Is it because he is a smart biz person or is it because he is way richer than 99% of people on GFY or has lots of babes and lots of bling ?
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who is he? I am not being a smartass. I just don't keep up with that stuff although I hear his name so much, manwin also, all I hear is he buys everything but I have no ideaOur site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and PennyComment
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Bullshit... Doesent matter whether you steal a concept (Apple comes to mind here) or content a lot of people do it in biz, so apples and oranges does not work for me im afraid
You could get a crap load of content from Bulletin boards and Usenet all for free not to mention peer to peer which came after There has always been ripped content on the net whether its songs, mainstream or porn The one thing which changed is the pirates can now make mooney from it ...
I think a lot of hate towards Fabian is jealousy.. pure and simple jelousy.. Why dont people hate Shap ? because he sold his program Twistys to them ...Comment
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No one likes a thief.
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He was stupid enough to give Paul Markham $3000 to make a terrible scene.Comment
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Robbing pensioners is only ok if you use some of the cash to build a retirement home.Comment
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So shap sold his biz to a thief ? so he is now using stolen money for his other biz ? but he is still a stand up top notch guy ?
Still does not makes sense
Iv nothing against Shap or Fabian BTW because they are both very smart people where biz is concerned, but the hypocrisy of a lot of people on this forum and in adult is beyond a joke, and I still think jelousy is the main hate drive behind the Manwin empireComment
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Tubes have made it so easy that even surfers as dumb as Joe the Plumber can get anything they want with a couple of mouse clicks. Getting free shit off of Bulletin boards, Usenet and peer-to-peer required a little bit of intelligence and a lot of patience.
Like I said, apples and oranges.
As for Shap, he was just another sellout.. he didn't create the problem.
But, you know all of this already and the rest of us are simply taking a bite of your troll bait
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yes and tubes were around before Fabian decided to buy into them and as for Shap ..if Fabian is a thief then that means that Shap and all the other programs Manwin has purchased profited from stolen content by selling his program to somebody who made money from stealing right ?Tubes have made it so easy that even surfers as dumb as Joe the Plumber can get anything they want with a couple of mouse clicks. Getting free shit off of Bulletin boards, Usenet and peer-to-peer required a little bit of intelligence and a lot of patience.
Like I said, apples and oranges.
As for Shap, he was just another sellout.. he didn't create the problem.
But, you know all of this already and the rest of us are simply taking a bite of your troll bait
See the dilema here ? there is no apples and oranges as you say .. biz is biz whether we like the way its done or notComment
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Everyone was stealing shit in the 90s. Think anyone gave a fuck about about the offline porn mongers who produced and owned the content?
That was different though; like it always is, if you're the one doing it.Comment
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You're making weird straw-man arguments, and I'm not quite sure why. You can't "steal" a concept in this industry, because no one bothers to patent anything, and there's precious little "innovation" here that doesn't come from mainstream anyway.
When the majority of folks here talk about "theft," it isn't about ideas, notions, or concepts. It's about content. And content, unlike an idea, IS protected very well in this industry. Producing content costs money, and copyright law is designed to protect that investment. So, when someone uses content without licensing it, that is actual quantifiable theft.
Does that help you understand better?
Your "there's precident for theft" argument is a weird one as well. Was the holocaust okay because people had been killed before? Gee, it was just a bigger version of people being killed, right? To me, that seems to be what you're saying.
As for me PERSONALLY, I'm neutral toward them and toward Fabian. I haven't had any positive or negative experiences with them, and I didn't follow the alleged content theft closely enough to know if it's an empty allegation or legitimate. What he does rarely affects me (except when he's buying programs I have contracts with), so I don't have any reason to love or hate him.
I'm just answering you because you asked what appeared to be a stupid question, and I thought there was a chance you actually didn't know. I didn't realize it was some weird nut-hug or whatever it is.
Anyway, don't shoot the messenger .. or the explainer.
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I dont think jealousy has much to do with. When you factor in that Fabian is a lying, thieving, shit stain who has harmed a lot of people in this industry, and is trying to harm a lot more...you are getting a LOT closer to the reason.Mike South
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I would believe that people would hate him because he is a monopoly man buying out every big company in the industry and leaving everyone else in the dust.JR Graphic Design
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Those of you sucking Fabians ass in hopes of getting a peanut are gonna get exactly what you deserve...shit on....Ask Jules Jordan how that worked out for him.Mike South
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Well, lets everyone make a bussines out of stealing from other people and call it "haters gonna hate". I already saw it in my main current bussines (stock trading and investments) and its called "Wall street"...Happily, manwin had its own bailout aka stealing at the beggining...Comment
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He is a content thief nothing more.
I admire and respect those who have huge success, but when you are successful from stealing or committing crimes against us hard working webmasters and contents shooters, you will be genuinely hated, for GOOD REASON.
Its like working for the Mafia, those who work for the mob are knowingly and willing to accept criminal money. So that actually by definition makes them a criminal just as well.
In all 50 states in the USA possession of stolen property is against the law. So when one is paid by Manwin/Fabian with our stolen money they are in possession and accepting stolen money.Last edited by Radical Bucks; 09-15-2012, 11:35 AM.Comment
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Success is never forgivenYou might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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We apparently have different definitions of what success is. I have seen so many thieves in this business I lost count back in 1998. And we all know that the list continued to grow.
So what separates them is how well they did. And at this moment Fabian would appear to be very close to the top of the mountain. So he is going to be a target.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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As far as I remember he was hated when his company was not that big, just right after he started stealing content.
Plus it is natural that well known thieves gets more hate. Its because they are well known. Small thief has 10 people who knows about him, big thief is well known and has 1000 that knows about him. So I understand why to some it looks like he is hated for success. But actually its just natural that the more known thief will have more haters, just because more people know what he does.Last edited by mineistaken; 09-15-2012, 12:13 PM.Comment
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I wonder how an alleged thief with that much spotlight on him at conventions, etc., gets away with it so easily.
It must be some kind of legal thievery.
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not sure but isn't it stealing stuff and making money off of it then turning around and suing people for trying to steal the same stolen stuff? lol Well? is it?
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Well saidAs far as I remember he was hated when his company was not that big, just right after he started stealing content.
Plus it is natural that well known thieves gets more hate. Its because they are well known. Small thief has 10 people who knows about him, big thief is well known and has 1000 that knows about him. So I understand why to some it looks like he is hated for success. But actually its just natural that the more known thief will have more haters, just because more people know what he does.
A hard dick has no conscience.Comment
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you dvtimes, paul and currentlysober should do the share house thingComment
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I think the adult industry needs to go back to innovating like it once did. If you all hate this guy so much make something better and beat him.
I agree with everyone that says it is jealousy. The true root of this hate stems from paysites' decline which yes was partially due to tube sites but the entire internet has shifted to free information. You had to see this coming with Google and other search engines getting better and better.
This board is depressing. I see people ask for help and go unanswered and I frequently see noobs get taken advantage of. Cheer up people. Innovate!Skype: nickyfiorentinoComment
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