponsors i have heard from that WASN'T hacked was mayors money, and this is because THEY went thru extra security measures above and beyond.

                                            big props to mayors money, your info is secure
                                            http://www.mayorsmoney.com/
                                            http://www.score-group.com/
                                            http://www.evilgneiuscash.com/
                                            http://www.dukedollars.com/

                                            I haven't checked everyone and as I do have updated - corrected them. Thus far, these 4 programs do not have any logins from that IP.

                                            This is a short list of the SEVERAL that use the NATS built in security features that protect your members, webmasters, and admin data.

                                            NATS has the security features already - question is which sponsors are using them?
                                            Last edited by TheDoc; 12-22-2007, 07:46 AM.
                                            ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                            It's all disambiguation

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                                              • spacedog
                                                Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                                                • Nov 2001
                                                • 14149
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by mattyboy
                                                Perhaps his details have got into the wrong hands if hes joined nats programs
                                                While that certainly is a possibility, there's no indication that this has occured.
                                                It so far just appears to be a harvest of emails

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                                                  • borked
                                                    Totally Borked
                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 6284
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                    I haven't checked everyone and as I do have updated - corrected them. Thus far, these 4 programs do not have any logins from that IP.
                                                    You need to be checking not for just that IP, but *any* IP on the TMM account that isn't TMM's (67.84.12.95)

                                                    For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com
                                                    (consider figuring out the email as test #1)


                                                    All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202

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                                                      • TheDoc
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 13827
                                                        #64
                                                        Mod to above post, wrong URL for score, duh..

                                                        http://www.score-cash.com/ (clean program)
                                                        ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                        It's all disambiguation

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                                                          • TheDoc
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                            • 13827
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by borked
                                                            You need to be checking not for just that IP, but *any* IP on the TMM account that isn't TMM's (67.84.12.95)
                                                            Aye, I know this.. When the NATS systems are IP locked, nobody but the allowed IP's can access the backend.
                                                            ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                            It's all disambiguation

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                                                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                • Jun 2004
                                                                • 28609
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by spacedog
                                                                While that certainly is a possibility, there's no indication that this has occured.
                                                                It so far just appears to be a harvest of emails
                                                                i would find it very unlikely they "only" grabbing emails of members.

                                                                the bot is likely used to maintain the list thats why it accesses so often but the affiliate info would likely only be grabbed once making it alot harder to spot amongst the hundreds of email grabs
                                                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                  • Gordon G
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • May 2006
                                                                    • 646
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by Jet
                                                                    why do you care, you don't even have an affiliate program
                                                                    Why do you care, you are just a contest whore, amazing you are actually posting in a thread that is not a contest, you silly fuck.

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                                                                      • milan
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • May 2005
                                                                        • 800
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                        i would find it very unlikely they "only" grabbing emails of members.

                                                                        the bot is likely used to maintain the list thats why it accesses so often but the affiliate info would likely only be grabbed once making it alot harder to spot amongst the hundreds of email grabs

                                                                        True since they full access they probably collected much more... I just posted what we discovered back in October 2007

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                                                                          • D
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2006
                                                                            • 7412
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by borked
                                                                            No, members passes are cleartext by default. Affiliate passwords are two-way encrypted. What I don't understand is why the need for two-way encryption? To reset an affiliates pass if they forgot it in the backend is nothing, so 1-way encryption would have been far better. John posted in another thread that this is to be included in NATS4. Shame it wasn't sooner IMPO.
                                                                            Perhaps I'm misremembering, but I coulda sworn that affiliate passwords were displayed... is the encryption something that's changed in the last eighteen months?

                                                                            And even if passwords are not available, I do, certainly, remember the 'become reseller' option... can affiliates examine their own password via their account's interface, or no? If "no," maybe the case is that I've misremembered, and would appreciate confirmation on that.

                                                                            Been awhile, and I don't have an updated version of NATs in front of me to play around with.
                                                                            -D.
                                                                            ICQ: 202-96-31

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                                                                              • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                                                www.TastyDollars.com
                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                • 6797
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                http://www.mayorsmoney.com/
                                                                                http://www.score-group.com/
                                                                                http://www.evilgneiuscash.com/
                                                                                http://www.dukedollars.com/

                                                                                I haven't checked everyone and as I do have updated - corrected them. Thus far, these 4 programs do not have any logins from that IP.

                                                                                This is a short list of the SEVERAL that use the NATS built in security features that protect your members, webmasters, and admin data.

                                                                                NATS has the security features already - question is which sponsors are using them?
                                                                                Add TastyDollars to that list.

                                                                                We had 1 login from that NATS admin account and the date matched on the day they were doing some work for us.

                                                                                We have also deleted that account just to extra carefull.

                                                                                Ray

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                                                                                  • Karupted Charles
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                    • 1662
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    I wonder if anyone tried to warn people a long time ago that they had serious security issues but was bashed by all the guys John bought drinks for.
                                                                                    TPF 2010 "They are eating our sausages!"

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                                                                                      • fuzebox
                                                                                        making it rain
                                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                                        • 22363
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                                                                        oh jesus christ does NATS really store the affiliate passwords in plain text for an admin access user to view? Tell me that's not true. Please, really. Can anyone confirm?

                                                                                        Brad
                                                                                        Yes, this is true. Both affiliate (including admin users who are stored as affiliates) and members (surfer joins) are stored in plaintext.

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                                                                                          • borked
                                                                                            Totally Borked
                                                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                                                            • 6284
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                            Yes, this is true. Both affiliate (including admin users who are stored as affiliates) and members (surfer joins) are stored in plaintext.
                                                                                            PURE FUD.

                                                                                            For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com
                                                                                            (consider figuring out the email as test #1)


                                                                                            All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202

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                                                                                              • Thomas N
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                                                • 973
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                QuickBuck has not been compromised in any way.

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                                                                                                  • ARS Bryan
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Dec 2005
                                                                                                    • 875
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                                                                    NATS haters unite..lol. TMM is awesome and unliKe most other companies in the industry are on the problems before or as they happen. Its funny you see the shady programs come in here to bash nats when they are the most suspect. Your stats scare the shit out of me....0/10ooo+.

                                                                                                    DO NOT TRUST PROGRAMS THAT HAVE CUSTOM BACKENDS. THEY ARE THE ONES TO WATCH FOR.
                                                                                                    You're a fucking moron
                                                                                                    ///ARS - Adult Revenue Service


                                                                                                    ICQ me 25120534

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                                                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                                                        • 28609
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Ray@TastyDollars
                                                                                                        Add TastyDollars to that list.

                                                                                                        We had 1 login from that NATS admin account and the date matched on the day they were doing some work for us.

                                                                                                        We have also deleted that account just to extra carefull.

                                                                                                        Ray
                                                                                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                          • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                            ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                                                                            • 28609
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                            Aye, I know this.. When the NATS systems are IP locked, nobody but the allowed IP's can access the backend.
                                                                                                            then again , if the head programmer at nats has his password compromised its likely they "could" use nats ip to connect and get the info the same way.
                                                                                                            hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                • 30307
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Karupted Charles
                                                                                                                I wonder if anyone tried to warn people a long time ago that they had serious security issues but was bashed by all the guys John bought drinks for.

                                                                                                                Raises hand.

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                                                                                                                  • WarChild
                                                                                                                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                    • 17263
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                    Raises hand.
                                                                                                                    You're just an idiot that nobody takes serious. You didn't warn anybody of anything. You don't have nor have you ever had any insider information about nats or anything else. Again, you're just a broke tool.
                                                                                                                    .

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                                                                                                                      • notoldschool
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                        • 5687
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by ARS Bryan
                                                                                                                        You're a fucking moron
                                                                                                                        You're a fucking dick. Thanks for the compliment.
                                                                                                                        No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                                                                                        -- Learned Hand

                                                                                                                        http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                                                                                                          • Rico
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                            • 1271
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            As mentioned in this thread previously by Uno, our 'version' of nats, has been 'customized' to such extent, we no longer recieve updates from NATS(TMM). This also means we have been taking measures to prevent issues such as this one, via additional security measures that were taken almost 2 years ago.

                                                                                                                            In a nutshell: Our information is safe.

                                                                                                                            This is a constant struggle for all of us and we're doing our best to make sure our systems and sites are as safe as they can be, on a continuous basis.

                                                                                                                            I am sorry to see others have problems, but it is definately not the case for us.

                                                                                                                            °°panchodog.com°°
                                                                                                                            °°100+ paysites!!°°
                                                                                                                            °°katiefey°°°felicityfey°°
                                                                                                                            °°kristinafey°°°& Andi Pink!°°

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                                                                                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                • 30307
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                                                                You're just an idiot that nobody takes serious. You didn't warn anybody of anything. You don't have nor have you ever had any insider information about nats or anything else. Again, you're just a broke tool.
                                                                                                                                Search in the history dumb bitch.
                                                                                                                                I have long stood against NATS/Porngraph for quite some time.

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                                                                                                                                  • Nysus
                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                    • 7817
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by rico-panchodog
                                                                                                                                    As mentioned in this thread previously by Uno, our 'version' of nats, has been 'customized' to such extent, we no longer recieve updates from NATS(TMM). This also means we have been taking measures to prevent issues such as this one, via additional security measures that were taken almost 2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                    In a nutshell: Our information is safe.

                                                                                                                                    This is a constant struggle for all of us and we're doing our best to make sure our systems and sites are as safe as they can be, on a continuous basis.

                                                                                                                                    I am sorry to see others have problems, but it is definately not the case for us.
                                                                                                                                    So technically you're not really "with NATS" then ...
                                                                                                                                    What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                                                                                                                                    Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                                                                                                                                    See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                                                                                                                                      • Quickdraw
                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                        • 1717
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by SwordFish
                                                                                                                                        QuickBuck has not been compromised in any way.
                                                                                                                                        maybe so, but they certainly don't fail when it comes to compromising users PC's, or allowing 'rogue' affiliates to steal content from other programs and promote Quickbuck join pages, or using other malware to pop your join pages over other programs join pages.

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                                                                                                                                          • jcsike
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2006
                                                                                                                                            • 689
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            smokey, let me ask you this, wouldnt there inherently be another backdoor that nats uses to get into the server to report back to nats what plan level the account is at for billing purposes?

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                                                                                                                                              • Rico
                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 1271
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Nysus
                                                                                                                                                So technically you're not really "with NATS" then ...
                                                                                                                                                That is correct. But it 'still' is their software, so i prefered to clarify.

                                                                                                                                                °°panchodog.com°°
                                                                                                                                                °°100+ paysites!!°°
                                                                                                                                                °°katiefey°°°felicityfey°°
                                                                                                                                                °°kristinafey°°°& Andi Pink!°°

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                                                                                                                                                  • Trixxxia
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                    • 5600
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by rico-panchodog
                                                                                                                                                    That is correct. But it 'still' is their software, so i prefered to clarify.
                                                                                                                                                    Rico - if you have a moment, could you hit me up please?

                                                                                                                                                    Thanks

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                                                                                                                                                      • dial
                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                        • 1225
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear


                                                                                                                                                        like nastydollars and bangbros , industry leaders ?
                                                                                                                                                        more like industry cheaters

                                                                                                                                                        aren't these the same guys that only show 1 out of every 100 hits that end up in their system?

                                                                                                                                                        yeah, you may have 1:100 ratios, but they are only counting 10% of your traffic, hahaha
                                                                                                                                                        boom chicka wah wah

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                                                                                                                                                          • dial
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                            • 1225
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                                            Raises hand.
                                                                                                                                                            when I was a drug dealer my sister in law kept telling me for 3 years that I would eventually get busted

                                                                                                                                                            sure enough, after drug dealing for 3 years I got busted

                                                                                                                                                            does that make her right? lol
                                                                                                                                                            boom chicka wah wah

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                                                                                                                                                              • DamageX
                                                                                                                                                                Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 14293
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                                                                                                                                NATS haters unite..lol. TMM is awesome and unliKe most other companies in the industry are on the problems before or as they happen. Its funny you see the shady programs come in here to bash nats when they are the most suspect. Your stats scare the shit out of me....0/10ooo+.

                                                                                                                                                                DO NOT TRUST PROGRAMS THAT HAVE CUSTOM BACKENDS. THEY ARE THE ONES TO WATCH FOR.
                                                                                                                                                                Kind sir, would you be interested in some swampland and a couple of bridges I have for sale?
                                                                                                                                                                Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                                                                                                If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                                                                                                  • notoldschool
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                                    • 5687
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                                                                                                    Kind sir, would you be interested in some swampland and a couple of bridges I have for sale?
                                                                                                                                                                    Sure at the same time I grab some of that traffic adept traffic.
                                                                                                                                                                    No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                                                                                                                                    -- Learned Hand

                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                                                                                                                                                      • DamageX
                                                                                                                                                                        Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                        • 14293
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                                                                                                                                        Sure at the same time I grab some of that traffic adept traffic.
                                                                                                                                                                        Given how gullible you are, you probably wouldn't know what to do with it anyway.
                                                                                                                                                                        Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                                                                                                        If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                                                                                                          • notoldschool
                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                                            • 5687
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                                                                                                            Given how gullible you are, you probably wouldn't know what to do with it anyway.
                                                                                                                                                                            and could you please explain the the world what exactly i am gullible about?
                                                                                                                                                                            If you got some dirty secret about how Ron Paul voted a certain way, did cocaine in college, cheated on two wives, voted for the war, voted for bigger goverment, voted for preemptive invasions of nations that have no chance of hurting us, PLEASE FILL ME IN.

                                                                                                                                                                            ps. please provide facts with your assumptions.
                                                                                                                                                                            No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                                                                                                                                            -- Learned Hand

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                                                                                                                                                                              • iMind
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Nov 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                • 937
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by dial
                                                                                                                                                                                when I was a drug dealer my sister in law kept telling me for 3 years that I would eventually get busted

                                                                                                                                                                                sure enough, after drug dealing for 3 years I got busted

                                                                                                                                                                                does that make her right? lol
                                                                                                                                                                                yes it does.
                                                                                                                                                                                You should also stop dippin' into your supply

                                                                                                                                                                                Aliens a moron, but even a broken clocks right 2 times a day.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 28609
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by dial
                                                                                                                                                                                    more like industry cheaters

                                                                                                                                                                                    aren't these the same guys that only show 1 out of every 100 hits that end up in their system?

                                                                                                                                                                                    yeah, you may have 1:100 ratios, but they are only counting 10% of your traffic, hahaha
                                                                                                                                                                                    no you have the wrong sponsor, nastydollars and bangbros have pretty close stats , your thinking of sponsors like realitycash .
                                                                                                                                                                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • KrisKross
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 5025
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by dial
                                                                                                                                                                                        more like industry cheaters

                                                                                                                                                                                        aren't these the same guys that only show 1 out of every 100 hits that end up in their system?

                                                                                                                                                                                        yeah, you may have 1:100 ratios, but they are only counting 10% of your traffic, hahaha
                                                                                                                                                                                        Math obviously isn't your forte.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • dial
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 1225
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                                                            no you have the wrong sponsor, nastydollars and bangbros have pretty close stats , your thinking of sponsors like realitycash .
                                                                                                                                                                                            at least realitycash says they count "qualified hits" or whatever

                                                                                                                                                                                            bangbros just doesn't count hits...AT ALL

                                                                                                                                                                                            I sent them at least 10,000 hits a while back and saw maybe 100-200 in their admin

                                                                                                                                                                                            i believe there were a few more affiliates that posted on gfy about the same problem....they sent a bunch of hits and maybe saw 10-20% showed up in the admin

                                                                                                                                                                                            the fact is, the adult industry STINKS to high heaven these days, cheaters and scammers have run wild for years now, and that seems to be all that is left

                                                                                                                                                                                            hell, even a few of the largest program owners have been publicly OUTED for scamming or cheating affiliates, and they still get high fives!!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                            boom chicka wah wah

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • dial
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 1225
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by KrisKross
                                                                                                                                                                                                Math obviously isn't your forte.
                                                                                                                                                                                                you got that right, I suck at math, completely

                                                                                                                                                                                                but if you missed the point then intelligence isn't your forte
                                                                                                                                                                                                boom chicka wah wah

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 13827
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by pornopete
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I thought NATS was supposed to be an inpentrable fortress enabling affiliates to feel confident that the program owners aren't cheating them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Lets not forget the thread last year that revealed the fact that NATs has a built in feature that allows program owners to approve/disapprove an affiliates sale.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Everything is hackable, every program, every server, every host, at some point, some software, something can have an sql, apache, unix, nats, email from - ect related.. Very common.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    NATS has never had a way to approve/disapprove an affiliates sale, ever. Please get your facts straight before posting such slander.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                                                                                                                                                                    It's all disambiguation

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                                                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 28609
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by dial
                                                                                                                                                                                                        at least realitycash says they count "qualified hits" or whatever
                                                                                                                                                                                                        so does bangbros
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by dial
                                                                                                                                                                                                        bangbros just doesn't count hits...AT ALL

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I sent them at least 10,000 hits a while back and saw maybe 100-200 in their admin

                                                                                                                                                                                                        i believe there were a few more affiliates that posted on gfy about the same problem....they sent a bunch of hits and maybe saw 10-20% showed up in the admin
                                                                                                                                                                                                        i don't disagree there , i have noticed similar things with bangbros but there are lots of other factors such as a qualified hit may be a "unique" ip not a "unique" hit for your ref code

                                                                                                                                                                                                        nastydollars counts hits perfect

                                                                                                                                                                                                        but hey you are arguing a moot point , i think most webmasters have noticed nats sponsors don't convert as well whatever the stats say. , all my top sponsors use custom backends.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by dial

                                                                                                                                                                                                        the fact is, the adult industry STINKS to high heaven these days, cheaters and scammers have run wild for years now, and that seems to be all that is left

                                                                                                                                                                                                        hell, even a few of the largest program owners have been publicly OUTED for scamming or cheating affiliates, and they still get high fives!!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                        can't argue with that for the most part
                                                                                                                                                                                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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