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  • ManyQuestionsGuy
    Registered User
    • Dec 2007
    • 28

    #1

    About Billers.........

    I have done much reading regarding the different type of billers.

    CCBill, if I understand correctly, they charge 14.7 % to start, but all sales are paid? No chargebacks to worry about right? My goal would be to set up an independent site to sell "credits" to be used on my site, and plan to the processing cost to the final cost of my credits. For example 100 credits would be sold for $118, the $118 would cover the 14.7% that CCBill would charge for processing. Is there an average % of chargebacks that people use to make calculations? Some billers charge around 4% but they hit you for chargebacks, could I assume that charge backs will usually be less than 11% of my total sales?

    What other sites/programs are out there that offer something similar to CCBill?

    Epassporte, do they allow you to accept payments via them? According to their site they do, but when I call and ask what would be the % fee I get the run around. They tell me they will email me the information, but what I get is the same generic info telling me to call them to get an actual %fee as it changes by volume and type of business. I have called 3 times, and emailed them 4 times. Am I just unlucky, or they rather not get involved with adult sites hence they sortha just ignore my potential business?
  • KGucci
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2004
    • 653

    #2
    Please check out www.SegPay.com. We can help!

    Feel free to contact me directly.

    www.SegPay.com
    KGreer at SegPay dot com
    Skype: kgucci

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    • sunshynevideo
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2005
      • 360

      #3
      The folks over at Segpay are great to work with and fast answer your questions... Their billing system is pretty decent

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      • The Ghost
        IslandDollars.com
        • Oct 2004
        • 12188

        #4
        Is this an adult site (non tangible goods) you are talking about?


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        • ManyQuestionsGuy
          Registered User
          • Dec 2007
          • 28

          #5
          Originally posted by The Ghost
          Is this an adult site (non tangible goods) you are talking about?


          Where are you located (country)?

          Yes, this would be an adult site, non tangible goods. MOstly webcam shows. I am located in USA, some other owners would be located in MExico, and others in COlombia. We are in the process of deciding in which country we want to register the company. Cyprus maybe?

          Will contact Segpay in a few days, but what is good about them?

          I did try some searches to get answer to my questions, but by doing searches I couldn't come up with "good" info. I would like to learn and at the same time allow others to learn by being able to read posts, instead of having to contact each of the different service providers.

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          • Ben.Z
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2004
            • 1164

            #6
            ManyQuestionsGuy,

            I invite you to take a look at WTS (Web Transaction Services). We've been the number one ACH processing solution for adult webmasters for over 10 years now. I'd be more than happy to go over any details including specific rates with you.

            Drop me a line! I look forward to speaking with you.

            Kind Regards,
            Ben Zuckerman

            Account Manager
            Web Transaction Services
            Toll Free: 1(866)735-5987 ext.1168
            ICQ: 138827832
            Credit Card Processing for Adult Merchants

            Contact me: Ben Z. (ben|AT|CardReady.com) ICQ_138827832
            Toll Free: 1.888.398.6001 Ext.212

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            • NetCashJoe
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2007
              • 180

              #7
              Get in touch with me. NetCash Joe will get you hooked up at a great rate.
              NetCash Joe
              VP, Business Development

              ICQ: 418067109
              Email: [email protected]

              http://www.netcash.com



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              • MikeB
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2002
                • 2012

                #8
                Hi MQG,

                Please feel free to contact me. I can discuss the advantages of each processing region: US, EU or LAC. My contact info is below.

                Regards,

                Mike
                Last edited by MikeB; 12-07-2007, 09:21 AM.

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                • Wizzo
                  2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                  • Nov 2000
                  • 15224

                  #9
                  Your completely off base about CCbill and you won't find anyone to process adult at 4%...
                  Looking for Opportunity!

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                  • PaygeaGrl
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 537

                    #10
                    Higher volume merchants can get a direct account around 4%. the mid-smaller guys will pay about 5.0-7% for a direct mid.
                    Patricia Brandon
                    VP/Sales and Business Development
                    Paygea- EU and US Merchant Account option
                    EU Incorporation provided
                    Use our gateway, Netbilling, Rsbilling, or Jettis
                    [email protected]
                    ICQ: 470462755
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                    • Nad
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 503

                      #11
                      Jettis is a great biller.. been around for almost 10 years.. merchant account, gateway, ACH... everything that you need...

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                      • Jeffne
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 141

                        #12
                        Hi ManyquestionsGuy,

                        First I would like to point out that our fees for US clients starts at 14.5% not 14.7% and decreases as your weekly volume increases. Yes, you are right, we do not pass on the chargeback penalties.

                        I can be reached at [email protected], or icq 49584169 if you have additional questions about our services.

                        Thanks,

                        Jeff (CCBill)

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                        • ManyQuestionsGuy
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 28

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Wizzo
                          Your completely off base about CCbill and you won't find anyone to process adult at 4%...
                          Not sure what you mean about being completely off base....
                          "Hi ManyquestionsGuy,
                          First I would like to point out that our fees for US clients starts at 14.5% not 14.7% and decreases as your weekly volume increases. Yes, you are right, we do not pass on the chargeback penalties.
                          I can be reached at [email protected], or icq 49584169 if you have additional questions about our services.
                          Thanks,
                          Jeff (CCBill)"

                          So it is 14.5% not 14.7%, but other than that what did I miss?

                          I forget which biller I was looking at, but one did offer 4% plus .30 per transaction. They do hold money, up to 20% for chargebacks. Chargebaks worry me, as I have no idea up to what % usually comes back as chargebacks.

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                          • Rand
                            Industry Vet
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 2663

                            #14
                            Epoch has been offering third party billing services for over eleven years. We accept more forms of payment than our competitors and do not withhold a reserve fee on your transactions.

                            You can find out more about us at http://epoch.com/m_services.html

                            We would be happy to answer any questions you have. Contact us and let's see if we are a good fit for each other.
                            -- Rand


                            Payment Industry - Communications - Quality Assurance

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                            • ManyQuestionsGuy
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 28

                              #15
                              LOL well if anything I have found a handful of leads to research.

                              What is up with Epassporte? Do they, or don't they offer billing options?

                              Looking at the big pictures, billers are going to charge a low rate, but make me eat my own chargebacks, or charge a higher rate and eat the chargebacks for me, correct?

                              Is there some type of average chargebacks that can be expected? For those using billers with low % rates but no chargebacks protection, about how much do you usually "estimate" your chargebacks to be?

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