Fucking Traffic Browkers. They Are *ALL* Scammers.

This thread rocks....great ideas here.

This thread rocks....great ideas here.

edit: nevermind.

comment would be over the head of many, so why bother.

HAHA! Tossing around the big bucks now, huh? Think of all the traffic that 8 bucks could have purchased. . .

but of course if you are stupid enough to send it to a blog or a paysite tour then you can't profit.

This thread rocks....great ideas here.

I personally think you're looking at "blogs" the wrong way also.

I see blogs as a mechanism to generate traffic, I don't see them as a "destination" for traffic.

To put my explanation another way...

The clickthrough ratio of the best thumbs on my TGPs usually peaks at about 6-7%. This means that for every 100 page loads, that particular thumb will be clicked by 6 or 7 people.

Apply that data to a single blog post and you can guess that you're probably wasting a lot of traffic.


Another way still (keep reading, I've got a possible solution)

If you had a blog titled "skinny russian chicks with shaved pussies and big tits posing outdoors" I might be interested, but that doesn't mean I'd like every girl. Out of 50 models/posts I might only think 1 or 2 are hot. Let the surfers decide what they like, not what you think they'll like. Send to your blog root page, or set up a pseudo TGP with thumbs that link to your posts. Or just do a thumb TGP full stop.

Why send it to the blog? Why not redirect it to the sponsor?

I know this is illogical, but Im trying to follow your logic here.
That's not a piss take. I just mean that if you are gonna send 100K to a blog page, which you want click thrus to the sponsor... Why not eliminate the blog page all together?

I can send you some of the most targeted traffic you will ever get...

But I can not MAKE it convert... and there lies the problem with some sites.

if the traffic was so good why would they sell it ? have you ever thought of that before ?

You only own two domains? What a pathetic piece of shit you are.

if the traffic was so good why would they sell it ? have you ever thought of that before ?

traffic brokers are hiding from this thread

*sigh*

First of all, that's not my only domain account, it's just one that I knew had my information stored so I could use it to register a domain quickly (for the joke) and not have to go find my wallet.

Second, since when did how many domains someone owns become the measure of thier worth? Most domains are worthless anyways.

I think it's hilarious that you come in here and admit that you buy traffic and lose money....and then dozens of people who buy traffic and make money from it come in here and try to tell you what you're doing wrong.....and you spend all of your time and energy arguing with us about why we're wrong....when you're the idiot who's losing money.

You need some serious help dude.

How, from where and how much? Looking at your sig, it looks like you offer something along the lines of a managed AdWords campaign? I might be interested, if it actually works. Hit me up and give me some more details.

I AM SOOOO ON THE SAME WAVE LINK AS THIS .. AND NOT TO BE A COPY CAT BUT FUCK THIS SOUNDS PERFECT ... I THINK THIS SHOULD BE THE NEW LAW OF THE INTERNET .. I AM COPYING THIS AND PASTING IT TO EVERY SINGLE DEAL OUT THERE .. I WILL PAY THROUGH THE NOSE FOR GOOD PROFITABLE TRAFFIC .. BUT SERIOUSLY SHIT TRAFFIC SHOULD BE REFUNDED ..

buying skimmed traffic for a blog is a mistake, its just garbage traffic, odds are they are going to close the window within 3 seconds because they were looking for something other than what they got

By the way, i didnt get my newspaper today. Is your bicycle broken?

I'm sure brokers will be falling over each other in the rush to provide you with traffic, knowing that they're going to lose money if you're not satisfied. Good try!

*ALL* of you so-called Traffic Brokers are SCAMMERS.

I have bought from a long list of you. None of you have ever given me conversions that were sufficient enough to generate a profit. I am tired of seeing ratios of 1:100K and other similar crap. The cost of your traffic is not worth the price I pay for it. Your traffic is not worth shit if I spend more money buying it than I get from the sales it generates. And of course, all of you, when you make your little sales pitches, tell me stupid things like "I have one guy converting at 1:150" and other such crap.

So here is the new deal for all of you fucking scammers that keep hitting me up on the IMs wanting to sell me your worthless "traffic":

1. I will buy 100K hits of your "traffic" and I will point it to one of my blogs (gay or straight). If it converts at a rate where I have turned a profit, then you get to keep your money and I'll buy more.

2. I will only pay by credit card or PayPal until you have proven that you are not selling me shit.

3. I wont ask you where your traffic comes from because it doesn't matter. Not that any of you know anyway. I have tried asking where you get your traffic before so I can attempt to screen out the people selling gold-plated turds, but quickly learned that none of you even know where your fucking traffic comes from. But no problem, it doesn't matter. All that matters is how or if it performs.

If your traffic fails to turn a profit, you'll have the following three options (and this will be in our agreement, up fucking front) and there will be no exceptions, even if you have some customer telling you he is converting at 1:20.

1. You can send me another 100K hits at no cost and *if* it that batch converts at a ratio that is sufficient for me to make a profit, then that will be that. From then on out, I will buy your traffic at the rate I paid you for 100K hits, but I will get 200k hits because thats all its worth, as was clearly demonstrated by the test we just conducted. If it takes you sending 700K hits before you turn a profit for me, then I will pay the 100k hits rate and get 700k hits.

2. You can give me a refund and that will be that. I'll add you to my long list of people peddling shit that is not worth shit.

3. If you do not issue the refund or send more traffic, I will charge it back.

So come on, traffic brokers. Prove to me that just one of you runs a legitimate business. I don't think any of you can do it. Like I said at the beginning of this thread, you're all scammers. Selling a worthless product that is misrepresented and dishonestly peddled.

Now I am sure one of you is thinking "Hey, no fair! You just took the scam out of it!" Yeah, no shit. I am tired of buying shit and I am not going to do it anymore. And anyone that doesn't want to play along, can keep their fucking shit, opps, I mean, traffic.

What else can you do with it?

To me, that says that most of the traffic is fucking bots and fake traffic.

I don't see why traffic coming from a TGP should't work on a blog.

Obviously if I am buying traffic its because I want more than what the SEs are giving me ATM.

It's so god damn simple. Not everyone has brain enough to generate money using traffic broker traffic.

I have seen plenty of guys turning it to profit in many creative ways but of course if you are stupid enough to send it to a blog or a paysite tour then you can't profit

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You got to be creative and think outside the box, I mean really outside the box.

Come on, it's not exactly a secret that traffic brokers charge more for traffic than the traffic is worth to an average webmaster...

Buying traffic is a skill. Buying traffic from brokers and learning how to convert it is even more difficult.

why do you think they sell their traffic? if it converted they would jsut send it to their affiliate links for aff or whoever.

If it was worth anything they wouldn't be selling it

if the traffic was so good why would they sell it ? have you ever thought of that before ?

What else can you do with it? There is nothing else you can do with it.

Other than send it to a blog?

Plenty.

I could write a book on all the techniques I and others have used to make productive use of paid traffic, and believe me over the last 7+ years I have bought thousands worth.

I can think of very few instances where I would send paid traffic directly to a blog. None involve adult.

I'm not saying you are guilty of this, but some idiots think it's as simple as slapping some banners and links to FHG's on a site and it will be enough to magically convert traffic purchased from brokers. Such idiots don't have the wherewithal to realize that maybe it is they who don't know how to convert traffic to signups and instead blame the brokers, call them scammers etc.

Buying traffic and actually putting it to work for you is a science, and learning that science is on you the buyer, not the broker.

Its a worthless product. They know its worthless and so do I.

It's a well known fact that 93.7% of all 'webmasters' will never make any real money.
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Yeah that's why you should never buy google adwords...if google's traffic was worth anything why would they sell it?

</sarcasm>

but other new ones come to replace them.

post proof of traffic you purchased from a broker and turned profit. Waiting .....

You missed his point entirely. But I'm glad to see you put a lot of thought into how hard the surfers dick is!

Right. I know alot are going to go away, maybe even most. Thats to be expected. Less than a couple of hundred went off my site and into the tours or FHGs at the sponsor, the number that actually made it to the signup page was like 12. No signups. To me, that says that most of the traffic is fucking bots and fake traffic.

I am not an idiot. . . . For that matter, I don't see much difference between a blog and a TGP.

So let's recap on the last year or so with minusonebit:

1) Can't understand how Epassporte works and ends up getting canned there.
2) Threatens to sue Epassporte but does nothing about it.
3) Spreads private information of more than 300 webmasters with his blog in hopes of a few extra ad word pennies.
4) Offers his writing services at less than third world outsource prices. You get what you pay for.
5) Can't understand how a TGP is different than a blog.

Stunning success my man, stunning success!

You'll be waiting a long fucking time for me to show you how I make my money noob.

Besides, even if I was willing to do something like that, which I'm not, all I'd be able to post is a screenshot of what, my sponsor stats and maybe a receipt from the traffic broker...like that's proof of anything?

Besides that....the point of brokered traffic (the type we're talking about in this thread) isn't to directly monetize it...it's to feed traffic to a site that will grow based on trades.

You can't really monetize blind thumbnail traffic....of course traffic like that will convert at 1 in 100K or worse if you send it directly to a sales page.

You just got RudeBoy ....................................

Yeah a "webmaster" who has to hotlink pictures from imageshack really "owned" me.

Whatever punk, come back when you can afford to buy a clue.