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Voting for the lesser of two evils? What's it like to vote for evil?

10-30-2012, 06:25 AM

Obama supporters hate his policies if they are coming from the other side....

...And Romney will do the same things.

But People just keep voting for the two parties.... blindly.

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10-30-2012, 06:28 AM

I never knew that stupid = evil.

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10-30-2012, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by sperbonzo

But People just keep voting for the two parties.... blindly.

What's the alternative?

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10-30-2012, 06:33 AM

Originally posted by CDSmith

What's the alternative?

Stop listening to those that say voting for a third party is "throwing away your vote".

If a third party can get 5% of the popular vote on a general election, then on the next election they will have access to equal TV time, equal debate access and the federal campaign funds that the two parties get. THEN you will start to see the parties REALLY having to listen to the people, since there will be a legitimate third choice. (and hopefully a fourth, and a fifth, eventually)

Create a "free market" of parties that must actually compete for your vote, instead of just assuming it by saying "At least we aren't those other guys!"

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10-30-2012, 06:40 AM

I don't feel either candidate is evil. I think they both feel that they will do the best they can for the majority of the citizens.

The difference is philosophy and how it's implimented.

How it ends up will be determined by who wins and what is your current station in life. I won't be bad off if Obama wins but I think I will be better off if Romney wins,

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10-30-2012, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by sperbonzo

Obama supporters hate his policies if they are coming from the other side....

...And Romney will do the same things.

But People just keep voting for the two parties.... blindly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skw-0jv9kts&noredirect=1

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at least there is the few out there who are willing to look at the other possibility's. Hopefully in years to come the majority will do so as well.

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10-30-2012, 11:08 AM

We've always voted between the lesser of two evils.

I surely don't think that Obama is our savior. I think Obama was a no name Senator who was in the right place at the right time - Obama won because of the Republican economic disaster and because the US wasn't ready to elect a woman as President. At the same time, the Republican party didn't even try when it put up McCain. They knew they lost no matter what.

Now the best the Republican party has is Romney, Herman Cain, and that bat shit crazy woman? In the end we get Romney as the candidate with his 22% failure rate as a business man who become governor who left office in shame with a 37% approval rating.

Right now I am just hoping for the best with Obama and then I pray both parties can offer up something better than what we currently have.

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10-30-2012, 11:43 AM

I'd rather reelect Obama then the guy who wants to outlaw our biz and all you people in already decided states can vote for Gary Johnson. I'm all for more political parties having a voice, the two party system does not function with extreme partisanship

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10-30-2012, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by sperbonzo

Stop listening to those that say voting for a third party is "throwing away your vote".

If a third party can get 5% of the popular vote on a general election, then on the next election they will have access to equal TV time, equal debate access and the federal campaign funds that the two parties get. THEN you will start to see the parties REALLY having to listen to the people, since there will be a legitimate third choice. (and hopefully a fourth, and a fifth, eventually)

Create a "free market" of parties that must actually compete for your vote, instead of just assuming it by saying "At least we aren't those other guys!"

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i think most of us would agree with this but what if the third option is pretty shitty as well? do you vote him in just to get that 5%?

we have more than a two party system but there seems to be a big drop off after the top two. almost like it waters down the talent pool.

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10-30-2012, 12:12 PM

For an independent who hates both left and right wing politics, you sure do post 99% anti-left wing stuff don't you.

Vote Gary's Johnson.

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10-30-2012, 12:15 PM

Gary Johnson FTW, bruh.

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10-30-2012, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by PR_Tom

For an independent who hates both left and right wing politics, you sure do post 99% anti-left wing stuff don't you.

Vote Gary's Johnson.

Politics is much more complex than just "left and right". That canard has been drilled into us so much that we don't see the other directions that are involved.

When a Republican president gets into power, you will see me going after what they are doing when they screw up. Romney's opinions will only matter when he has the power to impliment them.

Right now BOTH parties are all gung ho about the NDAA, and other atrocities, and they both agree on the war mongering stuff.

As for domestic policy, I believe utterly in the Austrian school free market economy as the best way for everyone to benefit, and generally left wing politics is the most opposed to that. They tend to want to involve the government much more, when it comes to regulation and taxation, (it's a core of their beliefs), and I think that when you take away the peoples ability to freely create their own wealth, then you remove their ability to fight back against oppressive government, or even flee from it if need be.

On the other hands the Republicans have been just as bad over the last 15 years in terms of taxing and spending, increasing regulations on everything. Although they also want to control our personal choices, i.e "vices", I again see both parties moving full force with this disgusting "war on drugs", and interestingly, (and happily), the Republicans have done almost nothing on the Federal level to affect things like porn, dispite their horrible rhetoric on the subject. This, of course, could change at some point.

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10-30-2012, 01:20 PM

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10-30-2012, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Rochard

We've always voted between the lesser of two evils.

That's not true.

I voted for Clinton and did not consider him in any way to be the lesser of two evils.
I will admit that my votes for Bush in 2000 and 2004 were choices between the lesser of two evils.
I voted for Obama and was completely sincere in my vote (fell for his bullshit about "hope and change" hook, link, and sinker)

I'm voting for Johnson this time. And I feel very "clean" about my vote.

So no, it's not "always".

But this year if you are voting for Obama or Romney then "yes" you are voting for the lesser of two evils.

And for the idiots in this post..."lesser of two evils" is just a saying. It doesn't actually mean "EVIL".

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10-30-2012, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by sperbonzo

Stop listening to those that say voting for a third party is "throwing away your vote".

Thank you Michael.

IMO, voting for these 2 parties that have been selling out our country for 30+ years is indeed 'throwing away your vote'

Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.
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10-30-2012, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by DTK

Thank you Michael.

IMO, voting for these 2 parties that have been selling out our country for 30+ years is indeed 'throwing away your vote'

Its not just Selling out your country if you don't agree with the views of the "two parties" isn't it selling out what you believe in to vote for them? With all the other candidates out there your surely to find a party that fits in better with your own opinions.

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10-30-2012, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by CourtneyR_FFN

Its not just Selling out your country if you don't agree with the views of the "two parties" isn't it selling out what you believe in to vote for them? With all the other candidates out there your surely to find a party that fits in better with your own opinions.

I think i need to make my point more clear.

This isn't about ideas. It's about the dems & reps selling this country to the highest bidder, which is what they've been doing for a generation. They have no belief in the 'ideas' they spout. That's all just words intended to hook people into one party or another. You know, like a stage show.

They believe in getting paid, nothing more.

Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.
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10-30-2012, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by DTK

I think i need to make my point more clear.

This isn't about ideas. It's about the dems & reps selling this country to the highest bidder, which is what they've been doing for a generation. They have no belief in the 'ideas' they spout. That's all just words intended to hook people into one party or another. You know, like a stage show.

They believe in getting paid, nothing more.

i understand just saying my on the parties.

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10-30-2012, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by Robbie

That's not true.

I voted for Clinton and did not consider him in any way to be the lesser of two evils.
I will admit that my votes for Bush in 2000 and 2004 were choices between the lesser of two evils.
I voted for Obama and was completely sincere in my vote (fell for his bullshit about "hope and change" hook, link, and sinker)

I'm voting for Johnson this time. And I feel very "clean" about my vote.

So no, it's not "always".

But this year if you are voting for Obama or Romney then "yes" you are voting for the lesser of two evils.

And for the idiots in this post..."lesser of two evils" is just a saying. It doesn't actually mean "EVIL".

If you look at all candidates with a negative slant then why bother,stay home on election day. I have never looked at politics as the lesser of two evils. Hopefully I never will.
I don't donate my hard earned cash to a candidate because I have too. I do it because I want to.

So, even though we appreciate you pointing out the obvious about an old saying,not everyone looks at things from a negative perspective.

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10-30-2012, 03:31 PM

if you vote this year ;- don't come back here bitching when things get worse unless you're ready to blame yourself

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10-30-2012, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by sperbonzo

Stop listening to those that say voting for a third party is "throwing away your vote".

If a third party can get 5% of the popular vote on a general election, then on the next election they will have access to equal TV time, equal debate access and the federal campaign funds that the two parties get. THEN you will start to see the parties REALLY having to listen to the people, since there will be a legitimate third choice. (and hopefully a fourth, and a fifth, eventually)

Create a "free market" of parties that must actually compete for your vote, instead of just assuming it by saying "At least we aren't those other guys!"

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Is there a 3rd party in this particular election?

I get what you're saying, it's just wishful thinking is all. Until such time as a viable candidate & VP candidate run as independants and can carry enough political clout to be contenders there's not much hope of people voting for anything other than either of the two main parties. Thus, criticizing them for doing so is kind of, well, useless, no?

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10-30-2012, 08:37 PM

People concentrate too much on voting for the president. That's like calling yourself a christian and only going to church on easter sunday.

People need to widen their political attention to all elections. Local, state, etc...Simply voting your guy in for president isn't the magic pill.

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10-30-2012, 08:45 PM

Judging from your other posts, you seem to have had a pretty negative stance against Obama.

Now your trying to "persuade" people to vote for a third party. LOL.

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10-30-2012, 08:48 PM

Sperbonzo wants you to throw your support to Roseanne! lol

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10-31-2012, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by astronaut x

Judging from your other posts, you seem to have had a pretty negative stance against Obama.

Now your trying to "persuade" people to vote for a third party. LOL.

I do have a negative stance against Obama. I think people should vote for Gary Johnson and the Libertarian Party. They are polling at over 5% in quite a few states, and if they can carry 5% of the popular vote overall, then next election cycle they will have access to all of the same TV, funding and debate rights as the Dems and Reps. That will really start to open things up and break up this two party monopoly.

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10-31-2012, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by Robbie

That's not true.

I voted for Clinton and did not consider him in any way to be the lesser of two evils.
I will admit that my votes for Bush in 2000 and 2004 were choices between the lesser of two evils.
I voted for Obama and was completely sincere in my vote (fell for his bullshit about "hope and change" hook, link, and sinker)

I'm voting for Johnson this time. And I feel very "clean" about my vote.

So no, it's not "always".

But this year if you are voting for Obama or Romney then "yes" you are voting for the lesser of two evils.

And for the idiots in this post..."lesser of two evils" is just a saying. It doesn't actually mean "EVIL".

Clinton and Giuliani (for mayor) were the last of the two parties who I felt good about. Both centrists. It was so great to be young in the 90s in NYC. Then came the Great Idiot, who partisanized everything, and lied to everyone. How we in America ever voted in the son of a former president - No No NO! If someone comes from a "dynasty" they should usually be jailed, not made the president.

That goes for the kennedys as well. People who use rhetoric to lie and better their family fortunes by definition cannot be centrists because they must create hysteria to cover their activities.
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