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"They've stolen our jobs".... ear candy for idiots.43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
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No wonder this guy didn't want his tax returns made public.
Palin was a fool, this one's worse.Comment
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Half $1 million, in three years, from an investment firm. He probably trades more than that every morning before he wakes up.Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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Blind trust
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A blind trust is a trust in which the fiduciaries, namely the trustees or those who have been given power of attorney, have full discretion over the assets, and the trust beneficiaries have no knowledge of the holdings of the trust and no right to intervene in their handling. Blind trusts are generally used when a settlor (sometimes called a trustor or donor) wishes to keep the beneficiary unaware of the specific assets in the trust, such as to avoid conflict of interest between the beneficiary and the investments. Politicians or others in sensitive positions often place their personal assets (including investment income) into blind trusts, to avoid public scrutiny and accusations of conflicts of interest when they direct government funds to the private sector.
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Even better, Romney is investing in Chinese oil. Fucking brilliant.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...e-oil-company/Herschel Savage
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ys_650833.htmlDespite Criticisms, Obama's Investments Share Similarities with Romney'sComment
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http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-...rticle/2502361Obama has investments in companies that ship jobs overseas
President Obama has accused Mitt Romney of raking in profits from investing in companies that ship American jobs overseas, but according to his most recent financial disclosure, he and First Lady Michelle Obama have hundreds of thousands of dollars in a mutual fund that has large holdings in corporations that outsource jobs.Comment
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Obama even outsourced your tax dollars!
http://www.streettalklive.com/off-th...vestments.htmlOBAMANOMICS OUTSOURCED
The Truth About How Obama Shipped The Recovery OverseasComment
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As I said Paul, anyone with any sort of investment whatsoever, is going to have the same dirt on their hands.
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Factcheck.org
http://factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-...cer-overreach/Obama?s ?Outsourcer? Overreach
The president's campaign fails to back up its claims that Romney 'shipped jobs' overseas.Comment
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i have invested in a few chinese funds - would be stupid not to do so since their economy will still grow heavily for the next 10-20 years.Comment
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[QUOTE=Paul Markham;19250879}
What do you think he will do when he's President?[/QUOTE]
He's gonna send Obama's death panel after your senile ass...
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What a fucking crock of shit this whole topic is!
Should he instead have invested his money in Kentucky Fried Chicken? That's about as American as you can get right? A white southern gentleman dressed in a white plantation suit selling chicken. But wait ? it's share price is rising because it opens 2-3 outlets a day in China.
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I'm voting for both candidates just in case
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In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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Are you so sure about that. This is just a few of the businesses that Bain has funded.
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Do we need to find more companies that Bain funded that do produce jobs? And a lot of them.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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Pure Democrat Bullshit!
http://www.american.com/archive/2012...create-at-bainThe companies Bain Capital funded under Romney have created tens of thousands of jobs using any measure.Comment
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I think most of the US stock market is over inflated BS and about 2/3 of my 401k is overseas growth mutual funds. Mutual funds are very diverse by their nature and the farthest thing from investing specifically in any one company.. I'm just sayin'
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Paul, you have said this at least 20 times in this election cycle.
And you continue to use the word SPEND in place of the word WASTE. Until the time comes that you look at those two words, we have nothing more to discuss.
I have also said at least 20 times in this election cycle.
You can't continue to spend more than you make.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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Theres just no aguing facts with some of you idiots who are so emotionally invested in your mythical man. Facts and logic dont matter.
It's like that old adage goes...if you want to piss off a republican, tell him a lie. If you want to piss off a democrat, tell him the truth.icq: 237055440Comment
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Illustrate how the money is wasted.
And I agree with you. Are YOU ready for the pain it will cause?I have also said at least 20 times in this election cycle.
You can't continue to spend more than you make.
If a family is spending more than they earn. There comes a time it HAS TO STOP. Then the family has to buy less, live on less and face a far lower standard of living. With countries facing bad debt situations, that has meant everyone except the super rich earning less and paying more at the shops. Are you ready for that?
Because spending cuts will hurt you.
I think spending on arms, food, oil subsidies to private buyers should stop. The money should be put into long term projects of tomorrow so we can have the Next Apple, Microsoft, Space Shuttle and all the other great scientific, engineering and technical discoveries of tomorrow.
Romney doesn't think more teachers are good, thinks business will develop those skills and thinks he can level the playing field between the US and China.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1327413.html
And that's just China.Since 2001, the United States has lost 2.8 million manufacturing jobs to China -- that despite U.S. factory workers being far more productive.
Partly, it can be explained by China's cheaper workers: The average hourly wage for Chinese manufacturing workers is less than a tenth that of their average U.S. counterparts, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Now tell us how Vietnam got to be your biggest customer. Where did the money come from?Comment
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(I guess I shouldn't mention that Romney is actually correct in saying that China is manipulating their currency value artifically in a way that is bad for US manufacturing....)
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http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...e-numbers-2012
THere is a lot of information there for you to read. Rather than me cutting and pasting it all.
You asked the question if I am ready. The answer is yes. I could've retired years ago. My assets far exceed my debt. My children could live their lives and never work and if they weren't stupid about it, their children could do the same. But not working is not an option. I enjoy my job and now have one of my children here and 3 nephews. The goal is to make it interesting for them to grow. Btw. All of them to date have college degrees, before they took a job with us.
The federal government of Vietnam is not our biggest customer. They are our metals division biggest customer. Our biggest customer is our agricultural tire company which we own.
I went to school and the average class size was around 30 kids. Today, it's supposed to be many less. I think the quality of my education was on par with what is being taught today. Why do we need 50% more teachers to teach the same amount of students? And keep in mind, when I went to school computers didn't exist. There were no online classes. Teachers for the most part actually earned their salaries.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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This is the situation today and the problem the West faces.
And that is just China. US workers maybe more productive, not by a factor of 10. So what's the solution?Since 2001, the United States has lost 2.8 million manufacturing jobs to China -- that despite U.S. factory workers being far more productive.
Partly, it can be explained by China's cheaper workers: The average hourly wage for Chinese manufacturing workers is less than a tenth that of their average U.S. counterparts, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
We could tax the goods coming in at the docks and this tax will pay for the loss of jobs and the investment in the future of the West. This will mean people paying a lot more for an iPad, calculator, shirt, toys, etc. In the shops.
Import restrictions. Tough one, China will not like it.
People pay more in taxes today for investment in future technologies.
Banning the import of goods that were under US/EU patent or copyright protection, isn't going to stem the flow much.
Getting China to revalue it's currency to level the field. Also is a pipe dream. You can't revalue the Chinese, Vietnamese, Philippines, Indian, etc currencies to the level required. Only a fool would offer or think it would work.
Anyone with a better solution is welcome to put them forward. cutting spending = cutting jobs. Cutting taxes 10% won't bring 2.8 million jobs back to the US or the EU. It will result in a loss of jobs or more debt.Comment
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Only read to that part, as |I wanted to read the article. Is this the waste you're talking about?
And the West rode on the over inflation. Until the bubble burst.Federal entitlements are driving this spending growth, having increased from less than half of total federal outlays just 20 years ago to nearly 62 percent in 2012. Three major programs?Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security?dominate in size and growth, soaking up about 44 percent of the budget. All three programs are growing faster than inflation, and?when joined with $1.7 trillion in new Obamacare spending?will drain about 18.5 percent of the nation?s total economic output by mid-century. Because that is about the historical annual average of total federal tax revenue, it means all other government programs?national defense, veterans health care, transportation, federal law enforcement, and others?would effectively have to be financed on borrowed money.
Other entitlements continue growing as well. Anti-poverty programs have surged by 49 percent in just the past decade, even after adjusting for inflation. Spending for food stamps alone has more than tripled since 2002. Health programs, including Medicaid, have increased by 38 percent, and housing assistance by 48 percent.
Although these entitlement programs have dominated the government?s spending growth, discretionary spending?spending authorized by annual appropriations bills?also has grown by 40 percent more than inflation, to $1.289 trillion. Spending on non-defense programs has grown 29 percent. These outlays peaked in 2010 due to the stimulus bill, but remain 7 percent higher than their pre-stimulus level of 2008.
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I have seen the commercial you just quoted about 100 times already. No need to rehash what the problems are. We have elementary school children who know that.
You asked me a lot of questions,some of them pointed. How about responding to those.
And because I am interested,.,how about just this one question.
Why do kids today need more teachers per student than they needed a generation ago?You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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Because todays world requires kids with a better education. Make it harder for me please.
Or give up on debate and just resort to what sperbonzo does.
One of the cuts could be overseas aid to places like
Vietnam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_aid_to_Vietnam
Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%...ates_relations
See the whole list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...aid#RecipientsLast edited by Paul Markham; 10-17-2012, 07:23 AM.Comment
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Teachers do not help very smart people or very stupid people. I had a few bad teachers along the way in my education, as I am sure you did during yours. When I had a bad teacher, I taught myself the topic and ignored class time other than for taking exams. I had access to all the information I needed, I had good parents and others I could ask if I got stumped and so on. I'll never forget once when I had a horrible biology teacher, I asked my father if I he could get me switched into another teacher's class and he told me one day when I was older I'd have a stupid employer or a stupid customer and its better I learn how to deal with that effectively at an early age than wait until it actually mattered to figure it out.
The bright kids hardly need teachers at all. The idiots won't learn more than the basics with all the teachers and tutors you can find. However, most people are neither very bright nor stupid. Most people benefit tremendously from having good teachers, low ratios, and access to tutors or mentors. Having ordinary kids in bad neighborhoods surrounded by good teachers all day is vital because many cant rely on parents if they get stumped, many have nothing constructive to do after school without quality programs staffed by quality instructors.
As a case of simple math... Teachers and music classes or sports after school cost much less than prisons and guards after kids fail.
The bright kid in the worst school or the idiot in the best school will do the same with more or less teachers. The ordinary kid, which is most people, will do much better in life with more teachers and better schools. That costs you and I less in the long run. Also, you mention computers...you do know roughly half of all homes in the US still do not have a computer or broadband Internet access and many schools have many less computers than students, right?
Your son and nephews may be hard workers, may be educated, may be bright enough and supported enough not to rely on teachers. That does not make them typical.Comment
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The internet was designed by people with my education level. Most of the software, all of the manufacturing technology, robotics.. It's a long list of world changing accomplishments that people who had 30+ classmates in every room made.
I have been listening to this *better education* nonsense for years. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the quality of education. Maybe the schools simply need better motivated students.
If you are going to simply rehash current television ads and parrot worn out talking points, then it is you who needs to give up on the debate. Because rarely do you offer anything significant.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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Paul, if you read these comments from Relentless you should pay attention. No talking points or tv ads. And I agree with him. The reason we need more teachers is because it seems that the quality of students have gone downhill.
Having an entitlement society will do that.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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I will vote for Obama again, Romney has no chance... even with last weeks surge
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Ridiculous post.
Families start the process, they back up teachers work. To say teachers don't help is ignoring reality.
The other two posts by Minte were equally stupid. no wonder jobs are going to China.
Minte, again I will ask you. How did Vietnam raise the money for their Government to give you a contract? Foriegn aid, a US company going to Vietnam, ????
Is this the waste you talk of?
Federal entitlements are driving this spending growth, having increased from less than half of total federal outlays just 20 years ago to nearly 62 percent in 2012. Three major programs?Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security?dominate in size and growth, soaking up about 44 percent of the budget. All three programs are growing faster than inflation, and?when joined with $1.7 trillion in new Obamacare spending?will drain about 18.5 percent of the nation?s total economic output by mid-century. Because that is about the historical annual average of total federal tax revenue, it means all other government programs?national defense, veterans health care, transportation, federal law enforcement, and others?would effectively have to be financed on borrowed money.
Other entitlements continue growing as well. Anti-poverty programs have surged by 49 percent in just the past decade, even after adjusting for inflation. Spending for food stamps alone has more than tripled since 2002. Health programs, including Medicaid, have increased by 38 percent, and housing assistance by 48 percent.
Although these entitlement programs have dominated the government?s spending growth, discretionary spending?spending authorized by annual appropriations bills?also has grown by 40 percent more than inflation, to $1.289 trillion. Spending on non-defense programs has grown 29 percent. These outlays peaked in 2010 due to the stimulus bill, but remain 7 percent higher than their pre-stimulus level of 2008.Comment
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Ridiculous post.
Families start the process, they back up teachers work. To say teachers don't help is ignoring reality.
The other two posts by Minte were equally stupid. no wonder jobs are going to China.
Minte, again I will ask you. How did Vietnam raise the money for their Government to give you a contract? Foriegn aid, a US company going to Vietnam, ????
Is this the waste you talk of?
Paul, in most cases the years force a certain amount of wisdom on a person whether they want it or not. You clearly came up short or missed out on a few decades.
Believe it or not, Paul.. Vietnam is not a nation of peasants. They have spent 3 decades westernizing,building cities,airports, a complete infrustructure.
I've told you this before. We have sales reps. They are all over the world. We sell in Africa, Saudi Arabia, Australia, Europe and we even ship many containers a year TO China. What we have today is a global economy.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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