- An entire continent in complete break down and failure.
- War, famine, disease, short life spans, low literacy, massive infact mortality rate.
- Total contributions to society by way of great works of art, engineering or science: 0
- An entire continent in complete break down and failure.
- War, famine, disease, short life spans, low literacy, massive infact mortality rate.
- Total contributions to society by way of great works of art, engineering or science: 0
Hint:
i hope you dont really believe that because it's totally false.
besides the simple fact africans basically built america from the ground up.. there wouldnt be half the shit there is in america if we hadnt relied on african slaves to do the hard work for us..
i hope you dont really believe that because it's totally false.
besides the simple fact africans basically built america from the ground up.. there wouldnt be half the shit there is in america if we hadnt relied on african slaves to do the hard work for us..
Was Canada also built by African slaves?
I actually do believe that. Africa as a continent is a total failure. I don't attribute that to race though, I attribute that to culture. Take a black man away from black culture and he'll be every bit as successful as anybody else.
i hope you dont really believe that because it's totally false.
besides the simple fact africans basically built america from the ground up.. there wouldnt be half the shit there is in america if we hadnt relied on african slaves to do the hard work for us..
Now that is the biggest load of rubbish propaganda there has ever been spread. Did they also build basically every European nation, Canada, Australia? Their contribution to America is greatly overrated, even if we accept how morally wrong it was to enslave them it still doesn't change that fact. They don't have a social structure that can even be called mediocre, they are are sadly a joke in comparison to the rest of the world. What would of happened if you dumped those Africans in a nation with as much potential as the USA without the European Governance and skill? Well look at Zimbabwe for what happens even if they inherit such a nation. Fact is, Europeans could of built the USA to what it is today regardless of whether they had African slaves or not (Canada, Australia, etc are evidence of this). But the same can't be said in reverse.
Many Asians have quiate admirable cultures. Look at the Japanese and Chinese for instance. They value education, hard work, family relationships and basically success. When I see young Chinese kids in Canada dressed like little hip hop thugs it makes me laugh. Why would anyone coming from a culture of success want to emulate a culture of complete failure? Amazing.
- An entire continent in complete break down and failure.
- War, famine, disease, short life spans, low literacy, massive infact mortality rate.
- Total contributions to society by way of great works of art, engineering or science: 0
you need to read a book called "guns, germs and steel." it basically describes how europe became so much more advanced than the rest of the world because of it's geography, allowing the flow of agriculture and ideas.
most of africa's current problems are due to western interventionism... for example, did you know that nigeria has the world's 6th largest oil supplies - so why does most of the population live in abject poverty? the west keeps africa under an iron yoke and rapes her for her resources.
When I went to school you could count on one hand the visible minorities.Now it's the complete opposite.the Caucasians are the minority.
What pisses me off the most is the fact these visible minorities take advantage of our lame justice system and will kill you if you look at them wrong knowing they will be out in 5 years with good behavior.generalization but the stats prove it
you need to read a book called "guns, germs and steel." it basically describes how europe became so much more advanced than the rest of the world because of it's geography, allowing the flow of agriculture and ideas.
most of africa's current problems are due to western interventionism... for example, did you know that nigeria has the world's 6th largest oil supplies - so why does most of the population live in abject poverty? the west keeps africa under an iron yoke and rapes her for her resources.
Another lie. Most of Africa's problems are not the result of western interventionism, they are a result of tribalism. Europe went through the same wars between nations / racial sub-classes, etc hundreds of years ago, and Africa is still going through them today. Trying to blame that on Europeans is a ridiculous claim.
Oh and as for Nigeria? That's the Wests fault? More like it is their Government's fault for being so corrupt and inept. Hell, they wouldn't even register as an oil producer is Western companies didn't bring in the expertise to make it happen. Is it our fault their incapable leaders couldn't manage being given basically a free ticket in life correctly? That's like saying it is Germany's fault because some German started a better company that I didn't have the skill to compete with.
Another lie. Most of Africa's problems are not the result of western interventionism, they are a result of tribalism. Europe went through the same wars between nations / racial sub-classes, etc hundreds of years ago, and Africa is still going through them today. Trying to blame that on Europeans is a ridiculous claim.
um... an empowered africa is completely contrary to western corporate interests in the region... so africa stays downtrodden. how is that difficult for you to understand?
take sudan for example... why is darfur genocide not an issue for the western world, whereas iraqi "insurgency" is? because sudan's oil is already comfortably in the west's pocket.
africa is going to be the big loser in the coming resource wars...
Oh and as for Nigeria? That's the Wests fault? More like it is their Government's fault for being so corrupt and inept. Hell, they wouldn't even register as an oil producer is Western companies didn't bring in the expertise to make it happen. Is it our fault their incapable leaders couldn't manage being given basically a free ticket in life correctly? That's like saying it is Germany's fault because some German started a better company that I didn't have the skill to compete with.
western oil companies prop up the corrupt government with money and arms in order to maintain control via the thug caste. there are numerous documentaries on the subject...
um... an empowered africa is completely contrary to western corporate interests in the region... so africa stays downtrodden. how is that difficult for you to understand?
take sudan for example... why is darfur genocide not an issue for the western world, whereas iraqi "insurgency" is? because sudan's oil is already comfortably in the west's pocket.
africa is going to be the big loser in the coming resource wars...
Okay so surely before colonialism there must be some examples of great works of art, architecture or science from Africa, right? I can't think of any thing off the top of my head though. Can you tell us a little about the cultural contributions that Africa has made to man kind?
Perhaps arguable the Malinese Empire, however that's more like an example of good organization given they didn't leave anything notable behind. I think that the success of the Malinese Empire can be more attributed to Islam, however.
um... an empowered africa is completely contrary to western corporate interests in the region... so africa stays downtrodden. how is that difficult for you to understand?
take sudan for example... why is darfur genocide not an issue for the western world, whereas iraqi "insurgency" is? because sudan's oil is already comfortably in the west's pocket.
africa is going to be the big loser in the coming resource wars...
It's difficult for me to understand because there it is a ridiculous assertion you make with no evidence. Explain to me how China, India, Brazil, etc can all rise from relatively inept nations in the past few decades to booming economies yet Africa and Africans (yet again apparently) are still being kept down by the man? I suppose Western corporations voted in Robert Mugabe right? Or more recently the rapist, corrupt, AIDs ignorant, bankrupt Jacob Zuma in South Africa correct?
Look how difficult it has been for the entire US military to force a Government upon the people in Iraq, and question the sensibility of the claim that Western corporations have somehow managed to succeed in putting in corrupt and inept Governments in Africa. They can name their tribal factions whatever they like, the Fighters for Freedom, The Liberation Movement, whatever, it still doesn't change the fact that whoever gain power in whatever African nation is ultimately responsible for whether or not good governance results in that nation.
You can't claim the western nations shouldn't be interventionist powers but than suggest that we should limit the ability for western corporations from trading with governments we know are incapable of running a nation. What is it? And regardless of that, anyone with a brain can figure out who Robert Mugabe and co have mortgaged their mines off to - and it isn't the West - look East.
read that book... it demonstrates that the reason for western civilization being more advanced is the temperate climate and a geography which encourages east-west flow. africa is conversely an extremely harsh environment where much more of humanity's time is spent procuring basic resources, and thus time on a societal level couldn't be spent on developing said society beyond much more than the tribal or nomadic level. those people were just unlucky enough to be born there in africa rather than in resource-rich europe... western civilization is a product of environment rather than any inherent superiority in people with less melanin in their skin... despite what the racists would like to believe.
read that book... it demonstrates that the reason for western civilization being more advanced is the temperate climate and a geography which encourages east-west flow. africa is conversely an extremely harsh environment where much more of humanity's time is spent procuring basic resources, and thus time on a societal level couldn't be spent on developing said society beyond much more than the tribal or nomadic level. those people were just unlucky enough to be born there in africa rather than in resource-rich europe... western civilization is a product of environment rather than any inherent superiority in people with less melanin in their skin... despite what the racists would like to believe.
Again it's got nothing to do with the race and everything to do with the culture. Africans are keeping Africa down because their culture is fucked up, not because their skin is dark.
Christ, uneducated blacks are basically practicing tribalism in American cities and the youth celebrate it as hip hop culture.
if you want more info about corporate imperialism in africa i suggest you watch the documentary "empire in africa," it won best doco at cannes a few years ago...
read that book... it demonstrates that the reason for western civilization being more advanced is the temperate climate and a geography which encourages east-west flow. africa is conversely an extremely harsh environment where much more of humanity's time is spent procuring basic resources, and thus time on a societal level couldn't be spent on developing said society beyond much more than the tribal or nomadic level. those people were just unlucky enough to be born there in africa rather than in resource-rich europe... western civilization is a product of environment rather than any inherent superiority in people with less melanin in their skin... despite what the racists would like to believe.
I am certainly of the same belief as war child, it has everything to do with the culture, but resource rich Europe? Common now, in comparison to Africa Europe is hardly resource rich. And plus, if you want to talk about harsh climates, maybe you might want to head to the beautifully successful nations of Norway, Finland, or even the relatively and increasingly successful Russia.
Certainly the flow of information is what helped European nations rise up, after all compare the Germanic tribes to Rome in its day, were the Germans isolated they might very well of remained that way. But the fact is their culture evolved, their society evolved and over time they became a success in their own right - and obviously still are today. The fact is African culture, tradition, tribalism has yet to really undertake such a significant evolution, and that's why they are still stuck in the mess they are today - not because of Western intervention as you originally claimed.
i hope you dont really believe that because it's totally false.
besides the simple fact africans basically built america from the ground up.. there wouldnt be half the shit there is in america if we hadnt relied on african slaves to do the hard work for us..
The last time I checked they ended their service to America in 1865. And the Chinese build the West coast.
Now that is the biggest load of rubbish propaganda there has ever been spread.
tell us what part you disagree with ?
Originally posted by Chief
Did they also build basically every European nation, Canada, Australia?
if they did i wouldnt have said "america" i would have said "European nation, Canada, Australia"
but i didnt.
Originally posted by Chief
Their contribution to America is greatly overrated
so you say . history says otherwise
Originally posted by Chief
They don't have a social structure that can even be called mediocre
maybe you don't understand what a social structure is
Originally posted by Chief
, they are are sadly a joke in comparison to the rest of the world.
you must have a strange sense of humour
true they likely are far behind other countries as far as development , but that will happen if people take you as slaves during the years of great human advancement
Originally posted by Chief
Europeans could of built the USA to what it is today regardless of whether they had African slaves or not
so you say i say they couldnt . since we can't go back in time and test i will have to say we disagree
Originally posted by Chief
(Canada, Australia, etc are evidence of this). .
hardly very good evidence if you know your history.
- An entire continent in complete break down and failure.
- War, famine, disease, short life spans, low literacy, massive infact mortality rate.
- Total contributions to society by way of great works of art, engineering or science: 0
Hint:
by the time Africa had Universities there was nothing but a few buffalo turds in America
who built the pyramids in Egypt, GW Bush?
the first heart transplant in the World was done by a white South African
some of the greatest music in the World comes from Africa
I'd also like to remind the western apologists that only 60 years ago a large chunk of europe was quite supportive of the wholesale slaughter of the jewish population.
by the time Africa had Universities there was nothing but a few buffalo turds in America
who built the pyramids in Egypt, GW Bush?
the first heart transplant in the World was done by a white South African
some of the greatest music in the World comes from Africa
Well yes Egypt is kind of a special case. Arguably though it's not really representitive of Africa as a whole. Most of the Egyptian guys I know would say they are not African.
The culture in Egypt is Islamic not tribal, and that explains a lot right there.
The Malinese Empire was once vast and great too, but again mostly because of Islam.
i would bet most europeans had no idea "wholesale slaughter" was taking place. I will ask my grandfather tomorrow for you..
Actually it's pretty well documented that the UK government was anti-jew at the highest levels, and didn't get involved until it became obvious that Hitler's expansionism was going to be a threat. WW2 was about empire, saving the jews was just the added bonus. Jews have historically been widely despised because of the whole money lending thing. Both Churchill and especially Lloyd George wrote anti-semitic articles... Stalin was profoundly anti-jewish too.
Hulon Mitchell, a.k.a. Yahweh Ben Yahweh (20+), Florida
Lorenzo Fayne (5 children), East St. Louis, IL
Henry Louis Wallace (9), Charlotte, NC
Reginald and Jonathan Carr (5), Wichita, KS
John Allen Muhammad (a.k.a. John Allen Williams) and John Lee Malvo, (Suspected in 13 to 19 and rising fast), Maryland; Virginia; Montgomery, AL; Baton Rouge, LA; Tacoma, WA; Georgia; Tucson, AZ
Torey Miller (2 homicides, one of which was a freeway drive-by, and the attempted ambush-murder of one St. Louis City police officer), St. Louis, MO.
Derrick Todd Lee, (5 women), southern Louisiana
Paul Durousseau, (6, two of which were pregnant women), Jacksonville, FL; Georgia.
Troy Sampson (3), Las Vegas
Edward James (3), Las Vegas (This and the previous Las Vegas worthie were both "thrill" serial killers, who brutally murdered innocent and unsuspecting white people they never even met -- EPH)
Eddie Lee Mosley (25 to 30 women), south Florida
Henry Lee Jones (4+), south Florida; Bartlett, TN
Richard "Babyface" Jameswhite (15), New York; Georgia.
Donald E. Younge, Jr., (4), East St. Louis, IL; Salt Lake City, UT.
Lorenzo J. Gilyard (12 women), Kansas City, MO. (May be Missouri's worst serial killer ever, according to the Kansas City Star.)
Michael Vernon (7), Bronx, NY. Killed at least seven people - 5 in a shoe store for not having his sneaker size and 1 pizza delivery person and 1 gypsy cab driver.
Lamon J. McKoy (2, maybe more). Geneva, NY.
Jake ( ?) Bird, Tacoma, WA. He offed two in Tacoma in the 1940s and admitted to murdering many others nationwide.
Actually it's pretty well documented that the UK government was anti-jew at the highest levels, and didn't get involved until it became obvious that Hitler's expansionism was going to be a threat. WW2 was about empire, saving the jews was just the added bonus. Jews have historically been widely despised because of the whole money lending thing. Both Churchill and especially Lloyd George wrote anti-semitic articles... Stalin was profoundly anti-jewish too.
because the Christians decided it was a sin to loan money for interest... so.... the jews became the bankers ... and .... every time the royals ran up to much debt in wars with each other, they would kill off the jews they owed money too. -bmb
I am certainly of the same belief as war child, it has everything to do with the culture, but resource rich Europe? Common now, in comparison to Africa Europe is hardly resource rich. And plus, if you want to talk about harsh climates, maybe you might want to head to the beautifully successful nations of Norway, Finland, or even the relatively and increasingly successful Russia.
Certainly the flow of information is what helped European nations rise up, after all compare the Germanic tribes to Rome in its day, were the Germans isolated they might very well of remained that way. But the fact is their culture evolved, their society evolved and over time they became a success in their own right - and obviously still are today. The fact is African culture, tradition, tribalism has yet to really undertake such a significant evolution, and that's why they are still stuck in the mess they are today - not because of Western intervention as you originally claimed.
read, black redneck, white liberal: by t sowell. very interesting look at black culture.
Amerindians, Black Africans and Gypsies are the most hopeless bunch of the fucking human world. Had the world remained as primitive as it once was, they would all be dead by now, massacred by Asians, Arabs, Europeans.
Survival of the fittest, Darwinism, natural selection.
Amerindians, Black Africans and Gypsies are the most hopeless bunch of the fucking human world. Had the world remained as primitive as it once was, they would all be dead by now, massacred by Asians, Arabs, Europeans.
Survival of the fittest, Darwinism, natural selection.
What you describe is survival of the most aggressive, not the 'fittest'.
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