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A new Ferrari "California" model is $239,000.00 at the dealership here in Vegas.
http://www.penskewynnferrari.com/det...d-9040622.html
I was paying $1200 a month payments when I bought my 2007 corvette. It was around $70,000
So if I multiply those payments by 3 that would be a $3600 car payment per month. And THEN you have to get full coverage insurance. OUCH!
No...you could not earn $250,000 a year and buy a Ferrari and no do serious damage to your lifestyle.
Unless you lived in a rented singlewide trailer and didn't have any kids or a wife or pretty much any other expenses.
Wow. Some of you guys just have never made any money or even realize what it's like to live in the real world.-Robbie
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And by the way...since NONE of you will address it:
What does it matter?
The rich will still make their money off of capital gains. So no matter how much you raise the income tax rates it won't matter one tiny bit.
It's all about class warfare and getting the populist vote from people who don't understand that.
And the govt. is SPENDING 10.6 BILLION DOLLARS PER DAY.
Remember the Bill Clinton saying in 1992: "It's the economy stupid".
Well in 2012 it should be: "It's the SPENDING stupid"-Robbie
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The minte & 12clicks "good cop, bad cop" routine at work. It is a thing of beauty.
The rest of you should be in awe.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!
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Last edited by crockett; 09-27-2012, 10:50 AM.In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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hahahaha, don't project chump.
you're one of life's losers looking to get a pound of flesh from your betters.
when I was poor like you are, I never worried about what other people had or earned. I worried about what I had and earned. odd how you're still you but I've moved on.
you're trash.
you always will be.
thats the difference between success and failure.I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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Lol not a new ferrari every year. I meant you buy it on lease and drive for the next 5 or 10 years. Like Robbie said lease would be 3600$, so ok add everything to 50K year, ok 60, 70 whatever. Yo ustill have 180k/year to live on. Thats king like.
Somebody posted that average american HOUSEHOLD (not even individual) lives on 44k/year. So thats average living. After you lease a ferrari you still have 5 TIMES more than average household. Its not really even possible to spend that much, you would be buying real estate for investmenet here and there if you wanted to spend that amount.Last edited by mineistaken; 09-27-2012, 11:05 AM.Comment
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I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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Whether $250K is rich or not is a pretty relative statement. A lot of it depends on where you live and what your life is like.
A single guy making $250K and living somewhere that has a very low cost of living could live a life that is very comfortable and feels "rich".
A guy who is married and has a few kids and lives in an expensive city like San Fran or New York might find $250K is barely enough to get by.Comment
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fool, even if thats 175k after taxes after leasing that ferrari you still have more money than 2 average households. I ma not saying that you have to buy ferrari, I am saying taht you can easily afford it and still have more money than 2 average households. Just a perspective to see what is 250k/year.Comment
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The difference between being a chump & being 12clicks is the chump knows when he is being trolled and 12clicks doesn't. I guess the other difference is I don't feel the need to brag about what I've done. I guess my dick is big enough and I'm happy with my life.. I can assume the opposite for yourself.Last edited by crockett; 09-27-2012, 11:26 AM.In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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ah, no. you're wrong. as I said, imagining what you can buy with $250k a year is vastly different than what you can ACTUALLY buy.
and no, you never said, "aht you can easily afford it and still have more money than 2 average households"
you said you could afford it with no effect to your standard of living.
be about it before you talk about it. it makes you look less silly.
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i dont mind paying only if it works by doing so
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It's class warfare to ask the rich to pay what they paid 12 years ago, but not class warfare to talk about cutting welfare benefits. Aint that a peach.43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
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LOL, great comments.
What Minte doesn't understand is that he didn't build his business. His business was built on the work of his employees. If it wasn't for the people working for him he wouldn't be in business.
Minte wants us to tax him and his business less and put the bulk of the tax responsibility on the bulk of the people that barely clear $50k a year. Minte thinks if we tax him less he'll be encouraged to hire another person making $50k a year while he makes another $400k off of this new employee's work, which is pointless - Minte will still have money to blow no matter what.
Minte has it backwards. I don't hire and fire people based on tax breaks, but instead on need. If I need to hire two people to complete a task in six months I hire two people; I don't wait until it's going to be beneficial tax wise before hiring people. At the same time, if we double the amount of taxes Minte is paying and lower the taxes that his employees making $50k a year pay, chances are he'll still buy that fancy new car he was planning to buy and still take that vacation and all of his employees will be making more money and spending more money - which in turn generates more tax dollars and more money pumped into the economy. Win win.Herschel Savage
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Great Post!How about just cut spending and bring our troops home and quit fighting wars everywhere when nobody has attacked us.
End the drug war. Stop pork barrel spending.
The govt. is spending 10.6 BILLION dollars per day. And borrowing almost 4 BILLION of that every damn day.
How can you justify such a thing?
We are not at war with anybody. Our country hasn't been invaded since the War of 1812. WE do the invading since then.
What is raising taxes on the wealthiest people by 4 or 5 % going to do? Nothing. Absolutely NOTHING.
Not only that...but ALL of those wealthiest people (including Warren Hypocrite Buffet) make the majority of their money on Capital Gains. So sure...go ahead and raise the income tax rate. They still won't pay one thin dime more.
The whole premise is stupid and is designed for the Obama campaign to get a populist vote from people who just can't stand that somebody else has it better than them. It's class warfare plain and simple.
Cut the spending. How can anybody in this thread possibly justify 10.6 BILLION dollars a day in spending??? You can't. And none of you ever address it. You just stay on the Democrat talking points. And those against taxes stay on the Republican talking points. It's all deception.
The Feds are spending more money than I can even wrap my head around.
Isn't Romney supposed to be "filthy" rich? What's he worth..a couple hundred million dollars?
Well the Federal govt. is spending 6.85 million dollars PER MINUTE. Wrap your heads around that.
So in 29 minutes the federal govt. spends the same amount of Romney's entire wealth.
And Romney is the "filthy" rich one who didn't really "earn" his money? lol
NO! It's not rich people who are the problem. The feds are the filthiest and the richest.
When I was a little kid in the 60's and a teen in the 70's, my generation was taught to NEVER trust govt.
But it seems that the next generation just LOVES them some government. Sad.
I'd like some freedom
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/.
They have us fighting over a few dollars and percents, when none of that Matters.
What do you thin the Gov is going to do with the extra money it gets from raising the rates on the Rich??? I will tell you ......SPEND IT.Comment
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I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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and with that, my visit to trollville is over.
its an ugly reminder to continue to do well.I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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Thanks for putting the troll in trollville. Come again.43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.Comment
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minte - a rich delusional fucktard so out of touch with reality his biggest drama his is 600 page mercedes manual - seriously - what a fuckin tool
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using the term betters is class warfare, troll.
what going is making poor people pay taxes they can't afford going to do anyways? its just going to make them even poorer. the ultra rich already view poor people as cannon fodder or peasants so why should poor people view the ultra rich in any good terms at all or want to do anything that benefits them? in the end they're still wage slaves. just because someone isn't smart enough or whatever life situations prevent them from being successful, be it self inflicted or other doesn't make them any less of a human being. in the end the rich need a good segment of population to be poor. society just wouldn't work as they need it to otherwise.you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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Pubes or Dummycrats, their only goal is to enrich themselves, their families, and make sure they burrow so deep into the tax payer they remain in office as long as possible and make govt' bigger so they get more of everything.
Till you children come to that understanding you are just being played for idiots.
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You never hear of a senator, president or congressman leaving congress with less wealth or even the same wealth as when they came in. That should tell you enough.
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Any of the people that we employ can start their own business whenever they want. Over the years a few have and have done alright.
Why would it be my concern at how people on the lower or the higher end of the payscale wants to live? Everyone makes choices. Some decide they need or want wealth. Others decide that at 5 on friday they want to be done working and get a 12 pack of beer.
The observation I have made over the years is that bleeding heart liberals are always ready and willing to spend someone elses money.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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Ben, do you have tourettes syndrome? You come across as a complete pathetic idiot.
You have no idea what it takes to run a company. That is the reason you are poor. I share a little humor about a 600 page manual and you think that's what I do all day. Your comments are so ridiculous that I won't even bother trying to educate you.
You can thank god that the world needs ditchdiggers.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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Not a coincidence that you can always tell who the employees are and who the employers are based on their position on these issues.
Employees don't building companies.
If that was the case, you could just walk down to the soup kitchen, grab a bunch of stragglers and build the next Microsoft and everyone here would be a billionaire. Thats all it takes apparently..
Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.
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Steve Jobs had all the talent in the world, including the ability to lead a company and find great talent. Obviously a business needs employees - that doesn't mean employees make a company happen or make a business successful. I can sweep a floor and we can all argue that I couldn't have done it without the broom, however, I could grab any broom and do an excellent job, because that's who I am. The broom does not deserve 1/2 of the credit. The broom is just a tool and one that is easily replaceable..
Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.
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What I dont understand is Minte is this millionaire, super successful businessman.But he comes to hang out on GFY. Makes no sense. I have had more exposure to the working rich than most and they didnt waste time.Comment
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You are doing way too much uninformed speaking on my behalf. As long as I have known you, you have worked for someone. And I am certain in your mind you were grossly underpaid. The question begs to be asked..
Why didn't you start your own thing? And if you did, why wasn't it successful?
To keep it in perspective, I am not asking anyone to lower my taxes. I stated, I thought,clearly that raising taxes exclusively on people making over $250k annually is wrong. It will be wasted just like most of the money we pay now. If you want to argue that I am wrong, look up what the government pays daily in interest on the $16T debt.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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That's the way it appears to me too.
No offense against Rochard...but THAT is the big question isn't it?
Since everybody thinks it's so easy to be "rich"...then why don't those same people go out and do it themselves instead of working for a salary?
And back to the REAL topic:
Can ANYBODY on here who is FOR raising taxes on the rich...please explain HOW that is going to help get us out of debt?
If they raise the income tax rate it still will NOT RAISE TAXES ON THE RICH BECAUSE THEY EARN MONEY FROM CAPITAL GAINS.
(by the way...Mitt Romney's tax plan for capital gains is to leave it at 15% for people like him. And for middle class people to lower it to ZERO which would help all of us invested in the stock market and our retirement plans. Obama wants to raise capital gains tax on EVERYONE)
And also....the govt. is SPENDING 10.6 BILLION DOLLARS A DAY.
6.8 MILLION DOLLARS PER MINUTE.
Now put those two thoughts together: The wealthiest will not pay one thin dime more with income tax rates raised because they earn capital gains + the govt. spends more in 29 minutes than Mitt Romney's entire net worth.
And then tell me WHY you would want to raise taxes?
Hell...why are so many people these days sucking up to the federal govt? Jesus! They are all getting rich and funneling money back and you idiots want to give them MORE????Last edited by Robbie; 09-27-2012, 04:01 PM.-Robbie
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Playing golf, sailing ,going for an afternoon flight are all wastes of time.
In the 11 years I have been a member here I have under 5000 posts. If you are questioning anything beyond me wasting a few minutes of time here once and a while, come to Wisconsin. I would be happy to give you a golfcart tour of my new plant.Last edited by Minte; 09-27-2012, 04:18 PM.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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Who said it was easy to be rich? Who really believes its easy not having shit and having to worry will the lights stay on? What to get that big $300 in welfare? It cant be just a country of just owners it doesnt work. You need a strong middle class, thats what makes the economy work.
Robbie you are a smart man,do you think wars cost nothing? Home land security is free? See when you lower taxes during a time of war.Thats when your spending more.So you build up the debt quicker .And actually spending as gone down during Obama. I know in the imaginary right wing world he is just throwing cash out of windows. Also Robbie where were you when Dick Cheney was saying deficits dont matter? Didnt hear a sound from you or Minte. Debt is a like a rolling ball, it doesnt start at zero when the new president comes in. Also a the big one is W didnt have the war on the books, Obama put it on the books.Comment
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