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  • Brother Bilo
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    • Jun 2007
    • 4193

    #1

    Lakota Tribe Annexed From the US

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317548,00.html

    I can appreciate their position feeling slighted by the government, but I don't think this is the best move for their people. The misery on the reservations is so far gone, how are they going to survive without the government assitance they used to get? Unemployement is out of control, how is that going to change now that they've cut their ties from the rest of the US?

    Any thoughts?
  • G-Rotica
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    • Aug 2005
    • 4258

    #2
    Maybe they hope to boost their econmy by starting a war.

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    • StuartD
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      • Jul 2002
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      #3
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      • Gerco
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        • Nov 2005
        • 2052

        #4
        Interesting' move.
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        • Iron Fist
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          • Dec 2006
          • 23400

          #5
          Well at least they have plenty of cough medicine.
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          • ThreeXes
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2006
            • 301

            #6
            I admire them and this bold move. How long can the native people stand to be fucked over by the US govt? This should get them and their plight the attention needed for correction!

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            • Sosa
              In Tushy Land
              • Oct 2002
              • 40149

              #7
              lol russel means. That guy has tried so much shit around here. We are about 30 min south of the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation and see all sorts of crap. I have friends that teach at Pine Ridge High School, and hearing stories from up there about the kids, no wonder why nothing has gotten better when 80% of the parents could care less.

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              • Jim_Gunn
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                • Feb 2003
                • 5702

                #8
                You mis-used the word "annexed". Annexed means for example when a country takes over a province that belongs to another country or is independent and adds it to the larger country or empire. I think that you mean that the Lakota seceded from the US, ie they want to seperate themselves from the US.
                Last edited by Jim_Gunn; 12-20-2007, 07:47 AM.

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                • Sosa
                  In Tushy Land
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 40149

                  #9
                  let em go on their own way. Watch how fast the schools goto shit, the hospitals die down. They are so highly government funded it isn't even funny. What about 80% of the others that stay at home waiting for the EBT card to get refunded so they can run to walmart and stock up on food. What will they do when they don't get that money from the gov?

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                  • Topher49er
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                    • Jun 2007
                    • 410

                    #10
                    does this mean that their agreements with the government on casino money are null and void?
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                    • ADL Colin
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                      • Feb 2001
                      • 11929

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sosa
                      What will they do when they don't get that money from the gov?
                      Sell tax-free tobacco and build a casino?


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                      • Sosa
                        In Tushy Land
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 40149

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ADL Colin
                        Sell tax-free tobacco and build a casino?
                        Well they already have a casino on both reservations around here.

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                        • L-Pink
                          working on my tan
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 39151

                          #13
                          Think they will fall for the small pox infested blankets trick again?

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                          • DaddyHalbucks
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                            • Feb 2004
                            • 18975

                            #14
                            Interesting. Is it legal for one party to withdraw "unilaterally?"

                            If it means an ends to federal funding, it might not be so bad. The whole idea of the taxpayers forever supporting Indians seems wrong.
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                            • Sosa
                              In Tushy Land
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 40149

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                              Interesting. Is it legal for one party to withdraw "unilaterally?"

                              If it means an ends to federal funding, it might not be so bad. The whole idea of the taxpayers forever supporting Indians seems wrong.
                              If you haven't happened to drive around a reservation like the Lakota are living on, you have no idea whats really going on. They have a ton of land, but life so poor because they sit their aiding off the government. They feel the government owes them everything. Now when I say that, I don't mean to talk about everyone in general there, but 80% of them are like that.

                              It is a big drug haven, with the kids starting young bring drug runners and selling it at school etc. The natives really don't seem to mind though, and the "White" teachers have to stay away from it all or else they could lose their job etc.

                              Bottom line is they are living poor and expecting the government to pay everything and give them more money every year rather then going out and trying to make their lives better. I know some very very nice Natives who are doing farely well, and it is awesome to see. But then they have the 80% that everyone like myself tends to talk about more often.

                              It would be nice to see them not live in poverty, I don't want to see anyone living like that. But it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon, the way things are going. Atleast on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.

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                              • Brother Bilo
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                                • Jun 2007
                                • 4193

                                #16
                                I wonder what their policies will be on US citizens visiting their casinos. If they make it too much of a pain in the ass to visit their "country", wouldn't that effect the money they would even make off the casino?

                                I hope that this works for them, but I really don't expect this to go very far.

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                                • WarChild
                                  Let slip the dogs of war.
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 17263

                                  #17
                                  Just send the millitary in to conquer them again. It's simple, Simon.
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                                  • Wiseman
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                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 2990

                                    #18
                                    I want to be part of there tribe. Where do I sign up?
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                                    • Sosa
                                      In Tushy Land
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 40149

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Wiseman
                                      I want to be part of there tribe. Where do I sign up?
                                      Turn in your american citizen ship and they will welcome you lol Anyone ready to setup a Native American porno site live from the rez? Lets see how they would welcome that.

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                                      • munki
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                                        • Dec 2004
                                        • 13393

                                        #20
                                        Bold move...

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                                        • Nikki_Licks
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                                          • May 2005
                                          • 6323

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Sosa
                                          Turn in your american citizen ship and they will welcome you lol Anyone ready to setup a Native American porno site live from the rez? Lets see how they would welcome that.
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                                          • Brother Bilo
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                                            • Jun 2007
                                            • 4193

                                            #22
                                            Renounce my citizenship to live on a dirt poor res with a bunch of drugged out, depressed and unemployed people? I think I'll stick with the US on this one.

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                                            • L-Pink
                                              working on my tan
                                              • Mar 2005
                                              • 39151

                                              #23
                                              Most "wealth" that the average person acquires is a result of real estate transactions, property values. Indians can't buy/sell their land. Large chunks of cash are there fore nonexistent. Nothing really appreciates in value either ...

                                              Banks don't loan on property that can't be sold or doesn't appreciate. They really are in a fucked up situation unless oil/gas is found or a large population base is close for possible casino revenue.

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                                              • Brother Bilo
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                                                • Jun 2007
                                                • 4193

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                Most "wealth" that the average person acquires is a result of real estate transactions, property values. Indians can't buy/sell their land. Large chunks of cash are there fore nonexistent. Nothing really appreciates in value either ...

                                                Banks don't loan on property that can't be sold or doesn't appreciate. They really are in a fucked up situation unless oil/gas is found or a large population base is close for possible casino revenue.

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                                                I think they are just all around fucked on this one. How much business do you think their casinos will lose, considering they are smack in the middle of hardcore red states? Midwest don't take kindly to succeeders.

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                                                • 2012
                                                  So Fucking What
                                                  • Jul 2006
                                                  • 17189

                                                  #25
                                                  The new country would issue its own passports and driving licences, and living there would be tax-free - provided residents renounce their U.S. citizenship
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                                                  • L-Pink
                                                    working on my tan
                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                    • 39151

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Brother Bilo
                                                    I think they are just all around fucked on this one. How much business do you think their casinos will lose, considering they are smack in the middle of hardcore red states? Midwest don't take kindly to succeeders.
                                                    It will be a wild-west cesspool.

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                                                    • sortie
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2007
                                                      • 7771

                                                      #27
                                                      Rich tycoons with a little bit of "tax abatement" might just move in and make that one small rich ass country.

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                                                      • baddog
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                        • 107089

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Brother Bilo
                                                        http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317548,00.html

                                                        I can appreciate their position feeling slighted by the government, but I don't think this is the best move for their people. The misery on the reservations is so far gone, how are they going to survive without the government assitance they used to get? Unemployement is out of control, how is that going to change now that they've cut their ties from the rest of the US?

                                                        Any thoughts?
                                                        I think you need to look up "annexed."

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                                                        • Grapesoda
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 46234

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Brother Bilo
                                                          http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317548,00.html

                                                          I can appreciate their position feeling slighted by the government, but I don't think this is the best move for their people. The misery on the reservations is so far gone, how are they going to survive without the government assitance they used to get? Unemployement is out of control, how is that going to change now that they've cut their ties from the rest of the US?

                                                          Any thoughts?
                                                          didn't work out to well for the southern states when they tried it so what's next? Russian missile bases in Nebraska? Hamas training camps in Wyoming? it's not going to be a smooth transition. does the US pull their gambling? -bmb

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                                                          • Brother Bilo
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jun 2007
                                                            • 4193

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                            I think you need to look up "annexed."
                                                            Already brought up, thanks. I am well aware of what annexed means now.

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                                                            • pornguy
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                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 62910

                                                              #31
                                                              they will build casinos and make beer, wine and liquor without worrying about the US getting their hands on it. They will be just fine, providing they have a few people that know what they are doing.
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