The "Youtube" style site...Pandora's Box [vote inside]

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • pr0
    rockin tha trailerpark
    • May 2001
    • 23088

    #1

    The "Youtube" style site...Pandora's Box [vote inside]

    It would seem to me that there is 0 recourse at this point to prevent them from spiraling out of hand. In the past with tgp's etc. (even ones using stolen content) there was little fear. We always had the video membership model, which was so bandwidth intensive, no one could touch it.

    #1 - Now there are a whole slew of cheap b/w providers.

    #2 - hundreds of free video hosting sites, hosting up to 1000mb of video for free

    #3 - sites like youporn etc. have sky rocketing traffic (off the charts) seeing growth uncommon to any other type of site on the net

    So you have a rising demand for video, a lowering cost of bandwidth, & the ability to grab a top 200 alexa market share within a few months.

    It seems to me we're in the middle of a perfect storm & no one will have the ability to slow it down.

    What is your opinion?
    31
    We're fucked
    0%
    5
    I will attempt to adapt to the new advertisement based business model
    0%
    12
    It won't matter once DCMA's start getting domains killed every 3 days...
    0%
    6
    It won't matter once no one can finance it without ending up on the news....
    0%
    1
    I see a long 5-10 year lifespan for tube sites before any major drama....
    0%
    7

    The poll is expired.

    __________
    Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)
  • dissipate
    The Dirty Frenchman
    • Nov 2005
    • 8904

    #2
    The interwebz is serious business.

    Comment

    • BradM
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2003
      • 3397

      #3
      Shit changes. Adapt.

      Comment

      • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
        MOBILE PORN: IMOBILEPORN
        • Jan 2004
        • 16502

        #4
        Originally posted by BradM
        Shit changes. Adapt.
        amen brotha

        Comment

        • Gasper

          #5
          Webcams, dating, mainstream

          Comment

          • TurboAngel
            H.B.I.C.
            • Jun 2003
            • 30122

            #6
            You fuck up!

            ;)

            Comment

            • pr0
              rockin tha trailerpark
              • May 2001
              • 23088

              #7
              Originally posted by Gasper
              Webcams, dating, mainstream
              I've been in dating for 5 years now
              __________
              Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

              Comment

              • Gasper

                #8
                Originally posted by pr0
                I've been in dating for 5 years now
                you should try doing webcam shows

                Comment

                • mike-al
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 691

                  #9
                  Name one of those sites that have a profitable bottom line... All I ever hear is they have no clue and want idea's on how to convert the traffic into cash...

                  Who's gonna buy something there, when there's 1000 other long length clips to view for free. With that in mind, any advertising sponsorships will dry up
                  quickly and they realize there is value there.

                  Eventually the supplied content will also saturate and dry up as the current branding being done by it, will be diluted to the point of wasted time.

                  VOD sites will buy them up eventually and redirect the traffic.. If thats the goal, then best of luck because I don't see them paying much for site that will be dismantled.

                  So in my eyes it's a fad, that has to be waited out...

                  If stolen content is your only concern of harm to the industry, well that's up to your business to deal with and learn how to handle.
                  Delete this account, i am done here

                  Comment

                  • JD
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 22651

                    #10
                    imo... it's a temporary problem. it'll dry up sooner or later

                    Comment

                    • WiredGuy
                      Pounding Googlebot
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 34515

                      #11
                      Market conditions are changing, whether or not it keeps going is unclear, but the strong adapt, the weak will die off.
                      WG
                      I play with Google.

                      Comment

                      • Antonio
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 14136

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mike-al
                        Name one of those sites that have a profitable bottom line... All I ever hear is they have no clue and want idea's on how to convert the traffic into cash...

                        doesn't matter if they make a profit or not, they want to take a HUGE bite of the porn traffic and they will (once they get there they might or might not figure out a way to monetize the traffic) which basically means that conversion ratios of 1:3000 are already common as far as "normal" porn membership sites are concerned and they are getting worse by the minute

                        on personal level I'm switching to datintg and cams (mainstream in the very near future), I'll also launch a tube site or two (with ONLY legal videos provided by sponsors) as soon as I find a good script, tried the one sortie offers here which looked good at first but it turned out I'll have to spend 5 hours importing the videos

                        Comment

                        • pr0
                          rockin tha trailerpark
                          • May 2001
                          • 23088

                          #13
                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                          Market conditions are changing, whether or not it keeps going is unclear, but the strong adapt, the weak will die off.
                          WG
                          WG has spoken
                          __________
                          Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

                          Comment

                          • SiMpLe
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 3221

                            #14
                            Originally posted by WiredGuy
                            Market conditions are changing, whether or not it keeps going is unclear, but the strong adapt, the weak will die off.
                            WG
                            That was beautiful and brought a tear to my eye. Cyber??
                            Sean Holland
                            Vice President
                            OrbitalPay / Global Electronic Technology (GET)
                            SKYPE: iam.sean ::: sholland at orbitalpay.com
                            888-775-1500

                            Comment

                            • dynastoned
                              mmm yeah!
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 5061

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Gasper
                              Webcams, dating, mainstream
                              bingo!

                              Comment

                              • tony299
                                lurker
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 57021

                                #16
                                Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                Market conditions are changing, whether or not it keeps going is unclear, but the strong adapt, the weak will die off.
                                WG
                                Using stolen content to put eyes in front ads is not, a new business plan or market condition.Its fucking theft, it will catch up with them, with the BT their call of innocence was we dont know what surfers are trading we dont host the content but now they are hosting it and thats a big no no. Patience my children the winds of change are gathering momentum and there will be alot of unhappy tube operators.

                                Comment

                                • NTSS
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2005
                                  • 5688

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by mike-al
                                  Name one of those sites that have a profitable bottom line... All I ever hear is they have no clue and want idea's on how to convert the traffic into cash...

                                  Who's gonna buy something there, when there's 1000 other long length clips to view for free. With that in mind, any advertising sponsorships will dry up
                                  quickly and they realize there is value there.

                                  Eventually the supplied content will also saturate and dry up as the current branding being done by it, will be diluted to the point of wasted time.

                                  VOD sites will buy them up eventually and redirect the traffic.. If thats the goal, then best of luck because I don't see them paying much for site that will be dismantled.

                                  So in my eyes it's a fad, that has to be waited out...

                                  If stolen content is your only concern of harm to the industry, well that's up to your business to deal with and learn how to handle.

                                  Makes sense to me.
                                  ICQ: 150-803-430
                                  Email: marketing7(at)cox(dot)net

                                  Comment

                                  • farkedup
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2007
                                    • 2490

                                    #18
                                    Actually video sites are the future... Text type ads are going to transition towards TV style ads before a certain ratio of video loads. The software is already there... Only thing needed is for the advertisers to get in there and fill ad inventory! Think about it like this.... For adult content you can have a quick clip of some naked girl and show her whole body and get her looking very seductive and have her say the domain name.... As long as your domain is pronounceable BOOM you have peoples attention!

                                    I am coding a script for this market and working my ass off trying to get it powerful, user friendly AND capable of holding up to the kind of traffic adult sites get.

                                    I used to be able to whack off to pictures but it just doesn't work for me anymore! I can only get it off from video....
                                    -- QUOTE ME IT MAKES ME FEEL SPECIAL --

                                    Comment

                                    • hungry hungry hippy
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2007
                                      • 249

                                      #19
                                      you don't use skype very often pr0 huh?

                                      Comment

                                      • pr0
                                        rockin tha trailerpark
                                        • May 2001
                                        • 23088

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by hungry hungry hippy
                                        you don't use skype very often pr0 huh?
                                        alrighty then
                                        __________
                                        Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

                                        Comment

                                        • sortie
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2007
                                          • 7771

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Antonio
                                          I'll also launch a tube site or two (with ONLY legal videos provided by sponsors) as soon as I find a good script, tried the one sortie offers here which looked good at first but it turned out I'll have to spend 5 hours importing the videos
                                          Maybe you chose the wrong method or didn't understand something.

                                          It only takes 15 minutes to import the first 3000 flash videos.

                                          Some people go to the import section for a sponsor and then select one site at a time. Don't do that. Select all the straight sites, or all the gay sites, or all the teen sites etc... then click one time and wait 5 minutes then move to the next sponsor.


                                          Then dump in gallery links at 200 galleries at a time and click "pull content" and in about 15 minutes you got another 800 or so videos.

                                          The installation instructions show the fastest way to build a site, but the script allows many options to do it slower for picky webmasters.
                                          Anyone who followed the installation instuctions and had no server issues had their site up and running with videos in less than 1 hour.

                                          Comment

                                          • Zorgman
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 6103

                                            #22
                                            Antonio, hit me up on icq 1974247
                                            I might have a solution for you.
                                            ---

                                            Comment

                                            • justFred
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2007
                                              • 922

                                              #23
                                              personally, I prefer pictures. Don't know why but I love to masturbate to slide shows rather than movies. I like random. I use thumbs plus: go to 26gb "image only" porn folder, show child folders (SUBDIRECTORIES, not cp- morons), whack it to several thousand photos shown at random. If I get bored with whacking to 10's of thousands of high-quality images, I call my GF and I fuck her! Simple stuffs.

                                              Tube sites suck up a lot of porn traffic, but with all the webmasters switching to tube sites and the like, I have a bit more room to stretch my legs. And if I end up being the only guy that likes pictures after a year or so, I'll bite the bullet and buy a high bandwidth dedicated server, and go for broke.
                                              Vote Bill Cosby 2012

                                              Comment

                                              • justFred
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2007
                                                • 922

                                                #24
                                                an example:
                                                http://myfilestash.com/userfiles/shashe42/sqrt.html
                                                Vote Bill Cosby 2012

                                                Comment

                                                • L-Pink
                                                  working on my tan
                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                  • 39151

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by justFred
                                                  Sorry, no wood here.

                                                  Comment

                                                  • WarChild
                                                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                    • 17263

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                                    Using stolen content to put eyes in front ads is not, a new business plan or market condition.Its fucking theft, it will catch up with them, with the BT their call of innocence was we dont know what surfers are trading we dont host the content but now they are hosting it and thats a big no no. Patience my children the winds of change are gathering momentum and there will be alot of unhappy tube operators.
                                                    Someone says tube and you immediately jump to the conclusion that it can only mean stolen content.

                                                    The more I read of your posts, the more I think you're a real small fish in adult sales.
                                                    .

                                                    Comment

                                                    • justFred
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2007
                                                      • 922

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                      Sorry, no wood here.
                                                      then might I direct you to http://cumcow.com/ and possibly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erectile_dysfunction ?

                                                      GOOD LUCK!
                                                      Vote Bill Cosby 2012

                                                      Comment

                                                      Working...