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Gerco · 09-11-2012, 06:37 AM

The way I see the numbers... (I actually wrote this a 4 years ago so some of the numbers have changed a little)

Fully managed dedicated server, 250 a month.

Now, lets say you have to bill by Ccbill and charge say, $24.88 a month, about 15% (about $3.73 of that monthly charge for each member comes right off the top and also, lets say you depend on affiliates to send you traffic, (Most sites do) and those affiliates average 50% of the top... ($12.44)per sale and rebill. So 16.17 of your 24.88 membership is already taken leaving the site owner 8.71 of the remaining amount of the membership.

So it would take 29 paying members per month to break even and cover just the hosting the hosting of the site.

Now, in order to take visa or mastercard, your also having to pay 1000 per year in their fee's. About 83 bucks a month. so your cost is really 333.00 a month.. so you need 38 paying members a month to break even.

Now you still have to buy your camera, buy a computer, buy a video camera, have internet service in order to upload you content. So lets go cheap here... Say you goto bestbuy and you can get the camera for around 500 bucks (you HAVE to have even the cheapest digital slr) the cheaper cameras just can not take pictures fast enough to keep up during a real photoshoot. and lets also say you are willing to wait so you can get away with a cheaper computer... something portable like a macbook or something... figure 1200 bucks for something that actually going to let you edit video etc.. The video camera? any Mini DV... so figure about 350 for that on the really cheapo end. OK, you still need to buy blamnk DV tapes for that video camera.. figure around 5 bucks a pop if you buy in bulk at sams club... and lets say you do a new shoot at least 1 time a month and do a cam show ever week, thats 5 tapes a month minimum so 60 tapes a year, $300 bucks. (you never use the same tape twice as you want to be able to keep each original tape as your backup) You also must have so storage if your going to actually be working with those tapes as capturing 1 hour of raw avi mini dv is going to burn up 12gig of drive space... you can pick up lacie drives right now for $350.00 for 2 terebyte. And just to be realistic here... let not forget the little things... like memory cards for the camera, readers to read those cards, cheapo hardware store shop lights for the actual lighting of the sets your shooting, and all the other little crap your going to need lets figure $500 bucks for all that Misc. cause your a real bargen hunter.

Software? well your a fucking super cheapo so you steal all of that from warez sites etc...(no don't do that) Your not a cheapo? ok well go buy Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and adobe premier at there very least cause your going to be using all 3 of them hardcore. Another 1000.00 bucks there at least.

So lets break this all down for those that are having a hard time following...

camera- 500
video camera 350
computer 1200
tapes 300
storage 350
misc 500
software 1000

total = 4200 dollars. but we are doing this buy the year... so 350 bucks a month..

Wait... still have not actually built a site... you know a designer (right) no really... you need a actually good site design.. 1000 bucks on the cheap end. Plus, you need to have some sort of script that controls your content... cheap.. 500bucks (good 1000 bucks install and setup+ poss a monthly fee of at least 150) but we are poor fuckers so lets stay cheap. Anti hacker software, anti hotlinking software and other programs you need to keep you server running nice and smooth... figure a budget of at least 400 bucks for that...

So on the cheapo end your talking 1900 bucks to actually build the site. (good luck with that btw)

So equipment and site design are now at 6100. again...Oh.. and you must pay the visa master card fee BEFORE you can start taking transactions...7100. Oh... and remember that server in the begining? did I mention that require a 1 year contract? 250x12 = 3000. Your internet connection another 40 bucks a month. 480 a year...

So your startup cost? Starting from scratch... no members... $10500.80 (875 a month broke down over 12 months)

you only make 8.71 per member charge @ 24.88 remember... so you going to need 1215 paying members to break even the first year. (you still have not paid yourself.... or your webmaster as most girls actually only get a cut of the site, the webmaster who built it actually takes more than 50% (real life 70% or more for taking the risk) So how many members a month do you need to break even? 101. (spreading all costs out for a year) which you cant do in real life.

ok... now lets say you run the site yourself... and want to make the what someone making oh... 8 bucks an hour would make before taxes. (basically Minimum wage with no benefits of any kind) That equals out to about 16640 a year... thats another 1910 members your sites going to have to have over the year on top of the already required 1215 so 3125 or 261 members a month.

Thats 9 members PER DAY.

Add a girl working for a webmaster... doing a 50% split of the profits and well, you do the math.

09-11-2012, 06:37 AM
Gerco Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,052	The way I see the numbers... (I actually wrote this a 4 years ago so some of the numbers have changed a little) Fully managed dedicated server, 250 a month. Now, lets say you have to bill by Ccbill and charge say, $24.88 a month, about 15% (about $3.73 of that monthly charge for each member comes right off the top and also, lets say you depend on affiliates to send you traffic, (Most sites do) and those affiliates average 50% of the top... ($12.44)per sale and rebill. So 16.17 of your 24.88 membership is already taken leaving the site owner 8.71 of the remaining amount of the membership. So it would take 29 paying members per month to break even and cover just the hosting the hosting of the site. Now, in order to take visa or mastercard, your also having to pay 1000 per year in their fee's. About 83 bucks a month. so your cost is really 333.00 a month.. so you need 38 paying members a month to break even. Now you still have to buy your camera, buy a computer, buy a video camera, have internet service in order to upload you content. So lets go cheap here... Say you goto bestbuy and you can get the camera for around 500 bucks (you HAVE to have even the cheapest digital slr) the cheaper cameras just can not take pictures fast enough to keep up during a real photoshoot. and lets also say you are willing to wait so you can get away with a cheaper computer... something portable like a macbook or something... figure 1200 bucks for something that actually going to let you edit video etc.. The video camera? any Mini DV... so figure about 350 for that on the really cheapo end. OK, you still need to buy blamnk DV tapes for that video camera.. figure around 5 bucks a pop if you buy in bulk at sams club... and lets say you do a new shoot at least 1 time a month and do a cam show ever week, thats 5 tapes a month minimum so 60 tapes a year, $300 bucks. (you never use the same tape twice as you want to be able to keep each original tape as your backup) You also must have so storage if your going to actually be working with those tapes as capturing 1 hour of raw avi mini dv is going to burn up 12gig of drive space... you can pick up lacie drives right now for $350.00 for 2 terebyte. And just to be realistic here... let not forget the little things... like memory cards for the camera, readers to read those cards, cheapo hardware store shop lights for the actual lighting of the sets your shooting, and all the other little crap your going to need lets figure $500 bucks for all that Misc. cause your a real bargen hunter. Software? well your a fucking super cheapo so you steal all of that from warez sites etc...(no don't do that) Your not a cheapo? ok well go buy Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and adobe premier at there very least cause your going to be using all 3 of them hardcore. Another 1000.00 bucks there at least. So lets break this all down for those that are having a hard time following... camera- 500 video camera 350 computer 1200 tapes 300 storage 350 misc 500 software 1000 total = 4200 dollars. but we are doing this buy the year... so 350 bucks a month.. Wait... still have not actually built a site... you know a designer (right) no really... you need a actually good site design.. 1000 bucks on the cheap end. Plus, you need to have some sort of script that controls your content... cheap.. 500bucks (good 1000 bucks install and setup+ poss a monthly fee of at least 150) but we are poor fuckers so lets stay cheap. Anti hacker software, anti hotlinking software and other programs you need to keep you server running nice and smooth... figure a budget of at least 400 bucks for that... So on the cheapo end your talking 1900 bucks to actually build the site. (good luck with that btw) So equipment and site design are now at 6100. again...Oh.. and you must pay the visa master card fee BEFORE you can start taking transactions...7100. Oh... and remember that server in the begining? did I mention that require a 1 year contract? 250x12 = 3000. Your internet connection another 40 bucks a month. 480 a year... So your startup cost? Starting from scratch... no members... $10500.80 (875 a month broke down over 12 months) you only make 8.71 per member charge @ 24.88 remember... so you going to need 1215 paying members to break even the first year. (you still have not paid yourself.... or your webmaster as most girls actually only get a cut of the site, the webmaster who built it actually takes more than 50% (real life 70% or more for taking the risk) So how many members a month do you need to break even? 101. (spreading all costs out for a year) which you cant do in real life. ok... now lets say you run the site yourself... and want to make the what someone making oh... 8 bucks an hour would make before taxes. (basically Minimum wage with no benefits of any kind) That equals out to about 16640 a year... thats another 1910 members your sites going to have to have over the year on top of the already required 1215 so 3125 or 261 members a month. Thats 9 members PER DAY. Add a girl working for a webmaster... doing a 50% split of the profits and well, you do the math. __________________ Http://www.extremehole.com ** CLOSED ** 400 HOURS of exclusive custom extreme content, already on external HD in Raw DV ready to encode. over 150,000 exclusive images and more.