Can The Porn Business Change?

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  • flyfishing
    Registered User
    • Sep 2012
    • 51

    #31
    its moving towards cams i'd say

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    • oppoten
      NAME THE JEW
      • Nov 2007
      • 4793

      #32
      Originally posted by Robbie
      You obviously haven't looked at much European porn (especially for a guy in the U.K.). lol

      But thanks for the faux psycho-analytical b.s. that really doesn't fly when it comes to complex human sexuality and fantasy.
      I look at lots of European porn, just not the stuff that models itself on American porn. Private screwed itself up for doing that IMO.

      You didn't need to reply. I get the picture and I respect where you're coming from.

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      • Barry-xlovecam
        It's 42
        • Jun 2010
        • 18083

        #33
        We don't allow forced or imitated forced sex or BDSM. Being in the Netherlands we could probably get away with it but for legal reasons, that would affect our bottom line profits, we don't allow it.

        We are not so much moralists as we are realists. We are happy to lose the extreme customer to abuse models elsewhere. Controlling and limiting the situation on a one-on-one basis is not doable at our volume.

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        • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
          Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
          • Jul 2004
          • 38323

          #34


          I've stayed pretty true to my original values after over a decade of shooting porn.

          I shoot what interests me, and the types of things that interest me are what I do in my own sex life, and some mild fantasy exploration, so my site is more glam style (but with a realistic feel), and the hardcore content is more sensual couples-oriented hardcore.

          All of my scenes still are storyboarded with a plot, and I break many of the trend "rules" of the industry (I score licensed music on my videos, frequently shoot with multiple cameras, etc)

          When I delve into BDSM/fetish, it is more from an inquisitive or educational exploration perspective, basically to introduce the fetish, and to demonstrate it's psychological appeal to those with that particular fetish.

          I also don't shoot a lot of extreme/fetish/BDSM, because I am not into those things so much in my personal life, so I feel that my work will come across as disingenuine to true fetishists, so I mostly stick to what I enjoy and know.

          In my case, I am not pandering to the market, I simply do what I can to have the market for my niche/site find me.



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          • Robbie
            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
            • Aug 2002
            • 20960

            #35
            Originally posted by oppoten
            I look at lots of European porn, just not the stuff that models itself on American porn. Private screwed itself up for doing that IMO.

            You didn't need to reply. I get the picture and I respect where you're coming from.
            I'm pretty sure that "European Porn" was deemed too extreme for years here in the U.S.

            Matter of fact...even Max Hardcore was filming two versions of his movies. One for the U.S. and one "harder" one for Europe.

            Am I mistaken on that?
            -Robbie
            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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            • Raz
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2005
              • 166

              #36
              Something we can't imagine right now will be the hot new porn niche in five years. It won't necessarily be a new concept, but it will where the money is it. Art porn isn't really new, sensitive porn films designed to be inclusive of a more feminine viewpoint were done 20 years ago. Same thing with blacks and asian babes or latinas. Once a small niche nobody cared about, now a bit more relevant. Maybe we'll be marketing art porn holograms. Who knows?

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              • Cherry7
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2005
                • 3564

                #37
                Porn is just so poor in so many ways...that lack of fantasy, the same scene poorly shot over and over again, blow job, fuck, come in face... all shot on amateur cameras with crap sound etc...

                Visa fears about real force have a grounding in the fact that most porn is done for real and not acted, so the girl is really spanked hard not pretend. Hollywood does not actually use real bullets.

                It would be good if fantasy could be signaled and approved.

                Porn is a sub culture which the majority of the population don't understand, like ballet.

                There is a market for erotic material appealing to people who find porn dull, anti women, and strange, but it is very difficult to reach them because of censorship in normal media and being forced into the porn ghetto
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                • KyleC
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2012
                  • 327

                  #38
                  I'd disagree with the ones saying porn is stuck in the degrading stages of the 2000's. The top selling material seems to be femdom or humiliation niches. These are all involving men taking the brunt of exploitation. And as far as running out of ideas and niches. There will always be new niches coming out. People say the same about mainstream movies and music...that it's all been done before and there is nothing new to come up with. Create!
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                  • Bat_Man
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 421

                    #39
                    I gone through the post...but I feel nothing can can change this big demand.....
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                    • DamageX
                      Marketing & Strategy
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 14293

                      #40
                      This thread is beyond fucking retarded. It's like discussing politics, none of the posters can do a damn thing about it, yet you all keep arguing. Get back to making money and making the best out of the situation.
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                      • Paul Markham
                        Too old to care
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 52942

                        #41
                        Originally posted by davethedope
                        They're either lying or deluded by their youth. Most of these girls don't REALLY even enjoy sex, which is why they're in porn to begin with.

                        Now, they'll say they're in the business because they enjoy sex- wrong- they're in it for easy money.

                        Most aren't as attractive as they are raised up to be.

                        It's all very complicated.
                        Bullshit. Sorry Dave but it is. I've shot girls or been shot with them for 40 years+ and my impression of the majority is they love sex. Some carry baggage, but still enjoy sex. It depends who they are with and how they are treated.

                        As for the OP.

                        Do you think it's down to the shooters, publishers or audience? IMO the last one is the least effecting this trend. A small % of people want to see a girl abused. Problem is they want to see a girl really having a great time and few shooter can get that out of a girl these days.

                        How the industry has changed. http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1081654

                        Will add to it, going to rest. Been updating my blog. Might go for a walk.



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                        • Mutt
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 34431

                          #42
                          huh? there's way less of that type of porn now than 5 and 10 years ago - you don't have all the reality sites ridiculing the 'dumb bitches' anymore, look at Brazzers, RK/Bangbros and Naughty America, the biggest brands in hardcore porn - it's all vignette porn, and pretty tame really.

                          Meatholes is long gone, Rob Black is long gone, Steve Sweet is long gone, and others like them. That extreme mysoginistic porn has faded.

                          Girls continue to evolve sexually, they grow up now seeing a lot more porn, lots of them like the intense hard sex they see in videos - they want guys like James Deen or Manuel Ferrara to fuck the shit out of them, choke them a bit, whatever else they do.
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                          • The Ghost
                            IslandDollars.com
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 12188

                            #43
                            Going on 16 years in the business.

                            What I've seen over and over again is this; content trends in this business come in waves.

                            Harder - Softer - Harder - Softer


                            Content gets harder and harder until there is a backlash, and customers and producers change their stylings. Then it gets "softer" and ramps back up again out of customer boredom with it being soft.

                            Customers rare stay into the SAME style of content throughout their life. They experiment and enjoy all different types of content at different times. Their tastes evolve, then possibly revert.



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                            • redhead
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 85

                              #44
                              I think Peabody has a point, though I understand what Robbie's saying too.
                              What i have noticed is that women are changing.

                              I'll explain, up until 18 months ago I'd been married for 10 years (monogamously ) when my marriage split up I started dating again, 12 girls in 14 months. Every one of those girls told me they liked sex to be rough (they brought the subject up), they all came from different backgrounds, aged from 23 to 34 and they all said this on or before the FIRST date. I am 47 and have talked about this with sexual partners before but never that early. BTW none of the girls worked in adult or knew that I do.

                              Also when was the last time you fucked a girl who had pubes?

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                              • tony286
                                lurker
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 57021

                                #45
                                Originally posted by oppoten
                                I've long believed that "nasty" American porn is basically intended to put the American surfer in combat mode, and make him think of his dick as a gun.

                                "Hunting" and "destroying" pussy ain't too different from hunting and destroying Taliban. It's the same with sports and steroids. Pumped up = good, subtle = weak. Hopefully the art porn sites will help change a few attitudes.
                                I agree it's not fetishes its just angry.

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