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    • Nov 2003
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    #1

    If you could REINVENT the online adult marketing industry...

    What would you change? Or is it fine the way it is?
  • StuartD
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    • Jul 2002
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    #2
    Self regulation / enforcement where we would have better control of scum.... where people can't scam thousands, disappear and return with a fake nick to do it all over again.
    This includes CP and other blatantly illegal activities done in the name of porn.
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    • Doctor Dre
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      • Jan 2001
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      #3
      No more then 5 picture, 1x 10 second video as teasers
      Originally posted by rayadp05
      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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      • bns666
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        • Mar 2005
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        #4
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        • sysk
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          • Aug 2007
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          #5
          less free content...
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          • CarlosTheGaucho
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            • Oct 2005
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            #6
            - Spamming destroyed the mail communication

            - due to shady rebill practices surfers are scared to pay online unless they are ten times assured it's allright

            - less free content

            - programs are madly overpaying affiliates to get at least a share of the pie - and it's not those who built their exclusive content library and after working their way up were able to raise their payouts (that would happen anyway)

            Just from the outer perspective - I don't know of any other business to get a minimum of 50 pct. commission to sell someone elses product - interesting that for example in Germany it's still membership based paysites that pay less than 50pct. (but also programs paying 44 EUR / signup) :2cent
            Last edited by CarlosTheGaucho; 11-23-2007, 04:33 PM.
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            • Hank_Heartland
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              • Sep 2002
              • 3987

              #7
              Fixin it is my plan

              The big money in adult is in high quality crossover sites that are naughty but nice and appeal to a general audience like ms and ggw. That's where the big money is in adult and will always be.

              Although hardcore is a big niche...it will never appeal to the general public or be mainstream.

              The ggw's with quality and class that can tease will rule and crossover to the masses...

              Gagging and degrading women never will

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                #8
                Originally posted by CarlosTheGaucho
                - Spamming destroyed the mail communication

                You can say that again. According to USA Today: Spam mail has now outpaced Legit mail.

                "This year marks the first time the total number of spam e-mail messages sent worldwide, 10.8 trillion, will surpass the number of person-to-person e-mails sent, 10.5 trillion, according to market researcher IDC."
                Source: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/co...-22-spam_N.htm

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                • tony299
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                  • Aug 2002
                  • 57021

                  #9
                  Originally posted by StuartD
                  Self regulation / enforcement where we would have better control of scum.... where people can't scam thousands, disappear and return with a fake nick to do it all over again.
                  This includes CP and other blatantly illegal activities done in the name of porn.
                  You are so right. Also it would of been all real names,no fake names. It makes it easy to be a scumbag when hiding behind a nick.

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                  • PornMogul
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                    • May 2007
                    • 1495

                    #10
                    Id do away with SHAVING. I think its the number one thing wrong with this industry

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                    • Pornwolf
                      Drunk and Unruly
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 22712

                      #11
                      We should have formed a more cohesive industry unit to control things like billing, spam and definitely free content. The big guys allowed all kinds of young reckless guys to spam and give out content willy nilly. They could have controlled that much better. Billing was a bigger issue.

                      What's amazing to me is how small this industry is. A couple of years ago you could have dropped a bomb in the hotel during internext and completely shut down 90% of the paysites online.

                      All of the big players know each other well, so there's no excuse for a lot of the things that have been allowed to happen.

                      Everything else has progressed pretty well. The business unity is the only thing that should have been changed.
                      Last edited by Pornwolf; 11-23-2007, 07:14 PM.
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                      • Pornwolf
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                        • Jan 2002
                        • 22712

                        #12
                        Gene, are you trying to win a GFY award bro? ;)
                        I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

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                        • PMdave
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                          • Dec 2003
                          • 1517

                          #13
                          all hardcore content behind age verification systems. All hardcore content behind that system somehow personally marked to trace contentthieves.

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                          • PMdave
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                            • Dec 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by PornMogul
                            Id do away with SHAVING. I think its the number one thing wrong with this industry
                            easy one! Start demanding less from sponsors.

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                            • pornask
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 6518

                              #15
                              I would like to see that all evil doers who give online adult industry a bad vibes in the eye of general public never came to exist. That involves spamming, installing trojans, personal information abuse, cheaters (advertising teen website while inside offering 16 year olds wearing pony tails and school dresses as if people were this stupid to not know), etc. Everything that gives adult industry bad name and makes it difficult for sincere guys who wish to provide quality service I wish never existed

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                              • PMdave
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                                • Dec 2003
                                • 1517

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pornask
                                ....cheaters (advertising teen website while inside offering 16 year olds wearing pony tails and school dresses as if people were this stupid to not know),...
                                I seriously hope you mean 26 year olds

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                                • Casa Nova
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                                  • Mar 2007
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                                  #17
                                  I'd get rid of all the free porn rolling around. free pics is one thing, free vids.. not so much.

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                                  • pornask
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                                    • Aug 2006
                                    • 6518

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by PMdave
                                    I seriously hope you mean 26 year olds
                                    I'm sorry, i did mean 26. Should have proofread after myself. Been leaving types everywhere lately.

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                                    • CarlosTheGaucho
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                                      • Oct 2005
                                      • 9575

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                      We should have formed a more cohesive industry unit to control things like billing, spam and definitely free content. The big guys allowed all kinds of young reckless guys to spam and give out content willy nilly. They could have controlled that much better. Billing was a bigger issue.

                                      What's amazing to me is how small this industry is. A couple of years ago you could have dropped a bomb in the hotel during internext and completely shut down 90% of the paysites online.

                                      All of the big players know each other well, so there's no excuse for a lot of the things that have been allowed to happen.

                                      Everything else has progressed pretty well. The business unity is the only thing that should have been changed.
                                      Very true..
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                                      • F-U-Jimmy
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                                        • Apr 2006
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                                        #20
                                        Better education on © laws, more immediate penalties.
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                                        • justFred
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                                          • Mar 2007
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                                          #21
                                          invent the internet 10 years later or be born 10 years earlier, so I could get in on the ground floor.
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                                          • Violetta
                                            Affiliate
                                            • Jul 2004
                                            • 28735

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                            No more then 5 picture, 1x 10 second video as teasers
                                            that would make this biz a lovely place to be. Now, we are going in the opposite direction!
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                                            • darkmediak07
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                                              • Aug 2007
                                              • 36

                                              #23
                                              Limit the amount of free content in the name of promotion. I know webmasters want the exposure to get the hits, but it's just getting crazy. Today any knowleagable surfer knows that they don't need to pay anything to see porn.

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                                              • prezzz
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                                                • Jul 2004
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                No more then 5 picture, 1x 10 second video as teasers
                                                What he said.
                                                Pretty much TGP2 as a standard.

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                                                • Scootermuze
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by StuartD
                                                  Self regulation / enforcement where we would have better control of scum.... where people can't scam thousands, disappear and return with a fake nick to do it all over again.
                                                  This includes CP and other blatantly illegal activities done in the name of porn.
                                                  Not to worry.. In that the industry has no clue as to how to self-regulate, the gov't. will be forced to finally dive in and succeed at getting laws passed that will pretty well kill it for U.S. webmasters..

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                                                  • quesadilla
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                                                    #26
                                                    i like smoking dope.

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                                                    • seeric
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                                                      • Aug 2004
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                                                      #27
                                                      you can't regulate renegades. any nitwit with 500 bucks goes to best buy and becomes a "webmaster"

                                                      a large percentage of people here making problems for programs and those that bust their ass day in and day out to turn a good product don't even do a sale a year, or one ever for that matter. you make a nick, smack a few big name posters around, don't have to prove who you are, and suddenly you're a someone who matters. we've seen several examples of this lately.

                                                      thats why i give not two cents even of credibility to anything read on gfy or the internet for that matter. too many self declared pinnacles of nothing.

                                                      for the month.

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                                                      • snaker
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                                                        • Mar 2005
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                                                        #28
                                                        Bump for a great thread!
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                                                        • Enemator
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                                                          • Mar 2007
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by StuartD
                                                          Self regulation / enforcement where we would have better control of scum.... where people can't scam thousands, disappear and return with a fake nick to do it all over again.
                                                          This includes CP and other blatantly illegal activities done in the name of porn.
                                                          I guess you didn't understand the question...
                                                          I live in your nightmares. I make you dream you're getting bumfucked by a razor blade only to wake up and find I gave your wife an enema and tube-fed you her shit.

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                                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                            • Mar 2003
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                                                            #30
                                                            Why do you ask stupid fucking questions all the time?

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                                                            • CarlosTheGaucho
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                              thats why i give not two cents even of credibility to anything read on gfy or the internet for that matter. too many self declared pinnacles of nothing.

                                                              for the month.
                                                              Yeah - virtual existence is a virtual existence and you can play with it. Unfortunately, it's not always amusing.

                                                              I have actually met a couple of people who are MASSIVE in the online contact but almost pathetic in a personal contact / some of them even refuse the real life contact - worse are those who hide deliberately.

                                                              In my theory you are hidden behind your online identity either because you are:

                                                              a) keyboard impotent - you are not self confident in personal contact and real life so you have your online alter ego that is everything you always wanted to be
                                                              b) scum - you deliberately create myths about yourself to trick someone into buying a scum product etc.

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                                                              • StuartD
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                                                                • Jul 2002
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Enemator
                                                                I guess you didn't understand the question...
                                                                Sure I did. Did you not understand the answer?
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                                                                • thonglife
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                  • 1566

                                                                  #33
                                                                  No internet for China. Their traffic is shit because porn is illegal and the traffic they do have is a bunch of hackers disrupting network operations... in a nutshell.

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                                                                  • GreyWolf
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Jun 2007
                                                                    • 2036

                                                                    #34
                                                                    The online industry screwed itself 20 times more than offline.

                                                                    This may be attributable to the ease of buying a computer and learning 20 html tags. Seriously don't consider people to be in the "adult industry" simply because they bought a few domains, have a net connection and can write some html - they just clog the industry up with nonsense and will be gone and the next intake will start and fail...

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                                                                    • Vick!
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                      What would you change? Or is it fine the way it is?
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                                                                      • Brooke Anderson
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        To much free content.. Imagine a members area that didn't let you download. Had to log in to see the content. That would be nice for rebills.

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                                                                        • Mistah Charlie
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                                                                          • Nov 2007
                                                                          • 478

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Really???

                                                                          Originally posted by Hank_Heartland
                                                                          Fixin it is my plan

                                                                          The big money in adult is in high quality crossover sites that are naughty but nice and appeal to a general audience like ms and ggw. That's where the big money is in adult and will always be.

                                                                          Although hardcore is a big niche...it will never appeal to the general public or be mainstream.

                                                                          The ggw's with quality and class that can tease will rule and crossover to the masses...

                                                                          Gagging and degrading women never will

                                                                          Been saying it for years!
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                                                                          • V_RocKs
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                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                            • 32466

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I would change nothing. I love a free market economy.

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                                                                            • JuiceMonkey
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                                                                              • Oct 2004
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              retarded inflation based on over funded affiliate programs
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                                                                              • polish_aristocrat
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                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                • 40377

                                                                                #40
                                                                                obviously i'd eliminate 99% of the free porn
                                                                                I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                • Enemator
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                                                                                  • Mar 2007
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                                  Sure I did. Did you not understand the answer?
                                                                                  What you are saying basically means changing the whole INTERNET as a whole, not just online adult marketing. Which was the question.
                                                                                  I live in your nightmares. I make you dream you're getting bumfucked by a razor blade only to wake up and find I gave your wife an enema and tube-fed you her shit.

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                                                                                  • Enemator
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                    obviously i'd eliminate 99% of the free porn
                                                                                    I live in your nightmares. I make you dream you're getting bumfucked by a razor blade only to wake up and find I gave your wife an enema and tube-fed you her shit.

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                                                                                    • Mike Semen
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                                                                                      • Dec 2001
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                                      No more then 5 picture, 1x 10 second video as teasers
                                                                                      Yup that about sums it up.
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                                                                                      • StuartD
                                                                                        Sofa King Band
                                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                                        • 29903

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Enemator
                                                                                        What you are saying basically means changing the whole INTERNET as a whole, not just online adult marketing. Which was the question.
                                                                                        That doesn't make any sense.
                                                                                        Airlines, automakers, hollywood, realtors.... hell, just about every industry has regulations that they must abide to. They have sites online and yet are able to be regulated without changing the whole internet.

                                                                                        Think about it.
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                                                                                        • Enemator
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                                          That doesn't make any sense.
                                                                                          Airlines, automakers, hollywood, realtors.... hell, just about every industry has regulations that they must abide to. They have sites online and yet are able to be regulated without changing the whole internet.

                                                                                          Think about it.
                                                                                          You were talking about scum/scammers.

                                                                                          Airlines don't work with affiliate software. They use CC's so there is a possibility: phising sites. Same goes for online banking. Loads of people get fished and fucked.

                                                                                          Who buys a 30k car online with a stolen CC?
                                                                                          No wait...who would ACCEPT 30k online via just a CC and then ship out the card?

                                                                                          There's virtually no way to have ONLINE MARKETING in the ADULT industry that can ward off scammers UNLESS you change the internet on a basic level.

                                                                                          Scammers thrive in this business because of the small amounts per transaction and the fact that the whole business relies on affiliate software AND credit cards.




                                                                                          So...to come back to the original question: if you could reinvent the ONLINE ADULT MARKETING INDUSTRY(so, the way you advertise and get sales!).

                                                                                          Your answer came down to changing the basics of the internet(which is really the only way to get rid of scammers, I agree.). Which wasn't the question.

                                                                                          But it's fair to say that you'd have to reinvent the whole bunch with the current internet basics as in, IP's, TCP/IP protocol etc etc.

                                                                                          Inherently to that, it's vulnerable to scammers.

                                                                                          So the question: how would you reinvent the adult online marketing(again: adult, not aviation, realtors or whatever) based on the current, flawed technology.


                                                                                          I guess this post doesn't make my point any clearer
                                                                                          I live in your nightmares. I make you dream you're getting bumfucked by a razor blade only to wake up and find I gave your wife an enema and tube-fed you her shit.

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                                                                                          • Iron Fist
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Dec 2006
                                                                                            • 23400

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Brooke Anderson
                                                                                            To much free content.. Imagine a members area that didn't let you download. Had to log in to see the content. That would be nice for rebills.
                                                                                            I know there's software that gets close to that...changes the domain name every time you log in.. you can't use downloaders to get the content.. has to be one by one... so if you've got a few thousand pics and hundreds of videos, it makes it hard for the surfer to download your whole members area in an hour.

                                                                                            DRM and a custom viewer sounds like the ONLY way to make it work...can't see surfers trusting that solution in porn.. we all know what an extra EXE download does to trust...
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                                                                                            • StuartD
                                                                                              Sofa King Band
                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                              • 29903

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Enemator
                                                                                              There's virtually no way to have ONLINE MARKETING in the ADULT industry that can ward off scammers UNLESS you change the internet on a basic level.
                                                                                              If you say so.
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