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  • AdultKing
    Raise Your Weapon
    • Jun 2003
    • 15601

    #2801
    Originally posted by dgraves
    It must have become too much work to be compliant and a lot easier/cheaper to ignore.
    It won't be cheaper or easier in the long run.

    Complying with takedown notices in an expeditious manner is the bare minimum we require of sites.

    Site owners are ultimately responsible for the content they host and will be held accountable for permitting systemic infringements.

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    • topnotch, standup guy
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2008
      • 1562

      #2802
      Originally posted by dgraves
      I found a bunch of my content on pornbb and all the users were praising the upload monkey for such a great job and even referred to him as a "King". It's impressive that he mastered the right-click and "Save As...".
      It really is amazing what a good trainer can teach a monkey to do.


      Originally posted by dgraves
      After further research, I can clearly see the effectiveness of AK's work and that is impressive.
      AK should be voted GFY webmaster of the year
      A hard dick has no conscience.

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      • dgraves
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2005
        • 2283

        #2803
        Originally posted by AdultKing
        It won't be cheaper or easier in the long run.

        Complying with takedown notices in an expeditious manner is the bare minimum we require of sites.

        Site owners are ultimately responsible for the content they host and will be held accountable for permitting systemic infringements.
        According to the info I found, Netvillage is located in Germany so what's stopping them from telling content owners to go pound sand?
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        • AdultKing
          Raise Your Weapon
          • Jun 2003
          • 15601

          #2804
          Originally posted by dgraves
          According to the info I found, Netvillage is located in Germany so what's stopping them from telling content owners to go pound sand?
          It's hard to run a site without an income.

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          • dgraves
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2005
            • 2283

            #2805
            Originally posted by AdultKing
            It's hard to run a site without an income.
            I mean, if they don't have to comply with DMCA then what are the options?

            I was surprised to see rapidgator using American Express as a processor.
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            • AlexShark
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2003
              • 477

              #2806
              Originally posted by DWB
              Better and cheaper health care, cheaper living, cheaper property, better quality of life, more opportunity, better food, very few laws, and you get to more or less do what you want to do with no hassle from anyone.
              ... and shopping malls packed with illegal copies of software, mp3s, movies etc

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              • AdultKing
                Raise Your Weapon
                • Jun 2003
                • 15601

                #2807
                Originally posted by dgraves
                I mean, if they don't have to comply with DMCA then what are the options?

                I was surprised to see rapidgator using American Express as a processor.

                Very few of the sites we have taken action against have to deal with DMCA. However this doesn't mean that copyright law is null and void.

                Sites in every jurisdiction can face sanction for infringing content.

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                • dgraves
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 2283

                  #2808
                  Originally posted by AdultKing
                  Very few of the sites we have taken action against have to deal with DMCA. However this doesn't mean that copyright law is null and void.

                  Sites in every jurisdiction can face sanction for infringing content.
                  That's good news. How are content owners dealing with sites/hosts that don't comply with take-down requests?
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                  • His Infernal Majesty
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 469

                    #2809
                    Originally posted by dgraves
                    That's good news. How are content owners dealing with sites/hosts that don't comply with take-down requests?
                    http://oron.com/ lol

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                    • SKUP
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 400

                      #2810
                      Originally posted by Triple-A
                      bump for Rapidgator's swift demise! *eventually*

                      "Thanks for bringing the sites rapidgator.net to our attention.

                      We have been able to establish the processor for rapidgator.net and will contact them immediately to discontinue accepting our cards on this site"

                      Just a quote from an email (from a credit card company) we received yesterday.

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                      • MrDeiz
                        • May 2008
                        • 9802

                        #2811
                        Originally posted by SKUP
                        "Thanks for bringing the sites rapidgator.net to our attention.

                        We have been able to establish the processor for rapidgator.net and will contact them immediately to discontinue accepting our cards on this site"

                        Just a quote from an email (from a credit card company) we received yesterday.
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                        • Nautilus
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 1631

                          #2812
                          Originally posted by SKUP
                          Just a quote from an email (from a credit card company) we received yesterday.
                          That's great. Was it Amex or MC?
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                          • AdultKing
                            Raise Your Weapon
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 15601

                            #2813
                            The following 34 file lockers have had Paypal terminated.

                            file4safe.com
                            ortofiles.com
                            orangefiles.me
                            yourcellular.net
                            gigsfile.com
                            xurcun.info
                            divxbase.com
                            tishare.com
                            kupload.org
                            unlimitshare.com
                            migaload.com
                            tishare.com
                            thexyz.net
                            brontofile.com
                            datei.to
                            d-h.st
                            remixshare.com
                            videozer.com
                            file-bit.net
                            limelinx.com
                            netuploaded.com
                            auexport.com
                            carrier.so
                            ydownload.org
                            zedupload.com
                            midupload.com
                            boosterking.com
                            xfilesharing.ca
                            DynaUpload.com
                            Neoxfiles.com
                            filesega.com
                            bigupload.com
                            Uploader.pl
                            uploadur.com

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                            • Shap
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2001
                              • 8313

                              #2814
                              Originally posted by AdultKing
                              The following 34 file lockers have had Paypal terminated.

                              file4safe.com
                              ortofiles.com
                              orangefiles.me
                              yourcellular.net
                              gigsfile.com
                              xurcun.info
                              divxbase.com
                              tishare.com
                              kupload.org
                              unlimitshare.com
                              migaload.com
                              tishare.com
                              thexyz.net
                              brontofile.com
                              datei.to
                              d-h.st
                              remixshare.com
                              videozer.com
                              file-bit.net
                              limelinx.com
                              netuploaded.com
                              auexport.com
                              carrier.so
                              ydownload.org
                              zedupload.com
                              midupload.com
                              boosterking.com
                              xfilesharing.ca
                              DynaUpload.com
                              Neoxfiles.com
                              filesega.com
                              bigupload.com
                              Uploader.pl
                              uploadur.com
                              Wow nice job!

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                              • SKUP
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 400

                                #2815
                                Is it Saturday already? Wow, time flies

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                                • SKUP
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2011
                                  • 400

                                  #2816
                                  Originally posted by Nautilus
                                  That's great. Was it Amex or MC?
                                  Can't tell yet, but just a matter of time.

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                                  • DWB
                                    Registered User
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 31779

                                    #2817
                                    Originally posted by AdultKing
                                    The following 34 file lockers have had Paypal terminated.

                                    file4safe.com
                                    ortofiles.com
                                    orangefiles.me
                                    yourcellular.net
                                    gigsfile.com
                                    xurcun.info
                                    divxbase.com
                                    tishare.com
                                    kupload.org
                                    unlimitshare.com
                                    migaload.com
                                    tishare.com
                                    thexyz.net
                                    brontofile.com
                                    datei.to
                                    d-h.st
                                    remixshare.com
                                    videozer.com
                                    file-bit.net
                                    limelinx.com
                                    netuploaded.com
                                    auexport.com
                                    carrier.so
                                    ydownload.org
                                    zedupload.com
                                    midupload.com
                                    boosterking.com
                                    xfilesharing.ca
                                    DynaUpload.com
                                    Neoxfiles.com
                                    filesega.com
                                    bigupload.com
                                    Uploader.pl
                                    uploadur.com
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                                    • DWB
                                      Registered User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 31779

                                      #2818
                                      Originally posted by SKUP
                                      "Thanks for bringing the sites rapidgator.net to our attention.

                                      We have been able to establish the processor for rapidgator.net and will contact them immediately to discontinue accepting our cards on this site"

                                      Just a quote from an email (from a credit card company) we received yesterday.
                                      good stuff.

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                                      • Axeman
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 5201

                                        #2819
                                        Originally posted by SKUP
                                        "Thanks for bringing the sites rapidgator.net to our attention.

                                        We have been able to establish the processor for rapidgator.net and will contact them immediately to discontinue accepting our cards on this site"

                                        Just a quote from an email (from a credit card company) we received yesterday.
                                        That is excellent news!
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                                        • Tjeezers
                                          Webmaster
                                          • Mar 2007
                                          • 16603

                                          #2820
                                          bump fuckerdie bump

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                                          • krylon
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2004
                                            • 225

                                            #2821
                                            bump for some great progress!!!
                                            To all webmasters. Use a reputable IP Enforcement company such as Nate Glass's Take Down Piracy. They operate within the law, and don't work with hackers, nor have ties to CP as Robert King and his copy-control company do.

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                                            • Captain Kawaii
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Oct 2007
                                              • 6748

                                              #2822
                                              Bump for AK Love

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                                              • Mutt
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Sep 2002
                                                • 34431

                                                #2823
                                                amazing - you can't buy a premium subscription to any of these big file lockers with Paypal now.

                                                on the downside, i really don't think it will translate into an increase of sales to paysites. there are lots of factors that went into killing the paysite biz.
                                                I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                • topnotch, standup guy
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2008
                                                  • 1562

                                                  #2824
                                                  imageporter.com

                                                  An image host that pays the upload monkeys on a per view basis and has no posted DMCA contact info whatsoever.

                                                  Maybe someone should upload a blasphemous picture of the prophet Mohammad onto there and then post the link onto all of the file sharing forums




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                                                  Last edited by topnotch, standup guy; 09-15-2012, 09:00 AM.
                                                  A hard dick has no conscience.

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                                                  • Tjeezers
                                                    Webmaster
                                                    • Mar 2007
                                                    • 16603

                                                    #2825
                                                    Happy Bump day to me

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                                                    • dgraves
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                      • 2283

                                                      #2826
                                                      Any news on RapidGator? I have one jackass on pornbb uploading my stuff daily and would love to see him shut down.
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                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                        Too old to care
                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                        • 52942

                                                        #2827
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                                                        • DWB
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 31779

                                                          #2828
                                                          Originally posted by topnotch, standup guy
                                                          imageporter.com

                                                          An image host that pays the upload monkeys on a per view basis and has no posted DMCA contact info whatsoever.

                                                          Maybe someone should upload a blasphemous picture of the prophet Mohammad onto there and then post the link onto all of the file sharing forums
                                                          There is more than one way to skin a cat.

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                                                          • AdultKing
                                                            Raise Your Weapon
                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 15601

                                                            #2829
                                                            Originally posted by dgraves
                                                            Any news on RapidGator? I have one jackass on pornbb uploading my stuff daily and would love to see him shut down.
                                                            We're working on a whole lot of sites, RapidGator is just one.

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                                                            • Triple-A
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2012
                                                              • 535

                                                              #2830
                                                              Originally posted by topnotch, standup guy
                                                              imageporter.com

                                                              An image host that pays the upload monkeys on a per view basis and has no posted DMCA contact info whatsoever.

                                                              Maybe someone should upload a blasphemous picture of the prophet Mohammad onto there and then post the link onto all of the file sharing forums




                                                              .
                                                              I used their contact page and sent a DMCA that way.
                                                              Images got taken down after a few days.
                                                              My upload monkeys have stopped using this shitty image hoster
                                                              Do they still use Paypal? Haven't looked for a while, they were using them though...
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                                                              • dgraves
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                • 2283

                                                                #2831
                                                                Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                We're working on a whole lot of sites, RapidGator is just one.
                                                                Sounds good man! I stopped looking a long time ago and I'm going to pay someone to chase them down with DMCA's. It's too time consuming and it just pisses me off.
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                                                                • BrainwashBucks
                                                                  Registered User
                                                                  • Sep 2010
                                                                  • 77

                                                                  #2832
                                                                  Thanks!

                                                                  Thanks to everybody who has had some part in bringing down so many of the file lockers. We are a super tiny company, and produce some VERY niche content, so it hit us really hard. I just wanted to recount one story and show you something you might find...funny?

                                                                  One of our big things is tickling. This guy was posting basically every video us and every other "major" tickling producer (as major as tickling production gets) would put out. Some guy who we think is in Russia. He went through a few different file lockers until he found the "best one" for being annoying to DMCA - MegaUpload (in his opinion). He got slowed down pretty hard by Degban, but kept going, but eventually when MegaUpload got shut down, he shut down for good - we thought.

                                                                  He came back with a private torrent site, hosted on Ecatel (they don't give a shit about anything, much less DMCA) using public trackers.

                                                                  I'm not sure if it's bad manners to post the link to his site - it's full of pirated tickling videos - but his hubris, and the outpouring of fawning thanks from his fans is so ridiculous I just wanted to show somebody:

                                                                  EDIT: I removed the link because I'm not sure if it's allowed to post it. If it is, I'd like to -- his "About" page and comment section are ridiculous.

                                                                  It starts "In the beginning of 2012 to all filehostings war has been declared. Megaupload has been destroyed by U.S. federal authorities."

                                                                  As far as I can tell, there's pretty much nothing that can be done when videos are pirated like this. None of the private trackers that are used will do anything (of course), and things like torrent poisoning look way beyond the ability of anything but a major company with a lot of resources (like HBO did). At least torrents are more cumbersome...
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                                                                  • dgraves
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                                    • 2283

                                                                    #2833
                                                                    Degban is the company I'm talking to right now to take care of my uploaded content. I heard they do a pretty good job.

                                                                    It's like any crime, there's not way to completely stop it, all we can do is manage it.

                                                                    It's extremely frustrating when it's one douche bag that's causing most of the problems. It's the 80/20 rule.
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                                                                    • AdultKing
                                                                      Raise Your Weapon
                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 15601

                                                                      #2834
                                                                      Originally posted by dgraves
                                                                      Degban is the company I'm talking to right now to take care of my uploaded content. I heard they do a pretty good job.

                                                                      It's like any crime, there's not way to completely stop it, all we can do is manage it.

                                                                      It's extremely frustrating when it's one douche bag that's causing most of the problems. It's the 80/20 rule.
                                                                      Degban will happily charge you money but they will have little effect.

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                                                                      • dgraves
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                                        • 2283

                                                                        #2835
                                                                        Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                        Degban will happily charge you money but they will have little effect.
                                                                        Why do you say that? Which company would have effect?
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                                                                        • DamianJ
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                          • 15808

                                                                          #2836
                                                                          Originally posted by dgraves
                                                                          Why do you say that?
                                                                          Because Degban sell snake oil.

                                                                          Loads of companies will charge you several hundred dollars a month for a computer to send out DMCAs. Will it make ANY impact to your sales? No.

                                                                          Spend that money on improving your marketing, tour, testing, UX, customer service, anything really and you will see an measurable impact on your sales.

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                                                                          • Triple-A
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jul 2012
                                                                            • 535

                                                                            #2837
                                                                            Sadly I factor in time to monitor piracy myself now as well as all the other duties I do on a daily basis, it really pisses me off when a couple of individuals can cause so much damage!

                                                                            I'd rather spend the additional time marketing my site instead
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                                                                            • dgraves
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                                              • 2283

                                                                              #2838
                                                                              Originally posted by Triple-A
                                                                              Sadly I factor in time to monitor piracy myself now as well as all the other duties I do on a daily basis, it really pisses me off when a couple of individuals can cause so much damage!

                                                                              I'd rather spend the additional time marketing my site instead
                                                                              I was doing this for awhile but it's just too time consuming and it's more cost effective to pay someone else to do the leg work. One company wants $400/month for both sites and another wants $750/month for both sites.

                                                                              It chaps my ass to have to pay for something like this. AK seems to be making pretty good progress and it's not nearly as bad as it use to be but still an issue. I might wait it out a little while to see where things go with file lockers.
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                                                                              • SplatterMaster
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jan 2012
                                                                                • 790

                                                                                #2839
                                                                                Originally posted by dgraves
                                                                                I was doing this for awhile but it's just too time consuming and it's more cost effective to pay someone else to do the leg work. One company wants $400/month for both sites and another wants $750/month for both sites.

                                                                                It chaps my ass to have to pay for something like this. AK seems to be making pretty good progress and it's not nearly as bad as it use to be but still an issue. I might wait it out a little while to see where things go with file lockers.
                                                                                Just sending out DMCA won?t stop your problem. You need to get into your raw logs and weed out the offenders. Yes, it?s a lot of work and very time consuming.

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                                                                                • chris99
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2010
                                                                                  • 298

                                                                                  #2840
                                                                                  Takedown Piracy Removes 10 Millionth Copyright Infringement

                                                                                  don't want to spam this thread, but do want to let everyone know the good news: takedown piracy has removed its 10 millionth copyright infringement.

                                                                                  in addition, tdp is ranked by google as the #1 infringement reporter against the pirate bay and most tube sites.

                                                                                  thought this was pretty cool info. i'll post more in the announcements section if you want to read.

                                                                                  chris

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                                                                                  • dgraves
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                                                    • 2283

                                                                                    #2841
                                                                                    Originally posted by chris99
                                                                                    don't want to spam this thread, but do want to let everyone know the good news: takedown piracy has removed its 10 millionth copyright infringement.

                                                                                    in addition, tdp is ranked by google as the #1 infringement reporter against the pirate bay and most tube sites.

                                                                                    thought this was pretty cool info. i'll post more in the announcements section if you want to read.

                                                                                    chris
                                                                                    Always good news!
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                                                                                    • AdultKing
                                                                                      Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                      • 15601

                                                                                      #2842
                                                                                      Originally posted by chris99
                                                                                      don't want to spam this thread, but do want to let everyone know the good news: takedown piracy has removed its 10 millionth copyright infringement.
                                                                                      And there's probably been 20 million to replace them.

                                                                                      DMCA is a circular process that does not cut to the core of the problem.

                                                                                      DMCA has it's place but is like putting a bandaid on a deep wound, it's also expensive for rights holders and after one year of using a DMCA agent the rights holders are in pretty much the same position as they were when they started.

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                                                                                      • topnotch, standup guy
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Mar 2008
                                                                                        • 1562

                                                                                        #2843
                                                                                        Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                        Because Degban sell snake oil.

                                                                                        Loads of companies will charge you several hundred dollars a month for a computer to send out DMCAs. Will it make ANY impact to your sales? No.

                                                                                        Spend that money on improving your marketing, tour, testing, UX, customer service, anything really and you will see an measurable impact on your sales.
                                                                                        A cynic would respond by telling you that better marketing will only result in more freetards searching for your content on file sharing forums and tubes.

                                                                                        And in doing so, that cynic would be at least half right
                                                                                        .
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                                                                                        • AdultKing
                                                                                          Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                          • 15601

                                                                                          #2844
                                                                                          It seems Netload have added credit card payments to their payment options, insecure, non SSL manually processed credit card payments.

                                                                                          Basically they accept credit card numbers into an insecure form with no sanity or number checking and then try to manually process them.

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                                                                                          • alcstrategy
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • May 2012
                                                                                            • 124

                                                                                            #2845
                                                                                            Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                            It seems Netload have added credit card payments to their payment options, insecure, non SSL manually processed credit card payments.

                                                                                            Basically they accept credit card numbers into an insecure form with no sanity or number checking and then try to manually process them.
                                                                                            If that is actually the case I think you can report it to visa or whatever card they take and get them investigated or fined for lack of pci compliance

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                                                                                            • AdultKing
                                                                                              Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 15601

                                                                                              #2846
                                                                                              Originally posted by alcstrategy
                                                                                              If that is actually the case I think you can report it to visa or whatever card they take and get them investigated or fined for lack of pci compliance
                                                                                              I doubt Netload will care, in any case a card company investigation is the very least of Netload's problems.

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                                                                                              • alcstrategy
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • May 2012
                                                                                                • 124

                                                                                                #2847
                                                                                                Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                I doubt Netload will care, in any case a card company investigation is the very least of Netload's problems.
                                                                                                Well the fines can be hefty and it's possible they can lose all merchant rights

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                                                                                                • AdultKing
                                                                                                  Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                  • 15601

                                                                                                  #2848
                                                                                                  Originally posted by alcstrategy
                                                                                                  Well the fines can be hefty and it's possible they can lose all merchant rights
                                                                                                  Providing they have a merchant facility in the first place, it's more than likely these card transactions are being processed through some other entity. We should know more about that in a few days.

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                                                                                                  • dgraves
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                                                                    • 2283

                                                                                                    #2849
                                                                                                    These guys are getting very desperate, good sign.
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                                                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
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                                                                                                      #2850
                                                                                                      Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                      I doubt Netload will care, in any case a card company investigation is the very least of Netload's problems.
                                                                                                      In two minds, report and get Netload hit or let some guy steal all the data and then downloaders find out to their cost.



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