Can The Porn Business Change?

Attitudes towards sex vary so greatly from culture to culture it's hard to make an all-inclusive accurate statement regarding people's tastes. So I won't. LOL What I'm getting at is mainstream porn, not "niches".

We as human beings get a lot of our information and communication non-verbally which we often forget. So when I watch a porn scene I am actually processing a LOT of info: the sounds, the movement, the music, the lighting, and - MOST important of all - the expressions of the performers.

Many do this UNconsciously (noticing the facial expressions) but I now do so consciously. Watch the faces of the MEN in the scenes. They are angry, rage-fueled faces, pounding that pussy in fury and contempt. The girls? Watch closely - every once in a while the "truth" of what they're feeling comes across their faces as they wince, shudder and almost cry.

BUT IT'S SO HOT!!

Not.

"Hot" like "beauty" is in the eye of the beholder.

Nothing new going on here. That maxim has applied since the dawn of recorded history.

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you could argue that sex is by nature somewhat of a violent act. a dick stabbing a pussy is kinda like (now this is a bit of a stretch but..) a knife stabbing flesh...the same kind of adrenaline is released during a fight and during sex. etc, etc.

That is an extremely excellent point! In eastern philosophies there's the hard and soft energies typified by the penis and vagina. (I'll let you figure out which one is soft and hard energy in this example...). There's a distinction between the two energies and the roles they play.

I've also seen studies where they've dissected the male (human) brain and found that the sections that control violence and sex are right next to each other so perhaps this is why many male performers need to "go there" (the violent part of their brain) in order to get aroused.

But still, we are not merely animals and do have the ability to control and even override parts of our brain. WE control our own actions tho I admit that doing tons of drugs and being desperate for cash makes controlling one's actions more difficult. LOL

I think you're way off-base if you're talking about the big generic porn companies ("mainstream porn" as you called it)

As Mutt pointed out earlier...all their shit is vignette based and pretty tame and lame. Brazzers stuff is getting lighter and lighter as Fabian gets more worried and listens to too many lawyers...they just dropped one of their sites a few weeks ago that was themed about porn stars wanting rough sex and sent out notices to us affiliates the it didn't "fit" with Brazzers anymore.

Naughty America is also one of the biggest "mainstream" as you call it...generic as I call it, porn companies. Claudia Marie has shot with them many times, and I've been an affiliate since they were called SoCal Cash back in the day...they have ALWAYS been super vanilla and tame. They have a list of rules when they shoot to make sure that the girl isn't degraded in any way at all.

Twistys Hardcore has never, ever shot anything like you're describing.

The only big generic companies that did were Nasty Dollars...and they kinda went "soft" in comparison to the old days. The last 7 years or so of their content have been pretty much looking exactly like Naughty America's stuff. Which is what Brazzers did too. Copied the NA style and even stole their directors.

They all use the same girls and guys, same directors, same ideas.

None of them are on the level of Kink or Max Hardcore's stuff.

So I have to disagree with you on that point.

As for your main concept...Look, people like different shit. You hate seeing the girl nailed rough. Other guys LOVE it. Some guys like tiny, skinny anorexic girls. Some guys like obese women. Some guys dig watching girls do anal. Some guys are disgusted by it.

It's all fantasy and there are plenty of people who enjoy different things.

And yes, that even includes the women in the scenes. Some girls in this business HATE sex and have a general hatred of men. And conversely I know lots of girls who LOVE sex and can't fuck enough. And some girls who just like romantically "making love"...and some girls who actually enjoy gangbangs.

And when the right girl is matched to the right type of scene...you get fireworks and a great scene.

You would be up on what's being shot today much more so than I would be so i concede that "mainstream" (or generic) porn companies are moving in the dirction of more "vanilla"-type sex scenes. That's a good thing, IMHO.

As to niches: Hey, I totally agree that guys are into differant things, sometimes even the same guy (I know I'm like that, with a shockingly wide variety of tastes). But again I think those people tend to gravitate towards the niche sites...

The other major point going on here is a general 'watering down" of content for all genres of entertainment (music, tv, movies). A few years ago (say, 15-20) there were limited outlets for entertainment, as in only so many radio stations in a market, or national tv channels, or movies being produced. But now there are 500+ tv channels, more movies than ever being made to meet the DVD and overseas markets, etc. So naturally the "talent pool" for all these endeavors ain't what they used to be...

I'm just wondering if porn can evolve and change enough to survive.

My guess is it doesn't need to "evolve" You probably notice that I have a bit of disdain for the words "evolve", "adapt", "innovate".

Not because I don't think that actually doing those things isn't great...I just believe that the foundation of what we do is a hot sex scene. Yes, we can show them better and better quality pics and vids as technology increases. Yes, there will be TRULY different delivery methods in the future (I'm talking about sci-fi sounding interactive porn where you are basically having real sex with a hologram kind of stuff and NOT what is called "innovating" today where you put a tube script up on auto pilot).

But the bottom line is...age old sexual fantasies and "taboo" that have been at the core of human beings sexuality since the first cave man scrawled a pic on a wall of a cave woman getting fucked doggystyle will not change unless human beings suddenly are genetically altered.

The only thing that will happen in the future as far as "evolving" will just be the natural progression to different formats...like was done with Mobile. But just like with Mobile porn...it won't make that big of a deal in sales in some cases. In other ways that haven't yet been invented we may hit an entirely NEW way to deliver porn (like when CD's first came out for music and everyone updated their record collections)

Either way....that's stuff for tech geniuses at ITT to come up with.

Our job is to shoot hot scenes that get a man's dick hard and make him cum while jerking off. Nothing more, nothing less when you get right down to the heart of the matter.

What about getting more female customers in porn?

I'm wondering whats the global ratio man/woman (if it even exist)..

With the mainstreaming of "50 Shades" I dont see that content going anywhere anytime soon.

I represent James Deen and I can tell you that mainstream is calling across the board - movies, television, commercials and books - and they want that BDSM edge he brings. Its been brought up in every conversation and meeting.

Because of "The Canyons" he is about to represent that genre of porn and its only going to grow.

Ive never seen a male pornstar with such a ravenous female fan base. They love this guy and they range from 14-40.

If anything I see that part of porn growing even further.


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i can say that www.saboom.com is definitely something different

I think we discussed that over on XBiz forum one day.

And when I looked at Saboom....it reminded me of the old interactive feeds from PornHolio back in the late 1990's/early 2000's.
Pretty much exactly the same.

Those old Pornholio interactive feeds let you choose the positions, what type of sex, where the cumshot went, etc.
They just filmed different versions of the scenes and the viewer was able "direct" (they didn't call it "interactive" yet) the movie in any way they wanted.

So no...I don't think it's really different.

What IS different is AEBN's new cam site that has the girl using the interactive "joystick" and the customer using the RealTouch so that he actually feels on his cock everything that the girl is doing live on webcam with the "joystick" (an interactive dildo with pressure sensitive surface)

Anyone that thinks the niche or the style is the essence of porn is deluded.

This goes for those who think it's about traffic, split testing, one tour over another. Or any of the other things many worry about here.

http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1081758 while you discuss whether one porn is better than another. Take a read and find out what porn's really about.

Technology and the way porn is delivered to the end consumer will change and evolve but if the performances remain "intense" the same old issues still apply.

Want to see a big change in the porn industry?

Vote for Romney - THEN you'll see what "change" looks like.