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  • Grapesoda
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    • Jul 2003
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    #51
    Originally posted by DWB
    religious beliefs never come true..
    however IF SOME RELIGIOUS NUT JOB KILLS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY... does it really matter if it's true?

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    • Sly
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      • Sep 2004
      • 31377

      #52
      Originally posted by JohnnyClips
      Yea that's bad but let's not talk about the trillions of dollars made in wars and killing people....instead lets go after David Icke for selling $30 in the free market
      I was wondering how long it would take you to start talking about wars. Second page. Not bad. Though I am confident you could have worked it into the first page somehow.

      You are slipping man, slipping.
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      • helterskelter808
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        • Sep 2010
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        #53
        Can you people demanding evidence from "conspiracy nuts", post your evidence for the following:

        1. 19 Arabs did 9/11
        2. NASA landed on the moon
        3. Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy

        Thanks.

        Oh, I'm not asking for links to any other websites. Just the evidence you know about in your own head. Assuming your belief is not just based on what you've been told happened, that is.

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        • Sly
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          • Sep 2004
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          #54
          Can you prove that you are human?

          Think about it.

          You can't. I can't either.

          We are all Cylon's.
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          • iwantchixx
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            • Oct 2002
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            #55
            Originally posted by Dirty F
            Where do you get the idea that i'm mad? I'm in bed, totally relaxed and watching a movie. Don't tell me you are STILL upset that i called you potheads dumb. That would be really sad.
            I'm a pot head and 12 shades smarter than most on here.. heh

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            • baryl
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              • Aug 2011
              • 1086

              #56
              Originally posted by helterskelter808
              Can you people demanding evidence from "conspiracy nuts", post your evidence for the following:

              1. 19 Arabs did 9/11
              2. NASA landed on the moon
              3. Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy

              Thanks.

              Oh, I'm not asking for links to any other websites. Just the evidence you know about in your own head. Assuming your belief is not just based on what you've been told happened, that is.
              1. If the government has no problem blowing the WTC, why couldn't they just plant WMDs in Iraq? What? That's too complicated or too immoral?
              2. There are fucking laser ranging reflectors on the moon that were places there by Apollo astronauts that are used to this day to measure the distance from the Earth to the moon. It's nto a big secret and the public (including other countries) have free access to use them
              3. I dont really care either way.
              4. How do you know that the Moon even exists? It could just be big lie made up by the lizard people.
              Last edited by baryl; 10-13-2012, 04:47 PM.

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              • Grapesoda
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jul 2003
                • 46238

                #57
                Originally posted by JohnnyClips
                Religious and patriotic nutjobs have been doing that since the dawn of time

                People like myself just point these facts out
                thank god you showed up so we know what the fuck is going on

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                • Grapesoda
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 46238

                  #58
                  Originally posted by helterskelter808
                  Can you people demanding evidence from "conspiracy nuts", post your evidence for the following:

                  1. 19 Arabs did 9/11
                  2. NASA landed on the moon
                  3. Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy

                  Thanks.

                  Oh, I'm not asking for links to any other websites. Just the evidence you know about in your own head. Assuming your belief is not just based on what you've been told happened, that is.
                  my dog told me all the shit so I know it's true...

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                  • PornoStar69
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                    • Oct 2008
                    • 2069

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Dirty F
                    And there we have the biggest conspiracy nutter of them all. Posting in huge letters as always to show us how stable and sane he is.

                    What you in bed with your gay lover? bumming each other over conspiracy people LOL ?


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                    • mromro
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                      • Jan 2011
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                      #60
                      A conspiracy is when 2 or more people plan together secretly to commit an illegal or wrongful act or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.

                      so are there conspiracies? Yes, they happen every single second of the day.

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                      • wehateporn
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                        • Apr 2007
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                        #61

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                        • helterskelter808
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                          • Sep 2010
                          • 3405

                          #62
                          Originally posted by baryl
                          1. If the government has no problem blowing the WTC, why couldn't they just plant WMDs in Iraq? What? That's too complicated or too immoral?
                          Why would they need to plant evidence? The job was done, mission accomplished, they had their war. Now, try and address the question: what is the evidence you know of that causes you believe that 19 Arabs did 9/11?

                          2. There are fucking laser ranging reflectors on the moon that were places there by Apollo astronauts that are used to this day to measure the distance from the Earth to the moon. It's nto a big secret and the public (including other countries) have free access to use them
                          The USSR put at least one laser reflector on the moon. Guess that means they landed human beings on it too, huh.

                          3. I dont really care either way.
                          You don't care if the Government lied about the assassination of a President?
                          Last edited by helterskelter808; 10-13-2012, 05:07 PM.

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                          • baryl
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by helterskelter808
                            Why would they need to plant evidence? The job was done, mission accomplished, they had their war. Now, try and address the question: what is the evidence you know of that causes you believe that 19 Arabs did 9/11?
                            How do you even know there was a war in Iraq? You been there? If so, how can you be sure it actually was Iraq? Maybe it was New Mexico. Or are you just trusting what the media tells you like a sheep?
                            Last edited by baryl; 10-13-2012, 05:14 PM.

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                            • wehateporn
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                              • Apr 2007
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                              #64
                              Originally posted by baryl
                              How do you even know there was a war in Iraq? You been there? If so, how can you be sure it actually was Iraq? Maybe it was New Mexico. Or are you just trusting what the media tells you like a sheep?

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                              • helterskelter808
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                                • Sep 2010
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by baryl
                                How do you even know there was a war in Iraq? You been there? Or are you just trusting what the media tells you like a sheep?
                                I'm guessing by your repeated avoiding of the question that you know of no evidence that 19 Arabs did 9/11, and you believe it simply because that's what you've been told.

                                Don't worry, it's how most people 'think'. For some reason some of them, as on this forum, delude themselves that believing whatever the media/Government tells them (without question) makes them smarter than "conspiracy nuts" who actually spend time looking at the evidence.
                                Last edited by helterskelter808; 10-13-2012, 05:23 PM.

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                                • oppoten
                                  NAME THE JEW
                                  • Nov 2007
                                  • 4793

                                  #66
                                  It's only the more palatable aspects of conspircacy theory that "go mainstream".

                                  We're seeing this right now in the UK with the Jimmy Savile scandal. They've been banging on about Savile for years on the David Icke forums. But while the public have no problem believing that Savile was a child abuser and possibly a high ranking mason, they'll stop short of declaring him an alien shapeshifter.

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                                  • helterskelter808
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                                    #67
                                    Seems from what I've read about Savile that he got away with it because he knew too many people in high places who were doing the same thing.

                                    He even openly admitted in his autobiography 40 years ago that he got away with it because otherwise he'd take police officers with him.

                                    Now he's in no position to name other people involved, everyone is free to talk about what he did. The public probably just thinks it was him, and a handful of other celebrity sickos, ignoring the police, judges and politicians involved.

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                                    • epitome
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                                      • Jun 2009
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                                      #68
                                      Still waiting to hear how Lou Pearlman came to a BBQ at your shitty apartment when he is in jail.

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                                      • Brujah
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                                        • Jan 2001
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                                        #69
                                        Threads like this would be way more interesting if the person making all the accusations (JohnnyClips) actually responded to the questions others pose. Instead, he's more like Paul Ryan in the last VP debate, avoiding the answers because he doesn't really have any.

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                                        • oppoten
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                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by helterskelter808
                                          Seems from what I've read about Savile that he got away with it because he knew too many people in high places who were doing the same thing.

                                          He even openly admitted in his autobiography 40 years ago that he got away with it because otherwise he'd take police officers with him.

                                          Now he's in no position to name other people involved, everyone is free to talk about what he did. The public probably just thinks it was him, and a handful of other celebrity sickos, ignoring the police, judges and politicians involved.
                                          Exactly. The other celebrities are providing a useful smokescreen.

                                          It's alleged that Savile supplied boys from a care home to Edward Heath (former PM) to abuse on his yacht. Those boys subsequently disappeared. Yet the media, and by extension the public, are not demanding an investigation into Heath's activities, because that would blow the lid off the whole system.

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                                          • Brujah
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                                            • Jan 2001
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                                            #71
                                            Is this Savile thing a global illuminati or alien conspiracy or a UK local conspiracy?

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                                            • oppoten
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                              Is this Savile thing a global illuminati or alien conspiracy or a UK local conspiracy?
                                              It isn't any kind of a conspiracy, and I'm sure the kids he abused would probably agree. The point is that it's an example of a conspiracy theory going mainstream, but without all the alien shit attached to it.

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                                              • Brujah
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                                                • Jan 2001
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by oppoten
                                                It isn't any kind of a conspiracy, and I'm sure the kids he abused would probably agree. The point is that it's an example of a conspiracy theory going mainstream, but without all the alien shit attached to it.
                                                JohnnyClips was talking about it as if it were some illuminati or occult conspiracy, and that everyone else was sheep. I hadn't actually been aware of it myself, but maybe it's huge news in the UK, and of course those who follow David Icke.

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                                                • oppoten
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                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Brujah
                                                  JohnnyClips was talking about it as if it were some illuminati or occult conspiracy, and that everyone else was sheep. I hadn't actually been aware of it myself, but maybe it's huge news in the UK, and of course those who follow David Icke.
                                                  It is huge news in the UK. And not everyone who reads the David Icke forums follows David Icke. Their thread on Jimmy Savile has had over 280,000 views, many of whom have been referred by newspapers, sports forums etc.

                                                  I don't believe in illuminati, because to me it just obscures perception of the truth. But there probably was an occult/ritualistic element to the abuse, simply because occult practices are empowering to the practicioner.

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                                                  • Brujah
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                                                    • Jan 2001
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                                                    #75
                                                    I guess I'm still confused about the "conspiracy theory" angle regarding it, where no one believed it except David Icke followers and then now it's mainstream reality. Was David Icke involved in it?

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                                                    • oppoten
                                                      NAME THE JEW
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                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by Brujah
                                                      I guess I'm still confused about the "conspiracy theory" angle regarding it, where no one believed it except David Icke followers and then now it's mainstream reality. Was David Icke involved in it?
                                                      David Icke worked at the BBC at a time when Savile's activities were known to BBC staff, but largely hidden from the public.

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                                                      • Brujah
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                                                        • Jan 2001
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                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by oppoten
                                                        David Icke worked at the BBC at a time when Savile's activities were known to BBC staff, but largely hidden from the public.
                                                        Did he come out about it at that time, and no one believed him? Or did David Icke keep it quiet until it was mainstream too?

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                                                        • oppoten
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                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Brujah
                                                          Did he come out about it at that time, and no one believed him? Or did David Icke keep it quiet until it was mainstream too?
                                                          Icke has spoken about it for many years, but he lacks credibility in the UK because the media portrays him as a conspiracy nut.

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                                                          • Brujah
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                                                            • Jan 2001
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                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by oppoten
                                                            Icke has spoken about it for many years, but he lacks credibility in the UK because the media portrays him as a conspiracy nut.
                                                            Was Icke unique in that he was the only one speaking about it?

                                                            Do you think if Icke gets it right about something like this, that it lends more credibility to his numerous other beliefs?

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                                                            • oppoten
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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                                              Was Icke unique in that he was the only one speaking about it?

                                                              Do you think if Icke gets it right about something like this, that it lends more credibility to his numerous other beliefs?
                                                              I think it would be hard for Icke to get it wrong about this. He was speaking about it, but many other figures in the media also knew it to be true.

                                                              For his other beliefs, I think that many of them are largely illustrative and allegorical. It isn't a matter of "getting it right", it's more a matter of getting people to think more and question more. But the trouble is that Icke comes across like he's got too much noise going on in his head. I've known people like him, and they never had any peace of mind.

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                                                              • Dirty F
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                                                                • Jul 2001
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                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by oppoten
                                                                Icke has spoken about it for many years, but he lacks credibility in the UK because the media portrays him as a conspiracy nut.
                                                                Jeesh, why would that be.

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                                                                • Jakez
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                                                                  • Jan 2004
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                  OP is an anti-conspiracy conspiracy nut job. They're everywhere now.

                                                                  .


                                                                  Originally posted by DWB
                                                                  The thing about government conspiracies is, they sometimes turn out to be true. And based on history, most governments have done some really out there and horrible shit. However, religious beliefs never come true. Not once. And they never will. So I classify religious whack jobs to be in a much worse category than the typical conspiracy theorist.


                                                                  Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                  Where do you get the idea that i'm mad? I'm in bed, totally relaxed and watching a movie. Don't tell me you are STILL upset that i called you potheads dumb. That would be really sad.
                                                                  The only thing dumb is thinking all potheads are dumb. Not saying I'm smart (I'm hardly even a pothead anymore), but I know some very smart people that are high as a kite from the minute they wake up 'till they goto sleep. Weed affects people in different ways. Some get 'fucked up' and lazy in a stupor and others get energized and clear headed..
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                                                                  • oppoten
                                                                    NAME THE JEW
                                                                    • Nov 2007
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                    Jeesh, why would that be.
                                                                    It would be because his agenda and the media's agenda aren't in unison. Nothing to do with whether or not he's speaking the truth.

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                                                                    • Roald
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                                                                      • May 2001
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Jakez
                                                                      The only thing dumb is thinking all potheads are dumb. Not saying I'm smart (I'm hardly even a pothead anymore), but I know some very smart people that are high as a kite from the minute they wake up 'till they goto sleep. Weed affects people in different ways. Some get 'fucked up' and lazy in a stupor and others get energized and clear headed..
                                                                      Nah. That's the typicall pothead excuse. I know, I've been there.


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                                                                      • Dirty F
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                                                                        • Jul 2001
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by oppoten
                                                                        It would be because his agenda and the media's agenda aren't in unison. Nothing to do with whether or not he's speaking the truth.
                                                                        Yeah, he's perfectly sane as we all know
                                                                        It certainly can't be because of that, right?

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                                                                        • Dirty F
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                                                                          • Jul 2001
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by Roald
                                                                          Nah. That's the typicall pothead excuse. I know, I've been there.

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                                                                          • MetaMan
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                                                                            • Jan 2003
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Roald
                                                                            Nah. That's the typicall pothead excuse. I know, I've been there.
                                                                            Wait. You are sober and still act stupid? Do you take any meds? I always thought you were off your rocker but clearly thought you took some kind of meds.

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                                                                            • BlackCrayon
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by epitome
                                                                              Still waiting to hear how Lou Pearlman came to a BBQ at your shitty apartment when he is in jail.
                                                                              yeah really
                                                                              you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                              • Slappin Fish
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by oppoten
                                                                                It would be because his agenda and the media's agenda aren't in unison. Nothing to do with whether or not he's speaking the truth.
                                                                                nothing to do with him believing we are ruled by third breeding program half-bloods with reptilian hybrid DNA that allows them to shapeshift when they consume human blood? huh. alright then.

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                                                                                • oppoten
                                                                                  NAME THE JEW
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                  Yeah, he's perfectly sane as we all know
                                                                                  It certainly can't be because of that, right?
                                                                                  He isn't sane. I wasn't defending him.

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                                                                                  • oppoten
                                                                                    NAME THE JEW
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by Slappin Fish
                                                                                    nothing to do with him believing we are ruled by third breeding program half-bloods with reptilian hybrid DNA that allows them to shapeshift when they consume human blood? huh. alright then.
                                                                                    nope, nothing to do with that at all. The media isn't looking for the truth.

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                                                                                    • Slappin Fish
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by oppoten
                                                                                      nope, nothing to do with that at all. The media isn't looking for the truth.
                                                                                      And you believe half-blood reptilians that shapeshift when they consume human blood is anything close to the truth?

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                                                                                      • SilentKnight
                                                                                        Megan Fox's fluffer
                                                                                        • Oct 2005
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by JohnnyClips
                                                                                        Then you would admit that aliens exist and that the government and the powers that be are hiding all sorts of information and knowledge that could free and empower us.
                                                                                        So...we're not "free" or "empowered" unless we're enlightened with advanced alien knowledge and technology?

                                                                                        I'm not claiming aliens exist...nor denying they do. I've not sat down and had a beer with one (yet)...so my jury is still out.

                                                                                        But my life doesn't feel it's lacking because my car doesn't fly like the Jetsons or that I don't have fresh fruit from Zeta Reticuli on my breakfast cereal.

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                                                                                        • Dirty F
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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by oppoten
                                                                                          He isn't sane. I wasn't defending him.
                                                                                          It sure looked like it

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                                                                                          • Dirty F
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                            yeah really
                                                                                            What do you expect from a delusional liar?

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                                                                                            • oppoten
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by Slappin Fish
                                                                                              And you believe half-blood reptilians that shapeshift when they consume human blood is anything close to the truth?
                                                                                              You're missing my point. I said that the media isn't looking for the truth, not that David Icke is speaking the truth.

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                                                                                              • oppoten
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                It sure looked like it
                                                                                                No it didn't

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                                                                                                • Slappin Fish
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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by oppoten
                                                                                                  You're missing my point. I said that the media isn't looking for the truth, not that David Icke is speaking the truth.
                                                                                                  You said the media "portrays" him as a nut, implying he isn't. should have said he IS a nutter. everyone would have understood you better.

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                                                                                                  • Dirty F
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Slappin Fish
                                                                                                    You said the media "portrays" him as a nut, implying he isn't. should have said he IS a nutter. everyone would have understood you better.
                                                                                                    That's exactly how i read it.

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                                                                                                    • Slappin Fish
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Sitting right now watching for the first time Ancient Aliens on History Channel... one of the best collection of cretins ever put together for a single show

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