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  • MaDalton
    I am Amazing Content!
    • Feb 2004
    • 39861
    #61
    Originally posted by Robbie
    I think we discussed that over on XBiz forum one day.

    And when I looked at Saboom....it reminded me of the old interactive feeds from PornHolio back in the late 1990's/early 2000's.
    Pretty much exactly the same.

    Those old Pornholio interactive feeds let you choose the positions, what type of sex, where the cumshot went, etc.
    They just filmed different versions of the scenes and the viewer was able "direct" (they didn't call it "interactive" yet) the movie in any way they wanted.

    So no...I don't think it's really different.
    i dont think anyone remembers (or cares) what was online 10 or 12 years ago - the name pornholio vaguely rings a bell but i have never heard of any interactive stuff from them.

    i know there were interactive DVDs, but i dont think they were successful

    it's about what is online and available right now - and from that point of view Saboom is different (i never claimed it's something no one else did before).
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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52942
        #62
        Originally posted by MisterPeabody
        Technology and the way porn is delivered to the end consumer will change and evolve but if the performances remain "intense" the same old issues still apply.
        And if they remain fake the same old issues still apply.

        Did the bread change when it was no longer delivered on a bike and moved to a van?



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          • davethedope
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2005
            • 532
            #63
            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            Bullshit. Sorry Dave but it is. I've shot girls or been shot with them for 40 years+ and my impression of the majority is they love sex. Some carry baggage, but still enjoy sex. It depends who they are with and how they are treated.
            Ah, you don't agree with my sweeping generalization, eh?

            Bah, they love being young.

            Ask a woman you were shot with 40 years ago if she still loves sex.

            I agree though, good content depends as much on the girl as it does with who they're with.

            On the other hand, I don't think they should be able to choose their co-stars.

            The co-star should want to fuck the girl more than she wants to fuck him.

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              • DVTimes
                xxx
                • Jun 2003
                • 31658
                #64
                XXX

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                  • The Porn Nerd
                    Living The Dream
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 19784
                    #65
                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                    Did the bread change when it was no longer delivered on a bike and moved to a van?
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                      • Robbie
                        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 20960
                        #66
                        Originally posted by MaDalton
                        i dont think anyone remembers (or cares) what was online 10 or 12 years ago - the name pornholio vaguely rings a bell but i have never heard of any interactive stuff from them.

                        i know there were interactive DVDs, but i dont think they were successful

                        it's about what is online and available right now - and from that point of view Saboom is different (i never claimed it's something no one else did before).
                        Yeah, Pornholio sold live feeds to damn near every pay site online. That was when paysites were mostly pictures and the owners would buy the feeds to have video on their sites.

                        I was just saying that interactive porn online isn't all that innovative because it's all been done before. Whereas the AEBN combination of the "Joystick" + "Real Touch" webcam set up is something that has never been done up until now.
                        -Robbie
                        ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                          • The Porn Nerd
                            Living The Dream
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 19784
                            #67
                            Originally posted by Robbie
                            Yeah, Pornholio sold live feeds to damn near every pay site online. That was when paysites were mostly pictures and the owners would buy the feeds to have video on their sites.

                            I was just saying that interactive porn online isn't all that innovative because it's all been done before. Whereas the AEBN combination of the "Joystick" + "Real Touch" webcam set up is something that has never been done up until now.
                            What's needed is a latex or rubber glove-type device the dude can plug into his USB port. Then the cam model on the other end controls it and strokes him off.

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                              • Robbie
                                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 20960
                                #68
                                Originally posted by MisterPeabody
                                What's needed is a latex or rubber glove-type device the dude can plug into his USB port. Then the cam model on the other end controls it and strokes him off.

                                Cha-ching!!
                                That's sort of what the Real Touch and Joystick do.

                                The cam model has the "Joy Stick" The customer has the "Real Touch"

                                The Customer puts the Real Touch that is plugged into USB on his cock. The model uses the "joy stick" (pressure sensitive dildo plugged into USB)
                                Whatever the model does to the JoyStick is done to the customers cock. If she strokes it, he feels it stroking with however much pressure and placement of her hand on the JoyStick. If she sucks it, he feels that. Inserts it, he feels it.

                                About the closest thing to having sex with somebody online as I've seen.
                                -Robbie
                                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                  • The Porn Nerd
                                    Living The Dream
                                    • Jun 2009
                                    • 19784
                                    #69
                                    Originally posted by Robbie
                                    That's sort of what the Real Touch and Joystick do.

                                    The cam model has the "Joy Stick" The customer has the "Real Touch"

                                    The Customer puts the Real Touch that is plugged into USB on his cock. The model uses the "joy stick" (pressure sensitive dildo plugged into USB)
                                    Whatever the model does to the JoyStick is done to the customers cock. If she strokes it, he feels it stroking with however much pressure and placement of her hand on the JoyStick. If she sucks it, he feels that. Inserts it, he feels it.

                                    About the closest thing to having sex with somebody online as I've seen.
                                    Great, now I'll never get off the Internet....

                                    That sounds fucking wild!!
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                                      • Paul Markham
                                        Too old to care
                                        • Jun 2001
                                        • 52942
                                        #70
                                        Originally posted by davethedope
                                        Ah, you don't agree with my sweeping generalization, eh?

                                        Bah, they love being young.

                                        Ask a woman you were shot with 40 years ago if she still loves sex.

                                        I agree though, good content depends as much on the girl as it does with who they're with.

                                        On the other hand, I don't think they should be able to choose their co-stars.

                                        The co-star should want to fuck the girl more than she wants to fuck him.
                                        A lot of what a girl will say or project depends on the person she's with. Whether she's a porn model or girls in a bar.


                                        Originally posted by MisterPeabody
                                        The Zen of Paul Markham.
                                        Just pointing out that what turns a man on isn't effected by the delivery vehicle. Be it 8mm film or virtual reality, little has changed in how to get a cock hard. Some rely to much on "It's the Internet" to sell a product.



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                                          • MaDalton
                                            I am Amazing Content!
                                            • Feb 2004
                                            • 39861
                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Robbie
                                            That's sort of what the Real Touch and Joystick do.

                                            The cam model has the "Joy Stick" The customer has the "Real Touch"

                                            The Customer puts the Real Touch that is plugged into USB on his cock. The model uses the "joy stick" (pressure sensitive dildo plugged into USB)
                                            Whatever the model does to the JoyStick is done to the customers cock. If she strokes it, he feels it stroking with however much pressure and placement of her hand on the JoyStick. If she sucks it, he feels that. Inserts it, he feels it.

                                            About the closest thing to having sex with somebody online as I've seen.
                                            the downside to this are the insane costs that come with it. the real touch device is far too expensive and then add a couple of dollars per minute... i'm afraid it will never get a broader audience
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                                              • Cherry7
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2005
                                                • 3564
                                                #72
                                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                                That's sort of what the Real Touch and Joystick do.

                                                The cam model has the "Joy Stick" The customer has the "Real Touch"

                                                The Customer puts the Real Touch that is plugged into USB on his cock. The model uses the "joy stick" (pressure sensitive dildo plugged into USB)
                                                Whatever the model does to the JoyStick is done to the customers cock. If she strokes it, he feels it stroking with however much pressure and placement of her hand on the JoyStick. If she sucks it, he feels that. Inserts it, he feels it.

                                                About the closest thing to having sex with somebody online as I've seen.
                                                And to take it one stage further, you would have recordings of great fucks, to play back on your joy stick...
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                                                  • notime
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                    • 8025
                                                    #73
                                                    Originally posted by The Ghost
                                                    Going on 16 years in the business.

                                                    What I've seen over and over again is this; content trends in this business come in waves.

                                                    Harder - Softer - Harder - Softer


                                                    Content gets harder and harder until there is a backlash, and customers and producers change their stylings. Then it gets "softer" and ramps back up again out of customer boredom with it being soft.

                                                    Customers rare stay into the SAME style of content throughout their life. They experiment and enjoy all different types of content at different times. Their tastes evolve, then possibly revert.



                                                    There it is.
                                                    Agreed. Like a sinus / cosinus flow over time. Porn is an addiction and addictions need 'more' each time to get the 'rush'.

                                                    I kind of like the new arty vids these days. Gagging and girls slapped & crying makes me sick to my stomach.

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                                                      • The Porn Nerd
                                                        Living The Dream
                                                        • Jun 2009
                                                        • 19784
                                                        #74
                                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham

                                                        Just pointing out that what turns a man on isn't effected by the delivery vehicle. Be it 8mm film or virtual reality, little has changed in how to get a cock hard. Some rely to much on "It's the Internet" to sell a product.
                                                        You are absolutely correct in this statement. (That's right, I said it - Paul Markham is RIGHT!)

                                                        I remember, years ago, a series of old-timey porn videos called something like "What Got Grandpa Off". And it was "stag films" from the 1920's and 1930's. Everything was in black and white, silent films. And guess what? I whacked off to it.

                                                        (Says a lot about me hehe....)
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                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                            Too old to care
                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                            • 52942
                                                            #75
                                                            Originally posted by MisterPeabody
                                                            You are absolutely correct in this statement. (That's right, I said it - Paul Markham is RIGHT!)

                                                            I remember, years ago, a series of old-timey porn videos called something like "What Got Grandpa Off". And it was "stag films" from the 1920's and 1930's. Everything was in black and white, silent films. And guess what? I whacked off to it.

                                                            (Says a lot about me hehe....)
                                                            Some use "It's the Internet." To forget it's really only porn. Whether you have to go to the shops, get it via the mail or see it online.



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