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  • sake
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2002
    • 2648

    #1

    Is AVS dead? Anyone does it ?

    So is it dead or ppl are still making money with it in 2012?
  • Horny Dude
    Earn enough to buy coffee
    • May 2002
    • 4913

    #2
    I say dead. I think most of the AVS companies are belly up. I miss the AVS days.

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    • rogueteens
      So fucking bland
      • Jul 2006
      • 8005

      #3
      i still do it, i've been getting pretty good coversion ratios with my AVS sites.
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      • VenusBlogger
        So Fucking Banned
        • Nov 2011
        • 1540

        #4
        Depends.. there are not many systems left..

        Is AdultBouncer still around?

        Deluxepass died, same as adultsallowed, or jans.. What about pornaccess from joel? (gamma).

        Man, I used to have 1200 members in those networks, rebilling at 12-15 per month, just do the math. Really miss those days.

        Unfortunately sexkey (from the evil guy, linked to titan?) has no revshare option.

        I think a new AVS system should show up, but something more concentrated in unique fetish sites or such.. It would really work, seriously. It's just that people copy each other and one day someone said: Make all paysites like TUBE style and make AVS die, and all followed that path.

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        • Wizzo
          2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
          • Nov 2000
          • 15224

          #5
          Sexkey is still turning and burning!
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          • lucas131
            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
            • Aug 2004
            • 11475

            #6
            where the hell is my adultcheck gold id ...

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            • WebCashMaker
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2008
              • 1726

              #7
              Back in like 1999 we opened an AdultBouncer site, put some galleries on thehun and in a very short time had a lot of members.

              They we opened up our own paysite because it did'nt make sense to split the money with AdultBouncer. We redirected all our traffic to our own paysites and AdultBouncer asked us to come back. We did'nt have to since we were already converting and retaining our own members.

              I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.












              Mathieu




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              • lucas131
                ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                • Aug 2004
                • 11475

                #8
                Originally posted by WebCashMaker
                Back in like 1999 we opened an AdultBouncer site, put some galleries on thehun and in a very short time had a lot of members.

                They we opened up our own paysite because it did'nt make sense to split the money with AdultBouncer. We redirected all our traffic to our own paysites and AdultBouncer asked us to come back. We did'nt have to since we were already converting and retaining our own members.

                I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.












                Mathieu
                because you dont need to solve billing and tracking system?

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                • the Shemp
                  congrats to the winners
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 10891

                  #9
                  Originally posted by WebCashMaker
                  Back in like 1999 we opened an AdultBouncer site, put some galleries on thehun and in a very short time had a lot of members.

                  They we opened up our own paysite because it did'nt make sense to split the money with AdultBouncer. We redirected all our traffic to our own paysites and AdultBouncer asked us to come back. We did'nt have to since we were already converting and retaining our own members.

                  I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.


                  Mathieu
                  in the old days, it was definitely billing...being in canada, ccbill and epoch couldnt take us, so we had to use Sypro and Lancelot...when they went down, we went to Netverifier AVS and i still have sites there..
                  i use Vacares...so should you
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                  • VenusBlogger
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1540

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WebCashMaker
                    I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.

                    Mathieu
                    because for non-us or non-europe webmasters, its like impossible to open a PAYSITE...

                    You need to have a registered office and ADDRESS in Europe or USA to have CCBILL or EPOCH approve you.. otherwise forget it.

                    Not sure if there is some trick to register a UK LIMITED COMPANY for 300 bucks and there is a way to have an addrees of UK to register in EPOCH.. any ideas?

                    Well, if there is some trick nobody here will tell me, that's for sure... but im sure there must be some way.

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                    • edgeprod
                      Permanently Gone
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 10019

                      #11
                      SexKey is still on fire, as it has been for years.

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                      • TheSenator
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 13330

                        #12
                        I miss the AgeCheck vs AdultCheck war.

                        I made tons of cash of CyberAge back in the day.
                        ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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                        • Dirty F
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 59204

                          #13
                          Originally posted by VenusBlogger
                          because for non-us or non-europe webmasters, its like impossible to open a PAYSITE...

                          You need to have a registered office and ADDRESS in Europe or USA to have CCBILL or EPOCH approve you.. otherwise forget it.

                          Not sure if there is some trick to register a UK LIMITED COMPANY for 300 bucks and there is a way to have an addrees of UK to register in EPOCH.. any ideas?

                          Well, if there is some trick nobody here will tell me, that's for sure... but im sure there must be some way.
                          What the hell are you talking about?

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                          • garce
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 7103

                            #14
                            Originally posted by WebCashMaker
                            Back in like 1999 we opened an AdultBouncer site, put some galleries on thehun and in a very short time had a lot of members.

                            They we opened up our own paysite because it did'nt make sense to split the money with AdultBouncer. We redirected all our traffic to our own paysites and AdultBouncer asked us to come back. We did'nt have to since we were already converting and retaining our own members.

                            I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.

                            Mathieu
                            Never used AVS for my own content. I put sponsor (promo galleries) content behind the AVS. They were all cool with it as long as I had their links and banners on the front page and on any inside page. Upsells were amazing. Sponsors were happy to give me content to build AVS sites a loooong time ago.

                            The AVS from Topbucks - forget its name - was sort-lived, but it kicked ass. One Verify? Was that it? That AVS killed.

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                            • spankitmedia
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 146

                              #15
                              I never had any problems with AVS. I really liked their scraper. However, I think MechBunny is much more powerful
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                              • sake
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2002
                                • 2648

                                #16
                                Ok so from your replies i see it is still possible to do it.
                                We have tons of content and free man power so i was thinking about this...
                                What are best way to drag traffic to AVS these days ? Any good advice?

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                                • BIGTYMER
                                  Junior Achiever
                                  • Nov 2004
                                  • 17066

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sake
                                  Ok so from your replies i see it is still possible to do it.
                                  We have tons of content and free man power so i was thinking about this...
                                  What are best way to drag traffic to AVS these days ? Any good advice?
                                  The same way you drive traffic to any site. AVS doesn't require special traffic.

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                                  • 40obfam
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                                    • Oct 2009
                                    • 462

                                    #18
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                                    • JFK
                                      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 67369

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by TheSenator
                                      I miss the AgeCheck vs AdultCheck war.

                                      I made tons of cash of CyberAge back in the day.
                                      those were the days I was mainly concentrating on Adultcheck, but had sites with Agecheck/cyberage as well

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                                      • rogueteens
                                        So fucking bland
                                        • Jul 2006
                                        • 8005

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by spankitmedia
                                        I never had any problems with AVS. I really liked their scraper. However, I think MechBunny is much more powerful
                                        wrong AVS
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                                        • Evil Chris
                                          OG
                                          • Dec 2001
                                          • 13248

                                          #21
                                          Anyone wanting to learn more about AVS and how it's still a great model, just contact me.

                                          Funny thing is that it might be an older model, but more and more webmasters are finding it's "new again". Sexkey is a great way to protect your content, and at the same time make money on free joins and upsell your favorite site(s) at the same time.

                                          Contact me for a demo/examples/info.


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                                          • Evil Chris
                                            OG
                                            • Dec 2001
                                            • 13248

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by WebCashMaker
                                            Back in like 1999 we opened an AdultBouncer site, put some galleries on thehun and in a very short time had a lot of members.

                                            They we opened up our own paysite because it did'nt make sense to split the money with AdultBouncer. We redirected all our traffic to our own paysites and AdultBouncer asked us to come back. We did'nt have to since we were already converting and retaining our own members.

                                            I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.












                                            Mathieu
                                            You did that in 1999? "Mathieu" ?


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                                            • mineistaken
                                              See signature :)
                                              • Apr 2007
                                              • 29656

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by WebCashMaker
                                              I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.
                                              Mathieu
                                              What if you don't have enough content for paysite? Or do not want to dedicate your time for updates? Fr instance lets say you have 2 videos and 200 pictures of some chick. Paysite is not an option, but AVS is.

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                                              • edgeprod
                                                Permanently Gone
                                                • Mar 2004
                                                • 10019

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                What if you don't have enough content for paysite? Or do not want to dedicate your time for updates? Fr instance lets say you have 2 videos and 200 pictures of some chick. Paysite is not an option, but AVS is.
                                                I'm surprised you even dignified that idiotically stupid post with an answer. You're a better man than I!

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                                                • VenusBlogger
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Nov 2011
                                                  • 1540

                                                  #25
                                                  but sexkey doesn't pay you for REBILLING like a paysite.. or like adultbouncer or deluxepass did.

                                                  That was the MAGIC of keeping your members retention and having 1000 members rebilling each month.

                                                  Getting paid 20 bucks or whatever for a one time signup makes no sense for THE AFFILIATE (only for that EVIL GUY or TITAN or whatever the owner is), and you will never ever REACH that level you could reach with adultbouncer or others..

                                                  BTW, what happened to MOVIE TITAN? I know he was linked to sexkey few years ago, same as some ASIAN-CANADIAN girl managing that empire of TGPs like loli**movies.com and titan network...
                                                  Last edited by VenusBlogger; 09-12-2012, 11:02 AM.

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                                                  • bgersh104
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Sep 2012
                                                    • 15

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by WebCashMaker
                                                    Back in like 1999 we opened an AdultBouncer site, put some galleries on thehun and in a very short time had a lot of members.

                                                    They we opened up our own paysite because it did'nt make sense to split the money with AdultBouncer. We redirected all our traffic to our own paysites and AdultBouncer asked us to come back. We did'nt have to since we were already converting and retaining our own members.

                                                    I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.












                                                    Mathieu
                                                    Quoted for truth - even more so today then back then..

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                                                    • VenusBlogger
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Nov 2011
                                                      • 1540

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                      What the hell are you talking about?
                                                      Again.. It is pretty clear, lets paste it again:

                                                      because for non-us or non-europe webmasters, its like impossible to open a PAYSITE...

                                                      You need to have a registered office and ADDRESS in Europe or USA to have CCBILL or EPOCH approve you.. otherwise forget it.

                                                      Not sure if there is some trick to register a UK LIMITED COMPANY for 300 bucks and there is a way to have an addrees of UK to register in EPOCH.. any ideas?

                                                      Well, if there is some trick nobody here will tell me, that's for sure... but im sure there must be some way.

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                                                      • beks001
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Oct 2006
                                                        • 1837

                                                        #28
                                                        What is AVS? Can you break this down for the idiots like me that may not know what this is and how it's ran?
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                                                        • edgeprod
                                                          Permanently Gone
                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 10019

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by VenusBlogger
                                                          but sexkey doesn't pay you for REBILLING like a paysite.. or like adultbouncer or deluxepass did.
                                                          I'm assuming you're just trolling, and not really this stupid, but since SexKey is FREE for users, it'd be a bit tough for them to pay you for REBILLS, no? If you can't give away a FREE pass, you don't belong in this business.

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                                                          • tammix
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Apr 2006
                                                            • 2164

                                                            #30
                                                            Certifier AVS webmasters, step inside! LOL

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                                                            • VenusBlogger
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Nov 2011
                                                              • 1540

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                              I'm assuming you're just trolling, and not really this stupid, but since SexKey is FREE for users, it'd be a bit tough for them to pay you for REBILLS, no? If you can't give away a FREE pass, you don't belong in this business.
                                                              Why the attack man? Why so aggressive?

                                                              I'm being serious, as someone who has worked 10 years with all the AVS's in the business I know what I'm talking about...

                                                              REBILLING in AVS's is the way to go to build a long term and solid income.

                                                              ASK anyone here who has been involved in rebilling AVS systems... ASK the 8-baller guy that had his AVS in DELUXEPASS, Ask apornarchive guy that had 10,000 members rebilling each month in every single AVS system... Do the math and you will see.

                                                              SEXKEY doesn't offer that. For me it doesn't matter if it's 25 per free signup, I would make 5 times more money, if they offered Rebilling, let's say 29.95 and 14,95 rebills for me...
                                                              Last edited by VenusBlogger; 09-12-2012, 12:06 PM.

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                                                              • edgeprod
                                                                Permanently Gone
                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                • 10019

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by VenusBlogger
                                                                Why the attack man? Why so aggressive?
                                                                I'm not attacking you. I'm complimenting you, in a way -- that you couldn't possibly be as stupid as your comments would lead people to believe. It's like Paul Markham .. he's probably not an idiot, he just posts like one. You always think I'm being aggressive toward you. No one else has accused me of that; it's odd.


                                                                Originally posted by VenusBlogger
                                                                I'm being serious, as someone who has worked 10 years with all the AVS's in the business I know what I'm talking about...

                                                                REBILLING in AVS's is the way to go to build a long term and solid income.

                                                                ASK anyone here who has been involved in rebilling AVS systems... ASK the 8-baller guy that had his AVS in DELUXEPASS, Ask apornarchive guy that had 10,000 members rebilling each month in every single AVS system... Do the math and you will see.

                                                                SEXKEY doesn't offer that. For me it doesn't matter if it's 25 per free signup, I would make 5 times more money, if they offered Rebilling, let's say 29.95 and 14,95 rebills for me...
                                                                I've listened to your argument. Please allow me to retort:



                                                                The increased conversions of SexKey being free more than make up for the rebills, in my personal experience. I've been an AVS webmaster since 1996, and I'm "doubling down" .. no, "tripling down" with SexKey right now. Evil Chris convinced me to reconnect with the SK guys in a big way, and I'm in the nascent stages of scaling out a very ambitious project.

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                                                                • VenusBlogger
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Nov 2011
                                                                  • 1540

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Well man, that's your opinion... I'm convinced I can make more with rebills, In fact I made way more than what you list on your checks, with rebills...

                                                                  And I trust in a long term relationship with the surfer, who joins to your system and wants to stay there, thus you need to give them more content, movies and pictures and UPDATE your archive regularly with more content...

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                                                                  • edgeprod
                                                                    Permanently Gone
                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                    • 10019

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by VenusBlogger
                                                                    Well man, that's your opinion... I'm convinced I can make more with rebills, In fact I made way more than what you list on your checks, with rebills...

                                                                    And I trust in a long term relationship with the surfer, who joins to your system and wants to stay there, thus you need to give them more content, movies and pictures and UPDATE your archive regularly with more content...
                                                                    Post some checks up so we can drool over 'em. SexKey pays every 2 weeks, so if you're making more than $25k in a two-week period, you might just convince me to do it YOUR way.

                                                                    Looking forward to you showing us the light.

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                                                                    • kristin
                                                                      GOO!
                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 9768

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                                      Post some checks up so we can drool over 'em. SexKey pays every 2 weeks, so if you're making more than $25k in a two-week period, you might just convince me to do it YOUR way.

                                                                      Looking forward to you showing us the light.
                                                                      Post a more recent check.
                                                                      Vacares rules.

                                                                      "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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                                                                      • edgeprod
                                                                        Permanently Gone
                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                        • 10019

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by kristin
                                                                        Post a more recent check.
                                                                        Who writes checks anymore? Read my previous posts for my plan to renew my relationship with SexKey. Now that I'm out of my 6-year-long "exclusive" contract, I can promote whoever I want again, and SexKey is going to be my first stop! I feel like a huge weight has been lifted!

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                                                                        • brassmonkey
                                                                          Pay It Forward
                                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                                          • 77385

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by kristin
                                                                          Post a more recent check.
                                                                          thats 4 real
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                                                                          • Zoxxa
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2011
                                                                            • 1026

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by VenusBlogger
                                                                            Again.. It is pretty clear, lets paste it again:

                                                                            because for non-us or non-europe webmasters, its like impossible to open a PAYSITE...

                                                                            You need to have a registered office and ADDRESS in Europe or USA to have CCBILL or EPOCH approve you.. otherwise forget it.

                                                                            Not sure if there is some trick to register a UK LIMITED COMPANY for 300 bucks and there is a way to have an addrees of UK to register in EPOCH.. any ideas?

                                                                            Well, if there is some trick nobody here will tell me, that's for sure... but im sure there must be some way.

                                                                            Dude, just google "nominee director", it's not a trick, it's called business 101.
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                                                                            • VenusBlogger
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Nov 2011
                                                                              • 1540

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                                              Post some checks up so we can drool over 'em. SexKey pays every 2 weeks, so if you're making more than $25k in a two-week period, you might just convince me to do it YOUR way.

                                                                              Looking forward to you showing us the light.
                                                                              When you make some good money, you don't get paid via check...

                                                                              BTW, nobody answered my question, is TITAN still related to SEXKEY? And what about the Asian-Canadian girl?

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                                                                              • fuzebox
                                                                                making it rain
                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                • 22353

                                                                                #40
                                                                                I am convinced Venus Blogger is a fake nick. There's just no way.

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                                                                                • SeedyMedia
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Aug 2012
                                                                                  • 13

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by VenusBlogger
                                                                                  When you make some good money, you don't get paid via check...

                                                                                  BTW, nobody answered my question, is TITAN still related to SEXKEY? And what about the Asian-Canadian girl?
                                                                                  You`re thinking the xxxkey.com network I believe. Titan converted a number of his movie sites into tubes.

                                                                                  I used to really like using sexkey - great system.
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                                                                                  • edgeprod
                                                                                    Permanently Gone
                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                    • 10019

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                    I am convinced Venus Blogger is a fake nick. There's just no way.
                                                                                    I thought there was at least SOME glimmer of hope ... but the answer was all I needed to see.


                                                                                    Originally posted by SeedyMedia
                                                                                    I used to really like using sexkey - great system.
                                                                                    C'mon back, we'll have a "returning to SexKey" party. I'm having a meeting with Chris tomorrow about going back.

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                                                                                    • SeedyMedia
                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                      • Aug 2012
                                                                                      • 13

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                                                      C'mon back, we'll have a "returning to SexKey" party. I'm having a meeting with Chris tomorrow about going back.
                                                                                      Thanks mate. I will certainly consider it. It really was an easy conversion several years ago with never any missed payments and truly exceptional support.
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                                                                                      • edgeprod
                                                                                        Permanently Gone
                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                        • 10019

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by SeedyMedia
                                                                                        Thanks mate. I will certainly consider it. It really was an easy conversion several years ago with never any missed payments and truly exceptional support.
                                                                                        They have NEVER, EVER missed a payment for me.

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                                                                                        • Evil Chris
                                                                                          OG
                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                          • 13248

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Good chatting with you guys yesterday!


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                                                                                          • sake
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                                                            • 2648

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Evil Chris
                                                                                            Good chatting with you guys yesterday!
                                                                                            Indeed, thanx for making us things clear Chris! Looking forward to work with you guys !

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                                                                                            • Nurgle
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                                              • 2337

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              conversions are pretty shit these days i find on AVS, havent really found it worthwhile to hit it hard like we once did. Sexkey used to do great for me.. but not so much anymore.. unfort
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                                                                                              • candyflip
                                                                                                Carpe Visio
                                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                                • 43069

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Aren't those checks you posted for doing work for that particular AVS system and not for actually sending traffic/joins?

                                                                                                I'm pretty sure that's what you said the last time you posted those checks.

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                                                                                                • Diomed
                                                                                                  Converting like it's 1999
                                                                                                  • Jan 2009
                                                                                                  • 6167

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I would be interested in seeing a sex key demo, never got into avs, but always love pushing free.. What is the catch?
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                                                                                                  • Major (Tom)
                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                                    • 32492

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    with deluxe pass (my first attempt at selling porn) I was doing around 16k a month by the end of my first year. I maintained & grew a little the next 2 years after that. Then it died.Thankfully around 6 months in I started my own sites. The flaw with that model is the 3 way split of money.
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