This is EXACTLY the sort of thing I tried to warn about.
When the statement is made that "Donny filmed FOR Bang Bros", it can be taken two ways. He was either talent or he was behind the camera.
He obviously was hoping to build production credits.
In show biz, most understand that this type of creative resume-padding goes on. And most companies tolerate it, hell even encourage it, in case that person becomes very prominent.
When someone begins to cast such a nasty shadow the company has more to lose than gain.
correct and I have never said otherwise! here are some more links and there are about 40 more. I stated I have worked for a lot of the top companies in the biz which is correct! http://www.bangbros.com/t1/pps=bbone...os/es1383.html
correct and I have never said otherwise! here are some more links and there are about 40 more. I stated I have worked for a lot of the top companies in the biz which is correct! http://www.bangbros.com/t1/pps=bbone...os/es1383.html
On the Set; Donny Long: We're Going to Prove to Everybody What the Facts Are
--Gene Ross
Porn Valley- Content providers Donny Long and Joe Loughlin [pictured] have been doing their own version of an Apache dance on www.industryblacklist.com. Who's winning depends on whose side you were on in the first place.
Long, www.donnylongproductions.com concedes that Loughlin has his coterie of followers on GFY [Go Fuck Yourself], the webmaster site that has been closely following the gun battle between Long and Loughlin.
Much of it goes back to when Donny posted comments about Loughlin and his partner Dennis Ormond last year at this time, www.********.com/read.php?ID=20311
Long also suspects that Loughlin's loyalists on GFY are those he's probably given content to.
"Well they're going to learn," Long says. "Joe's done a lot of business with a lot of people that need content. And they know him on the Internet but don't know Joe of LA, and what he does to the girls.
"I for one have copied all the articles from Stoney Curtis bashing him on Porn Star Performance, www.pornstarperformance.com saying what a crook Joe is. Lisa Ann also wrote an article on LIB about what a scumbag Joe is and that he'll never book one of her girls again and that he owes her to this day over a thousand dollars.
"His response to all the people saying this is fuck them, he's an asshole; fuck her- she's a cunt. It's funny how all these reputable businesses and companies are saying stuff like this about him. And his clients have never seen this."
"They're probably sitting back going, ah, we've done business with him forever and we've never had a problem yet," Long continues.
"Some people might think wrongly of us for putting him out there and showing the truth. But they're also see what we're all about and why they need to get content from somebody who produces a lot more than he does and of a very higher quality.
"Those people need to sit back and watch what's going to happen in the next month or two. We're going to prove to everybody what the facts are. I'm a man of my word- I don't lie. And everybody that truly knows me knows I don't talk shit. Some of the stuff I say might be off the wall and unbelievable but if you sit back and watch, it happens."
Otherwise Long's blowing scenes out the door like Toyotas.
"We're doing very, very well," he says. "As far as hardcore content, we can always handle more, but we've got a lot on our plate."
Long's about ready to secure a softcore deal and says some of his competitors [like Loughlin in particular] is starting to feel the heat from all this.
"But he's decided to go the wrong route and try to come after us in the wrong ways. Only we're doing even better and we're going to show the whole industry our content is hundred times better quality, and that we shoot one hundred times more movies every couple of months than he does.
"We're going to start posting daily everything we shoot on all the boards- as samples. And people are going to get to see what's going on here. We're going to have a video tour coming out of the studio. We are permitted. We are insured. We are completely legal, and Jowe can throw all the stones out of his big fat fucking glass house that he wants."
"He's known as someone in the business that rips off girls," Long contends.
"He does the old, hey, come do a bunch of free scenes for me and I'll build you a website. He did it to Veronica Rayne. He did it to Nautica Thorn [Loughlin's former contract girl who later sued him], and he rips them off." Allededly.
"What he does in his content trade is that he's throwing them into a store and is selling them to a hundred different people," Long continues.
"He makes money off of content which, legally- as far as I'm concerned- really doesn't belong to him. The trade of a content trade is when I get a copy for my website and she gets a copy for hers. It's even trade. When you take a content trade and you scam a girl for it, tell her you're going to build a website- which he has for a couple of girls then told them they weren't getting any members- it's null and void; and I don't know why these girls have not gone after him for it."
"The content I have- we will never ever sell to anybody," Long insists. "If anything gets done with the content I've ever done a content trade with, will go on a site that I've built."
"Then we're also shooting a lot of our own stuff which I own outright," Long goes on to say.
"I've paid the girls their money, their scene rate and we might actually open a small content store to start. Or we might be opening our own websites with it- I'm not sure yet. Right now we're trying to concentrate on being a content provider. Our customers have demands and needs and we're going to fulfill them."
As only a realist can conclude, the DVD end of the business is shot. Long agrees.
"The DVD market's gone," he says. "And a lot of the guys are still stuck in DVD and will never get out of DVD."
Proof of what he was just saying, Long- Friday afternoon- was set to shoot Veronique Vega a Tahitian/Puerto Rican cutie doing a boy-girl and a handjob scene. Long gets a phone call from a new client who knew Vega was on set. The new client ordered, on the spot, two more scenes with Vegas- a BJ POV and solo. Long says this has been happening a lot.
"We're getting to the point that talent is going to love working for us," he states. "Because when they come to my set, it's better than being on a feature all day. Yeah, if I book you for four things you might be in here all day, but you're going to walk out with over $2,000 in your pocket in some cases.
"We're going to have some power in the industry as well because we're able to get talent on the set and they'll be able to walk of with a couple of grand. And that is something that not many people in this industry can compete with right now."
As ideal as this situation sounds, it's not always perfectly realized. Just the day before, Long had issues with Sky Taylor from Lisa Ann's agency.
Taylor was booked to do several MILF scenes. And, according to the way Long tells it, Taylor was asked to bring in some colorful, festive clothing for the holidays. She brings three black dresses. Long tries to explain how black and white outfits are the worst things you can bring with you to shoots. According to Long, even Taylor had to admit the black outfits weren't going to work.
"But she pitches a fit," says Long, noting that Taylor was late to the set 45 minutes to begin with. "She said her agent never told her that."
The fact that Taylor was supposed to bring something bright and colorful. Long then brought out some alternative wardrobe.
"She took a look at it and said I won't wear any of that, it's teenager stuff," Long relates. "Now she wants to go shopping."
Long's then on the phone with her agent. Taylor's on the phone with her agent. Long feels at this point he's bending over backwards for Taylor who apparently decides to cop an attitude about not doing the scenes at all.
"I asked her what the problem is," says Long. "She ignored me twice and decided she was going to leave and that she wanted her model releases back."
"Then she told me to go fuck myself and that she was going to call the cops," Long continues.
"I handed her my phone and told her to call them. Then she says I'll sue you. She took off and we lost a bunch of money because of her. Then she's bragging about how she travels from strip club to strip club.
"She's basically a street hooker with a car."
I have shot Sky Taylor before and she did great work.
I cant belive you are calling her a street hooker on the boards.. wow you are low.
"Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection." -- Author Unknown
LOL at Donny trying to spin things positive on page 5 of his latest train wreck thread...Donny thinks, maybe if I show them clips of me (wearing the same stupid puka shell necklace, hehe), they'll forgive all of my lies and inults.
Donny Long, you are a rat snitch, and pathetic chronic liar as has been well established.
In just about any other business you would have been banished or forced to slink away in disgrace by now.
You stand as the single most stupid person I have ever encountered in the adult industry, and you represent the worst in it.
Fortunately, there are many people of integrity in this biz as well - by your words and behavior, you have worn out your welcome with many of them.
Anyway, keep on self-destructing, I can't say it's not entertaining...
Did you see his site? What a piece of shit. The people around him are apparently scrambling to fix it, but it's pretty much a lost cause.
Donny must be winning lots of business with his train wreck web site - thinks he can impress with music he has not licensed, and content he did not shoot. Not to mention that his 2257 statement is still not legal...
I'm sure lots of companies will want to do business with a content producer that can't even get his own 2257 correct.
Did you see his site? What a piece of shit. The people around him are apparently scrambling to fix it, but it's pretty much a lost cause.
Donny must be winning lots of business with his train wreck web site - thinks he can impress with music he has not licensed, and content he did not shoot. Not to mention that his 2257 statement is still not legal...
I'm sure lots of companies will want to do business with a content producer that can't even get his own 2257 correct.
Did you see his site? What a piece of shit. The people around him are apparently scrambling to fix it, but it's pretty much a lost cause.
Donny must be winning lots of business with his train wreck web site - thinks he can impress with music he has not licensed, and content he did not shoot. Not to mention that his 2257 statement is still not legal...
I'm sure lots of companies will want to do business with a content producer that can't even get his own 2257 correct.
ADG
what is it going to take for you to just shut your mouth? your full of shit. First everything that has come out of your mouth is false! I have shot everything on my site asshole! and my 2257 is right asshole! Why dont you grow so balls and stop being a coward like joe and come over and stay it to my face asshole
what is it going to take for you to just shut your mouth? your full of shit. First everything that has come out of your mouth is false! I have shot everything on my site asshole! and my 2257 is right asshole! Why dont you grow so balls and stop being a coward like joe and come over and stay it to my face asshole
what is it going to take for you to just shut your mouth? your full of shit. First everything that has come out of your mouth is false! I have shot everything on my site asshole! and my 2257 is right asshole! Why dont you grow so balls and stop being a coward like joe and come over and stay it to my face asshole
Donkey, I have provided point by point back-up for everything I have said (using mostly your own words, idiot).
You have not refuted a single thing I wrote except to make stupid blanket comments like "it's bullshit". If I am quoting you, than how is it bullshit? Well, aside from the fact that it seems most of what comes out of your mouth is bullshit, LOL.
You want me to stop? Fine. Apologize for lying about me not paying models. I have called you out on this at least a half dozen times, and you can't provide a single name. That means you are a malicious liar.
Why would I waste my time to go there to say it to your face? You can't seem to comprehend it when it's in writing.
Anyway, regarding the 2257 on your web site, it is NOT in compliance with the law.
Here is what you list on donnylongproductions.com:
The owners and operators of this Website are either the primary or secondary producer, as that term is defined in 18 USC section 2257, 75.1 (c) 1-2, of the visual content contained in the Website. Please direct questions pertaining to content on this website to: Webmaster
The original records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. section 2257 and 28 C.F.R. 75 for materials contained in the website are kept by the appropriate Custodian of Records as follows:
Custodian of Records:
Donny Long Productions inc.
21110 Nordhoff st
And here is what you have for donnylong.com:
any questions email me here
I don't know why anyone would trust you shooting content when you clearly do not have a clue how to 2257 label your own sites properly.
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