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07-10-2002, 10:57 AM

Before someone jumps on my ass, I am already buying a lot at this price so just take a chill pill.

Any photographers that shoot regularly, you take say 25 extra pics every shoot and sell them to me with a blanket licence for 25$. By blanket that means I can resell if I ever decide too. Right now I just want to give them away to my clients. May not sound like much money, but if your stuff is good I can buy as much as you can shoot. I prefer teen content. Thanks

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07-10-2002, 11:32 AM

I have a number of sets where I did not use all of the images, but left behind some usable stuff. We might be able to work something out.

The other thing is that while I don't offer exclusive, I do make a point of not overselling any set, so I might have regular stuff you would be interested in.

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07-10-2002, 12:08 PM

Ian, yeah I could buy 25 pics of each girl even if they are not exclusive, but only if the license is blanket. Hit me up on icq please.
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07-10-2002, 01:08 PM

You shouldn't worry too much about people biting your head off Choker. I've been buying exclusive phone sex pics for the same prices all year

While there are many who won't consider it... there are many who will! I can give you some names if you ICQ me.

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07-10-2002, 01:22 PM

Hi Choker!

I have thousands of pictures, no problems to sell you 25 pics per girl with a blanket license, but not exclusive.

I am looking to buy traffic to my 2 paysites so we could even exchange your traffic against my pics. What do you think, please contact me by e-mail if interested!

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07-10-2002, 01:25 PM

$25 for 25 images you own outright?

Forget about it

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07-10-2002, 02:00 PM

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$25 for 25 images you own outright?

Forget about it

Totally, I would sell you 25 pictures that you could give to your affiliates for promotional use but you would not be able to re-sell them.
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07-10-2002, 02:09 PM

$25 for 25 images you own outright? Forget about it

Well, I have had 3 so far willing to do this. I am willing to have a clause forbidding me from selling the content for 6 months. And maybe not exclusive. But that is all. If you guys are not willing to do this, there are plenty that are. Anybody else just icq me please icq 116894466

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07-10-2002, 03:47 PM

I'll pay $2 an image for ownership, any takers?
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07-10-2002, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by Choker
Before someone jumps on my ass, I am already buying a lot at this price so just take a chill pill.

Any photographers that shoot regularly, you take say 25 extra pics every shoot and sell them to me with a blanket licence for 25$. By blanket that means I can resell if I ever decide too. Right now I just want to give them away to my clients. May not sound like much money, but if your stuff is good I can buy as much as you can shoot. I prefer teen content. Thanks

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07-10-2002, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by charly
$25 for 25 images you own outright?

Forget about it

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07-10-2002, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by charly
$25 for 25 images you own outright?

Forget about it

Hey Choaker asked a legit question, and there are many people willing to do just what he needs. I even have several top knotch people I buy the content from for the same price and same license deal. If you werent interrested in his deal, you didnt need to post you crap reply....

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07-10-2002, 07:58 PM

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I'll pay $2 an image for ownership, any takers?

I will do you exclusive shoots for that price, same girl 100 pictures in 5 different sets, if you want videos of each shoot extra $150 per set. You own it 100% out right.
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07-10-2002, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by Wiredoctor

Hey Choaker asked a legit question, and there are many people willing to do just what he needs. I even have several top knotch people I buy the content from for the same price and same license deal. If you werent interrested in his deal, you didnt need to post you crap reply....

You're right but I really cant understand how guys can shoot at that price and give away resell rights.

And I would be pissed if I was buying content and a content provider was "tacking on" 25 images to the same set.

If they go to affiliates or get resold by others then even though they are not the exact same pics, they are going to look like the same pics and will saturate the whole set, not just the 25 tacked on pics.

I have done $1 a pic before, but that was groups of 1000 pics of the one model and it was sweetened by some overpriced video as part of the shoot. And there was no resell rights.

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07-10-2002, 08:04 PM

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I will do you exclusive shoots for that price, same girl 100 pictures in 5 different sets, if you want videos of each shoot extra $150 per set. You own it 100% out right.

100 pics total? Or 500 pics total? I'm not paying $1000 for one girl.
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07-10-2002, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by Lensman
I'll pay $2 an image for ownership, any takers?

Thanks but we will let that one go as well.

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07-10-2002, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by Wiredoctor

Hey Choaker asked a legit question, and there are many people willing to do just what he needs. I even have several top knotch people I buy the content from for the same price and same license deal. If you werent interrested in his deal, you didnt need to post you crap reply....

You know top notch people that sell at $1 an image?
Please put them onto me and I will buy from them?
I will give you a license on everyset I purchase for free, or are you just blowing in the wind?

you put up a post on this board expect to get all kind of replies. Check the name of the siite, I think it tells you the attitude here.

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07-10-2002, 09:41 PM

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07-10-2002, 09:51 PM

OMG, no disrespect intended to some of you content guys, but some of you think your shit does not stink. You think your content is Gods gift to the web. There are SO MANY guys selling content it is pathetic. And 99% of you are asking prices that are outright stupid. I would NEVER pay more than .25 a pic for regular license pics. Hell I can buy all I want at that price and better quality than most of you guys have. Ever heard of Ounique?? and there are many other content providers just like them.

So far I have like 4 guys that are willing to do this 25 pic deal at my price. Hell, if a photographer did this with 4 guys, each shoot he has $100 in his pocket before he even clicks his shutter. That should pay at least half the costs of the model. But I still need more. I need a lot of content, so hit me up if you are willing to make this deal. Thanks

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07-10-2002, 10:00 PM

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07-10-2002, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by Choker
I would NEVER pay more than .25 a pic for regular license pics. Hell I can buy all I want at that price and better quality than most of you guys have. Ever heard of Ounique?? and there are many other content providers just like them.

I just double checked Ounique's prices and they are $0.45 to $0.65 cents an image for their new stuff (I clicked new straight sets and clicked teen). Yep you can get a good deal like there 100 sets for $990 but most content providers will do a deal on that volume.

Not knocking you choker, if you can buy the pics at $1 each and be able to resell them then more power to you.

But I can take those same 25 pics, sell them 3 times on a non exclusive licnese and I have the same as I would have received from you.

And the pictures arent everywhere, I still own them and will still make more sales.

And I will make my point again, unless I was buying the pictures very cheap, I would be really pissed at a content provider if I bought a set and then found that there were 25 pics of the same scene gone to someone else to give to affiliates and/or resell. It will quickly make that set I just bought useless. And if oversaturation didnt matter then everyone would just use sponsor pics.

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07-10-2002, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by Wiredoctor

Hey Choaker asked a legit question, and there are many people willing to do just what he needs. I even have several top knotch people I buy the content from for the same price and same license deal. If you werent interrested in his deal, you didnt need to post you crap reply....

I wonder how this top-notch's other customers feel about being fucked in the ass so that this photographer can make a few pennies on a buck? Mine would be livid.

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07-10-2002, 10:15 PM

And I am not posting this because I think my shit doesnt stink, but if people sit down and look at their costs properly, $1 a pic just doesnt add up.

I know my work is not great, but it is better than alot. There is also a lot that is better than mine. But the main thing is my customers tell me it converts, and they come back and buy more, so thats all I worry about.

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07-10-2002, 10:23 PM

Ounique sells content routinely for .25 an image, it seems they run that special once a month or so.

Let's get real for a second. If a photographer hires a model for $300 and shoots her in his location with his digital camera for 6 sets in a day. And he shoots 80 pics a set, then he breaks it up into 2 sets a series, licenses one each exclusive for, say $2 an image x 30 pics x 6 sets = $360. He pays his variable overhead with the exclusive stuff and all the license sales are profit or contribute to fixed overhead.

So whats the fricken complaint?
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07-10-2002, 10:23 PM

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100 pics total? Or 500 pics total? I'm not paying $1000 for one girl.

Alot of people like that, 500 pictures and five sets. On a site if they have, which most do, mulitple girls it gives them the ability to bring in a new set once a month or something along those lines. Economies of scale...plus you get kick arse video that streams amazingly..
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07-10-2002, 10:25 PM

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OMG, no disrespect intended to some of you content guys, but some of you think your shit does not stink. You think your content is Gods gift to the web. There are SO MANY guys selling content it is pathetic. And 99% of you are asking prices that are outright stupid. I would NEVER pay more than .25 a pic for regular license pics. Hell I can buy all I want at that price and better quality than most of you guys have. Ever heard of Ounique?? and there are many other content providers just like them.

So far I have like 4 guys that are willing to do this 25 pic deal at my price. Hell, if a photographer did this with 4 guys, each shoot he has $100 in his pocket before he even clicks his shutter. That should pay at least half the costs of the model. But I still need more. I need a lot of content, so hit me up if you are willing to make this deal. Thanks

My shit does stink, it's just that I do not sell for a lot less than my pictures are worth.

Content is what the surfer booted up to jerk off to and if you buy on price expect to sell on price.

A whole $100 fantastic. I sell pics of girls that come to castings for $40 each.

It is down to what your product is worth and if you think all the content providers are the same good luck to you. We ask a price we can get from those running profitable sites.

Plus I think you will find our prices better than Ounique and the quality well then that depends what you are looking for.

Through all this thread you have not stated what kind of pictures you want, Solo, two girl, Boy Girl, Teen, Mature, Glamour, Amateur, plus about 30 0ther styles/niches. Or are all pictures the same?

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07-10-2002, 10:33 PM

I wonder how this top-notch's other customers feel about being fucked in the ass so that this photographer can make a few pennies on a buck? Mine would be livid.

They are probably too busy making money to worry about the small shit. Not being able to convert because of "over saturation" is just an excuse for people who do not know how to sell.
Hell, hasn't Lensman himself been running some of the same pics on his tours for over 2 years now?? Think he does this for a reason maybe ?????

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07-10-2002, 10:38 PM

Through all this thread you have not stated what kind of pictures you want, Solo, two girl, Boy Girl, Teen, Mature, Glamour, Amateur, plus about 30 0ther styles/niches. Or are all pictures the same?

Mostly teen and amateur solos. The reason I said $1 a pic, is because I knew I would be contacted by a lot of guys with these posing girls in a empty apartment with nothing more that a nasty looking bed as a prop. If it is Ouniqe type quality, I would pay $2 per pic under the terms I stated. I don't plan on selling content, but at the same time I have to leave all options open. I would even consider a clause forbidding me from reselling for 6 months or so.

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07-10-2002, 10:38 PM

Lensman it's simple.

We get a girl in the studio, we shoot 6 sets of her that are worth $500 each. Or we shoot 2-3 magazine sets worth $2,000 each.

Plus our clients know they are not being given away by someone, to all his affiliates for nothing and posted up on every TGP site. And he will not go on to resell them as a content supplier.

If Choker wants to do all this there are lots of good shooters who will be only to pleased to shoot him a set EXCLUSIVE for $300.

No he wants to do it all for $25.

Don't blame him for trying though, good luck to yer

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07-10-2002, 10:39 PM

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Plus I think you will find our prices better than Ounique and the quality well then that depends what you are looking for.

Great, we just bought 200 sets for $1980 from Ounique today. That's $9.90 a set (25 - 75 pics a set).

Sell me all you've got for $9.90 a set. No more than two sets a model please. And we need ID's and release scans like Ounique does for 2257 purposes. We'll do the deal tomorrow.

Same deal applies to any other photographers that hang out here.
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07-10-2002, 10:54 PM

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07-10-2002, 11:01 PM

I will pass thanks.

I am not a photographer but have run alot of commision based shoots for true cash etc. Plus I also own the rights exclusivily to thousands of images and videos.

$9.90 per set I would not do.

However we are in a different ball game where by we sell and you have the exclusive rights to the content so that no-one else has it giving your sites that higher converting edge.

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07-10-2002, 11:03 PM

This is capitalism, Lensman, Choker, and the rest, which means the value of my work is determined by what people will pay, not what people don't want to pay. Maybe you know a different theory of value than I do. People WILL pay what I ask, so that is what my stuff is worth. I prefer not to be known as the K-Mart of web photography.

Also, it's a question of fairness for me. If someone is going to pay less than another customer, there has to be a better reason than "he asked, you didn't." A quantity purchase I can justify to a full-price customer. This, I could not.

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07-10-2002, 11:07 PM

Lensman

Check out our "Budget" section. Sets in their for $10, $9.90 is acceptable. Hit me on ICQ

<A HREF="http://www.paulmarkham.com/category.php?userlogin=sharepix&userpassword=share pix&set_id=1090&visit=1090" target="_blank">For sets like this @ $9.90</A>

<A HREF="http://www.paulmarkham.com/category.php?userlogin=sharepix&userpassword=share pix&set_id=0132&visit=0132" target="_blank">Or this, got over 40 sets ready to go</A>

The rest of the site is a bit higher priced than that. Just not as desperate as Ounique. Ans as they just broker what do they care what it costs.

It's not what it cost, it's what you can get for it that matters.

We can and do get a lot more for our sets, so do not need to sell them all so cheap.

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07-10-2002, 11:08 PM

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07-10-2002, 11:09 PM

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This is capitalism, Lensman, Choker

do you think you need to explain that to them? it's you who doesn't appear to understand the term.

don't sell to them. there are others that will. end of story.

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07-10-2002, 11:12 PM

Well i like to add some stuff to this thread and thjis goes to you to CHRALY
we all know that ton of us make content out of the USA and why all know why two things one for another look but two the cost of the women , now all of you are trashing and then talking crazzy this is to you charly mostly
I know what women cost where you are and i know what they cost me when i was in russian and i damn sure know what i pay in the philippines
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HELL YES I CAN DO WHAZT HE IS ASKING FOR AND HERE IS WHY GUYS AND DO THE MATH
I KNOW FOR SOLO WOMEN I PAY OK WELL I NOT SAY THAT SHIT OK 20.00 TO 50.00 FOR A SHOOT THAT WILL BE THREE SETS AND THERE
so lets say that you make 300 plus pics welll shit if you sell all them at a exclus cost of just 1.00 there will be no less then 250$ profit ,, not to bad for a few hours of work , so lets all remember where the women are from and that will give you a reason and a how a person can sell so cheap ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I will shoot for any one all day long that wants exclus pic of women and they can even be one timers
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07-10-2002, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by Lensman
Ounique sells content routinely for .25 an image, it seems they run that special once a month or so.

Let's get real for a second. If a photographer hires a model for $300 and shoots her in his location with his digital camera for 6 sets in a day. And he shoots 80 pics a set, then he breaks it up into 2 sets a series, licenses one each exclusive for, say $2 an image x 30 pics x 6 sets = $360. He pays his variable overhead with the exclusive stuff and all the license sales are profit or contribute to fixed overhead.

So whats the fricken complaint?

Lensman there is a big difference between $2 an image and $1 an image.

I would gladly take you up your $2 a picture offer if you didnt want resale rights to them. Maybe I could have my arm twisted but for my own reasons I would rather be the only one selling my content.

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07-10-2002, 11:19 PM

Well i like to add some stuff to this thread and thjis goes to you to CHRALY
we all know that ton of us make content out of the USA and why all know why two things one for another look but two the cost of the women , now all of you are trashing and then talking crazzy this is to you charly mostly
I know what women cost where you are and i know what they cost me when i was in russian and i damn sure know what i pay in the philippines
so to bring what chocker asked
HELL YES I CAN DO WHAZT HE IS ASKING FOR AND HERE IS WHY GUYS AND DO THE MATH
I KNOW FOR SOLO WOMEN I PAY OK WELL I NOT SAY THAT SHIT OK 20.00 TO 50.00 FOR A SHOOT THAT WILL BE THREE SETS AND THERE
so lets say that you make 300 plus pics welll shit if you sell all them at a exclus cost of just 1.00 there will be no less then 250$ profit ,, not to bad for a few hours of work , so lets all remember where the women are from and that will give you a reason and a how a person can sell so cheap ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I will shoot for any one all day long that wants exclus pic of women and they can even be one timers
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07-10-2002, 11:44 PM

This is capitalism, Lensman, Choker, and the rest, which means the value of my work is determined by what people will pay, not what people don't want to pay. Maybe you know a different theory of value than I do. People WILL pay what I ask, so that is what my stuff is worth. I prefer not to be known as the K-Mart of web photography.

Unseen world, Who asked you dude?? If people are paying what you ask, then why are you trying to get your spam in here on this thread. You should be busy filling orders instead. You have VERY nice content, but $1 a pic for regular license. ROFLMAO. If people are actually paying that, then you are a marketing genius and you have my respect, but never my business at those prices.

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07-11-2002, 12:10 AM

Hey I'll pay the same price and I only want the pix for promotional use for Fetishbucks referring webmasters. If you wanna sell some content hit me up via email or icq #2417874

I especially need niche stuff, amateur stuff, watersports, facials.. basically if you see your niche covered at http://www.fetishbucks.com I'll buy your pix.

isn't Krista just too cute??
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07-11-2002, 12:29 AM

For those that do not understand the differnce between Amateur and Professional photographer.

Amateur;
Model = $300 the rest comes out of his packet cos he loves to see naked flesh.

Professional;
Model = $300
Finding models = ?
Computer, etc, = ?
Camera and lens = ?
Lights and metre = ?
Clothing for model = ?
Props for location = ?
Delivery of images = ?
Website to sell on = ?
Telephone = ?
Electricity = ?
Heating = ?
Water = ?

And there are a lot more like accountants, etc.
The model is only part of the costs.

Prostock if you think it's such a good deal you sell to him. I will buy from you, if your pictures are good enough, for a lot more that $1 an image non-exclusive. I never broker, I buy and pay cash. But not sets that you sell to him.

The bottom line is this guy is a cheap skate who does not think he needs to spend the money on content. The sole reason surfers visit his site. He just wants to screw the producers into the ground or cannot afford to pay anymore.

Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
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07-11-2002, 12:58 AM

Ok Charly, now you are just being an asshole.

The bottom line is this guy is a cheap skate who does not think he needs to spend the money on content

DUHHHHHH, of course I am cheap.

He just wants to screw the producers into the ground or cannot afford to pay anymore

You are a total idiot spammer. I woke up this morning with the express goal of screwing producers. Dumb ass.

If you can't provide what I asked for, then why even reply?? Oh, so you can spam, that's it. Just like Unseenworld, if you are making so much money selling content, why are you posting your spam here?? You should be busy filling orders.

Great customer relation skills too. I was going to buy some of your stuff with a regular license until you attacked me. DUMBASS

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The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

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07-11-2002, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by Lensman
I'll pay $2 an image for ownership, any takers?

Lens,

Can you hit me up on my icq I am working with a bunch of new photographers and would like to offer you a deal.
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07-11-2002, 07:52 AM

I can sell you some pictures of my dog for this price

naked iguanas and fish also available

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07-11-2002, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by Jayson

Lensman there is a big difference between $2 an image and $1 an image.

I would gladly take you up your $2 a picture offer if you didnt want resale rights to them. Maybe I could have my arm twisted but for my own reasons I would rather be the only one selling my content.
Jayson

I'm with you. Actually, I do give up all rights to my exclusive content, but I wouldn't do so at $1 a photo. Wouldn't be fair to my other customers.

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07-11-2002, 08:44 AM

As a new photo content provider, who has yet to sell any exclusives, all I can say is that this has been a very educational and enlightening thread to read and you guys raise great points.
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07-11-2002, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by hershie
As a new photo content provider, who has yet to sell any exclusives, all I can say is that this has been a very educational and enlightening thread to read and you guys raise great points.

Glad to be of help.

You will soon find that if you can produce the content, you will not have to give it away to get sales. And if you can not selling on price is better than not selling.

If I may just say something about your front page, one of the girls needs changing fast, she is not the most attractive girl you have. IMHO

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07-11-2002, 08:57 AM

Sorry
I meant to say the right content.

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07-11-2002, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by hershie
As a new photo content provider, who has yet to sell any exclusives, all I can say is that this has been a very educational and enlightening thread to read and you guys raise great points.

You want a real eye opener? I am in Vancouver right now. Come to the Pacific Palisaides Hotel and look me up. We will talk shop.

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