Affiliate Fraud - Program Owners BAN these idiots!

**Dirty D** · 12-02-2007, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by The Judge

99% of programs don't give a rat's ass about adware/toobars as long as someone brings in the sales.

It is estimated that around 30% of all PC's have some sort of undetectable Russian spyware (rootkits)

Then support the 1% that do give a rat's ass.
We vigorously pursue cheaters, copyright infringers and anyone that is a threat to our biz.

www.HowIgotRich.com

**Quickdraw** · 12-02-2007, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by Rockatansky

I had lots of Dean Arrow and Assoc affiliates too, but never any problems!

Tried ICQ.. Looks like nylondollars and sites have been hacked. Maybe someone else can get a message through.

**BluMedia** · 12-02-2007, 02:46 PM

We usually contact affiliates wanting to be paid through Dean Arrow & Associates and tell them they have to chose one of our pre approved payment methods.

Mark

**DBS.US** · 12-02-2007, 10:39 PM

Check out http://deanarrow.com/

**Naja-ram** · 12-02-2007, 11:19 PM

why aren't russians banned from this industy ? really, i need a reason

**The Judge** · 12-02-2007, 11:36 PM

Nothing there about payment processing

Originally posted by DBS.US

Check out http://deanarrow.com/

**DutchTeenCash** · 12-03-2007, 03:40 AM

Originally posted by DBS.US

Check out http://deanarrow.com/

looks like a $5 template

wouldnt surprise me if thats a postal drop only - theres a bunch of ccbill aff using them as well Ill mail some ppl and ask

**Naja-ram** · 12-03-2007, 04:06 AM

Originally posted by Quickdraw

Tried ICQ.. Looks like nylondollars and sites have been hacked. Maybe someone else can get a message through.

someone should contact these guys

**Naja-ram** · 12-03-2007, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by SteveLightspeed

We have 20 accounts with all different names, using Epass, listing "Dean Arrow and Assoc" as the check payable. But I don't see any real cb or refund problems.

Anyone else have any info?

Originally posted by D

We have quite a few entries for Dean Arrow, ourselves (at least a dozen)... some of which get paid by check.

I remember there was some red flag or something tripped a few months ago in relation to that company, and, though I don't think I looked into it significantly, I remember being appeased, at the time, with the explanation that they're a brokerage firm.

I'll check into things a bit more in depth now, but, I don't think Rowan's question has been answered effectively yet. If people are convinced one way or the other on case #2, please hit me up in ICQ.

i don't understand you guys... why should someone have more than 1 account ? why doesn't this raise a flag ? are you guys so blinded by the money he brings you that you risk your reputation for this ?

**Naja-ram** · 12-03-2007, 04:10 AM

Originally posted by Matt_WildCash

We have 8 Dean Arrow affilate accounts as well, although the only actibve one is fully legit promoting using free sites.

That Vitaliy Sworowsky we found and banned sometime in the past.

Thanks for the info none the less.

Matt

you too.

**CIVMatt** · 12-03-2007, 05:09 AM

Good information, fuck these guys, grrrrrrr. I don't see him in my affiliate list but I've certainly made a note of it.

**Bruce_Miller** · 12-03-2007, 05:33 AM

Thanks for the heads up guys, we had him only once, but have banned him also.

**Why** · 12-03-2007, 07:50 AM

there is another big forwarding place out of Delaware of Pennsylvania as well.

Yes, Dean Arrow & Associates forwards checks, mail and money on to foreign entities. im not really sure how its even possibly legal but they seem to be getting away with it.

**Why** · 12-03-2007, 07:54 AM

shit i got bitched at the last time i posted scammers personal info on here and other boards. DirtyD, hit me up and ill send you a big ass list of fuckheads you can ban.

**Dirty D** · 12-03-2007, 11:46 AM

Fuck the scammers... I will out them every time.
I just deleted 14 inactive accounts using Dean Arrow.

2 had legit traffic and I have contacted them to get paid directly.

Any other mail forwarding folks we should take a look for?

**Roald** · 12-03-2007, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Naja-ram

i don't understand you guys... why should someone have more than 1 account ? why doesn't this raise a flag ? are you guys so blinded by the money he brings you that you risk your reputation for this ?

As far as I read it it isn't always a scammer using the Dean Arrow service, its a company who handles checks for people who don';t want to give out their info. Shady to say the least but not directly/always a scammer who use this service

**BluMedia** · 12-04-2007, 06:39 PM

bump for the scammers.

**SmokeyTheBear** · 12-04-2007, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by QuaShe

As far as I read it it isn't always a scammer using the Dean Arrow service, its a company who handles checks for people who don';t want to give out their info. Shady to say the least but not directly/always a scammer who use this service

correct although personally i wouldnt allow this , i would ask these affiliates to provide correct info or move on..

the only legit reason to use a service like this is if you have hundreds of sponsors and check cashing prices are 2 high.

in this case payment by epassporte would work

**NTSS** · 12-04-2007, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by Naja-ram

i don't understand you guys... why should someone have more than 1 account ? why doesn't this raise a flag ? are you guys so blinded by the money he brings you that you risk your reputation for this ?

Damn good question? Would like to know myself

**SNRProductions** · 12-04-2007, 09:48 PM

dang we just had one sign up and looked back and had 3 more...deactivating them all now...thanks! Looks like the guys name is Dmitry Marchenko if that helps anyone.

**tolik** · 12-05-2007, 12:24 AM

hm

http://deanarrow.com/BodyStyle.asp?m...Tech_Marketing

very interesting, no?

**Hardman** · 12-10-2007, 02:26 AM

Hello guys,

first of all, plz, slow down. Don't let your emotion to cover your mind.
Dean Arrow is really a payment mediator for those guys who are mad about cashing checks in exUSSR counties. It's really a problem there. So we established this service to help them. They don't try hide their identity with us, they just try to get their money. I'm sure most of them will give you their real adrresses if you ask.

If you are still worry about that, please contact webmasters directly and ask them to change check address or a payment type, but don't ban accounts without questions.

We are always trying to keep honest webmasters only is our system, but we have over 500 registered webmasters now, and it's posible that from time to time we can pass a cheater or two... So please help us to catch them, instead of banning the rest of good webmasters.

Our clients has their ID payment details looks like: Fxxxxxx, where x is a digit. Please give me suspected account IDs and we'll catch them.

Thanks,
Hardman
icq: 111.20.72

**Hardman** · 12-10-2007, 04:30 AM

If an account goes well for you for a long time - please think twice before blocking it just because of Dean Arrow name on it.

And once more - please inform me about any suspicious activity with Dean Arrow accounts.

**martinsc** · 12-10-2007, 04:43 AM

fucking cheaters....

**Mayor** · 12-10-2007, 05:38 AM

We have a number of legit guys that use DeanArrow as their pay to, but also have had some scammers use it as well which we blocked, so its like all other affiliates must take on a case by case basis.

**Hardman** · 12-10-2007, 07:48 AM

Can you please give me any info on cheaters using Dean Arrow address?

**Tofunny** · 12-15-2007, 09:16 PM

I agreeligi

Originally posted by Kre8t0r

Bump this back to the top!

I agree bump Azure No Cash to the top, these guys are scum bags are already in one lawsuit and counting.....

Affiliate Fraud - Program Owners BAN these idiots!

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